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XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 04:36 AM
Has anyone started an A-20 whiners' club yet? If not I'd like to put in a good word for the old Douglas A-20 Havoc/Boston bomber.

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~bnagy/houstonApr2002Pics/A20.jpg

According to Carl Pettypiece's aviation history website,
The Soviet Union was actually the single largest user of the DB-7/A-20 series, receiving nearly half the total production. The USA reserved no less than 3125 DB-7Bs, DB-73s, DB-7Cs, A-20Bs, A-20Cs, A-20Gs, A-20Hs, and A-20Ks for delivery to the USSR under Lend-Lease. 2901 of these were actually delivered. In addition, substantial numbers of RAF Bostons were diverted to the Soviet Union. Many of the Soviet A-20s were ferried by air to Russia via Iran or Alaska rather than sending them via sea, where a number had been lost aboard ships to German U-boats.

Some of the Soviet A-20s had their rear gun positions replaced by a spherical-shaped Russian-built turret containing a single 12.7-mm Beresin BS machine gun. Soviet A-20s were used in just about every conceivable role, ranging from tactical support of armored units, to low-level strafers, to torpedo bombers. Unfortunately, little is known in the West about the service of Soviet A-20s. When the war ended, they were rapidly phased out of service.

XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 04:36 AM
Has anyone started an A-20 whiners' club yet? If not I'd like to put in a good word for the old Douglas A-20 Havoc/Boston bomber.

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~bnagy/houstonApr2002Pics/A20.jpg

According to Carl Pettypiece's aviation history website,
The Soviet Union was actually the single largest user of the DB-7/A-20 series, receiving nearly half the total production. The USA reserved no less than 3125 DB-7Bs, DB-73s, DB-7Cs, A-20Bs, A-20Cs, A-20Gs, A-20Hs, and A-20Ks for delivery to the USSR under Lend-Lease. 2901 of these were actually delivered. In addition, substantial numbers of RAF Bostons were diverted to the Soviet Union. Many of the Soviet A-20s were ferried by air to Russia via Iran or Alaska rather than sending them via sea, where a number had been lost aboard ships to German U-boats.

Some of the Soviet A-20s had their rear gun positions replaced by a spherical-shaped Russian-built turret containing a single 12.7-mm Beresin BS machine gun. Soviet A-20s were used in just about every conceivable role, ranging from tactical support of armored units, to low-level strafers, to torpedo bombers. Unfortunately, little is known in the West about the service of Soviet A-20s. When the war ended, they were rapidly phased out of service.

XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 04:46 AM
hey yeah, I'm with ya on this one Baloban, I remember reading about the Russain having thousands of A-20's I'll join the A-20 Whiners club if your gonna start it, I want this cool 2 engine multi purpose aircraft in FB

262.......ummmmm no.... wait.....

A-20 is forever!!

MD_FuryFighter

XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 05:09 AM
There was one already submitted to Oleg I think...

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/klv_ubisig1a.jpg

XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 05:11 AM
I don't think it's been submitted yet. The modeller is currently doing the cockpit...

(Yes,it'll be FLYABLE! Sweet!)

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XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 06:24 AM
The last progress shot I saw was from the first week of August:

http://www.raf27.hpg.ig.com.br/A-20/cockpitWIP-4.jpg


Also, if you're interested in the Havoc in Soviet use, check out this site:

http://www.bellabs.ru/51/index.html

(look at the link paths on the site to get around)

--AKD

http://www.flyingpug.com/pugline2.jpg

XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 06:48 AM
Here's a brand new shot by Rafael(the guy doing the A-20).

This is the right part of the cockpit:

http://www.netwings.org/forum/gallery/Rafael_/cockpitWIP-5.jpg


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XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 06:48 AM
Oooh, a cockpit is even in the works, that's great! Thanks for the link too. Russian is no problem here /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Member of A-20 Havoc whiners. Over two thousand nine hundred A-20s delivered to the USSR, be sure!

XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 09:06 AM
Here are some external pics of the A-20C "Boston III"version,by Rafael,as of 7/26/03:

http://www.raf27.hpg.ig.com.br/imgsite/039.jpg



http://www.raf27.hpg.ig.com.br/imgsite/041.jpg



http://www.raf27.hpg.ig.com.br/imgsite/043.jpg



http://www.raf27.hpg.ig.com.br/imgsite/040.jpg


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XyZspineZyX
09-14-2003, 09:58 AM
Baloban wrote:
- Unfortunately, little
- is known in the West about the service of Soviet
- A-20s. When the war ended, they were rapidly phased
- out of service.

I don't know if something has ever been written in English about it but there were a pair of long articles (more or less 30 pages) in two french magazines (AĆ©ro-journal and Avions) in the past few months.

There was also a russian book on the subject last year.

In all these, the authors said the A-20 Boston (as the soviets called it) was mainly used as a tactical bomber, a recon airplane, and a naval attack (with torpedos, mines, and bombs)one rather than for CAS (for which they found it too lightly armored).

It's also worth noting that A-20s were also used as tactical transports (with disarmed aircrafts) and night fighters (though only a handfull of kills were scored).