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jooo9
10-02-2005, 08:01 PM
I started a patrol was going around England. I went up to around Scapa Flow, back down to the bottom of Ireland and am now back up at Scapa Flow. The whole time there was 15 mps winds. For NINE DAYS. Most of my torps blow up before reaching the target(year is 1940) and I obviously can't use the deck gun. I can't see through the periscope 3/4 of the time. How, if at all possible, could I manage to destroy a ship in this wheather? Is there any way to make it so that week-long hurricanes appear less often?

jooo9
10-02-2005, 08:01 PM
I started a patrol was going around England. I went up to around Scapa Flow, back down to the bottom of Ireland and am now back up at Scapa Flow. The whole time there was 15 mps winds. For NINE DAYS. Most of my torps blow up before reaching the target(year is 1940) and I obviously can't use the deck gun. I can't see through the periscope 3/4 of the time. How, if at all possible, could I manage to destroy a ship in this wheather? Is there any way to make it so that week-long hurricanes appear less often?

Pr0metheus 1962
10-02-2005, 08:54 PM
15mps is about 30mph. It's not even gale force. The seas around England are often rough for weeks at a time. German U-boats often found themselves impotent due to long periods of foul weather.

V-MAN2404
10-03-2005, 06:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beeryus:
15mps is about 30mph. It's not even gale force. The seas around England are often rough for weeks at a time. German U-boats often found themselves impotent due to long periods of foul weather. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Weather is **** all the time in England 4 meter swells are generally the norm from september round to may.

paulhager
10-03-2005, 09:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jooo9:
I started a patrol was going around England. I went up to around Scapa Flow, back down to the bottom of Ireland and am now back up at Scapa Flow. The whole time there was 15 mps winds. For NINE DAYS. Most of my torps blow up before reaching the target(year is 1940) and I obviously can't use the deck gun. I can't see through the periscope 3/4 of the time. How, if at all possible, could I manage to destroy a ship in this wheather? Is there any way to make it so that week-long hurricanes appear less often? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I had 3 patrols in a row, early in my current career, in which the weather was excellent around the UK. Came at a good time because I was able to rack up a pretty good score by taking out a lone escort and then most of the convoy by a mix of torps and deckgun. I actually managed the vaunted 100K mission but I never applied for the sig graphic. That early good start allowed me to "medal" my RA and SO, which I think are the two most important crew in the game. Really helped out later on when regression to the mean led to runs of marginal/average weather where the deck gun can't be used.

Apropos of the deck gun, I think the game actually does a pretty good job of rendering it ineffective because most of the time I can't use it. Clear weather and winds 6 m/s or less is a fairly infrequent occurrence in my experience.

Gunnersman
10-03-2005, 10:04 AM
Bad weather for long periods of time is not unsual. Your pretty much screwed. You can still sink ships but it is not easy. I usually to wait it out or try to go somewhere else and get out of the storm. It depends on where I am and how much fuel I have.

froschman
10-03-2005, 11:07 AM
I have not seen wind speed higher than 15 m/s, so I think it is the maximum for the game. Has anyone seen more?

Also I have had unrealistic long bad weather spells. I did have two patrols in a row along the Norwegian coast in May - June 1940. It was the same bad weather for full TWO MONTHS!

Froschman

V-MAN2404
10-04-2005, 01:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by froschman:
I have not seen wind speed higher than 15 m/s, so I think it is the maximum for the game. Has anyone seen more?

Also I have had unrealistic long bad weather spells. I did have two patrols in a row along the Norwegian coast in May - June 1940. It was the same bad weather for full TWO MONTHS!

Froschman </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dude that's not unrealistic have you ever been off the coast of Norway in real life?

Pr0metheus 1962
10-04-2005, 05:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by V-MAN2404:
Dude that's not unrealistic have you ever been off the coast of Norway in real life? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, really. Off the coasts of Norway and Britain, 15m/s is considered a mild breeze. If it gets much below that you're probably in the eye of a hurricane, LOL.

froschman
10-04-2005, 05:19 AM
Yes, I also have the opinion that 15 m/s is not much, but have anyone seen more in SHIII? An Atlantic bad weather should have more!

But for two months of continously bad weather I think is too much. OK, I have not been to the Norwegian west coast, but since I live in Sweden I do see the weatherforecast for Scandinavia almost every day. Such a long bad weather spell is rare.

Froschman

KapYodan
10-04-2005, 11:48 AM
Most of my torps blow up before reaching the target(year is 1940)

The reason that your torps are pre-blowing is becasue you have them on Mag trigger. You have to set very deep or set to impact and set your depth correctly. When I figured that out, there was much less cursing in my house. (I fired 4 torps at a T3 and none of them made it there, the DD came after me and I went home with nothing)

rudewarrior
10-05-2005, 09:34 AM
15 m/s ~ 30 mi/hr.

This is barely a tropical storm.

Hurricanes, by definition, must have wind speeds of 75 mi/hr or more.

It would be funny to see this game model the tropical weather according to what happened in real life. It would be interesting to see what happens to your sub if you got caught in a hurricane while hunting off of Florida's coast.

Pr0metheus 1962
10-05-2005, 09:47 AM
Actually it's not even close to being a tropical storm. Here are the definitions:

Gale = 39 - 54 mph
Tropical Storm = 55 - 73 mph
Hurricane = 74+ mph

So the storms in the game (approx. 30mph) are below all of those. Personally I think the game shows the wrong wind speeds. I reckon, with the size of waves we get, we should be well into gale force for the highest storm settings.