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nsteense
11-13-2006, 01:23 AM
Ever wondered how to fly on one wing??

http://www.strangemilitary.com/content/item/110099.html

I sure as hell can't do it in IL2!
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nsteense
11-13-2006, 01:23 AM
Ever wondered how to fly on one wing??

http://www.strangemilitary.com/content/item/110099.html

I sure as hell can't do it in IL2!
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BillyTheKid_22
11-13-2006, 01:51 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif I am shocked!!!1<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Friendly_flyer
11-13-2006, 01:59 AM
Oh my!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Fly friendly!

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JG53Frankyboy
11-13-2006, 02:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
Oh my! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

actually the pictures with the flying "onewinged" Eagle are looking photoshoped http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
because the remains of the right wing that are visible on the pictures with the already landed Eagle are not visible there.............

Sergio_101
11-13-2006, 02:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
Oh my! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

actually the pictures with the flying "onewinged" Eagle are looking photoshoped http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
because the remains of the right wing that are visible on the pictures with the already landed Eagle are not visible there............. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Correct, they are altered for the History Channel
program. But the incident did happen.
It just displays the obvious. The F-15 is so Uber
it needs no wings!
Over 30 years old and still kicking butt world wide. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Esel1964
11-13-2006, 03:32 AM
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nsteense
11-13-2006, 03:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Correct, they are altered for the History Channel
program. But the incident did happen.
It just displays the obvious. The F-15 is so Uber
it needs no wings!
Over 30 years old and still kicking butt world wide. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Sergio </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sergio,
you're absolutely correct on the matter of the History Channel. I realized too late, after watching the topic on youtube, that a few of those shots in the article were ,to say at least, a bit 'staged'. It was pretty obvious when you saw the film... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

But then again the black and white pictures are definitely genuine!!!
Says also a lot of the coolness displayed by the pilot!!!
I think he also faced a reprimant, because he din't obey the instructions of the instructor to eject, but was more than well praised with the safe landing of multi million dollar plane http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
11-13-2006, 04:26 AM
Got the video from that collision from the guncam. I'll try to load that up or find it on youtube.

There was a documentary about that a few weeks ago in German TV. According to the pilot, he was convinced, he had to eject. When he tried to stabilize the jet in order to eject safely, he found he still had control over the aircraft. He had to land with above safe landing speed, but landed safely, with hydraulics barely working and one engine dead.

The above pictures are photoshoped, though.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

greets
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Capt.LoneRanger
11-13-2006, 04:28 AM
Aw, sorry, my mistake - This video is of a smiliar collision, but apparently this pilot bailed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPz9ZNFuhng<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

greets
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nsteense
11-13-2006, 04:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">.

The above pictures are photoshopped, though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Capt. Loneranger, once more, the photos discredit the otherwise very real and exciting event. I googled the terms 'F15 midair collision' and copied pretty much the first link I found with pictures in it.
I've read it some time ago, when strolling around the internet. I couldn't remember anymore where I first saw it. That's why I went straight for this link. Which was not the best thing to do, considering the critical participants on this forum http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Because I'm rather new to this forum, I really wanted to share some impressive stories and pictures.
Like these two pictures, which are sure for real!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
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Capt.LoneRanger
11-13-2006, 04:51 AM
That was no critic against you, but just to confirm it is photoshopped!

This is infact the most common picture of the accident and probably the only one, as I doubt there were many people running around or in a plane next to it, to take pictures. Infact, if History-Channel didn't find those pictures, yet has the official ones, I doubt there are any other pictures. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

greets
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Bremspropeller
11-13-2006, 04:56 AM
Funny thing is, the guy got degraded for not following his IP's order to eject. However, he was re-promoted to his original rank for RTBing safely http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Capt.LoneRanger
11-13-2006, 05:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Funny thing is, the guy got degraded for not following his IP's order to eject. However, he was re-promoted to his original rank for RTBing safely Veryhappy </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL - reminds me to ole Captain Kirk<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

greets
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Feathered_IV
11-13-2006, 05:17 AM
Bet the pilot was glad he didn't serve on carriers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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nsteense
11-13-2006, 05:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
That was no critic against you, but just to confirm it is photoshopped!
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No offence taken http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif!!

BTW, I have some other pictures from a collision between a HS126 a glider @16000ft, which happened last August. No casualties here, which is really exceptional, because the Japanese glider pilot was wearing a chute.

Now, if I knew how to upload pictures in this forum, I could share them. Help...!?

tigertalon
11-13-2006, 05:36 AM
If I'd have to pick a stance now, I wouldn't believe this story. At least I wouldn't believe that the plane in question is the one from pictures where ENTIRE wing from fuselage on is missing. Maybe it was 'mistakenly' switched with another plane, which lost smaller proportion of a wing?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

<span class="ev_code_BLACK"><pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">?In the size of the lie there is always contained a certain factor of credibility,

nsteense
11-13-2006, 05:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tigertalon:
If I'd have to pick a stance now, I wouldn't believe this story. At least I wouldn't believe that the plane in question is the one from pictures where ENTIRE wing from fuselage on is missing. Maybe it was 'mistakenly' switched with another plane, which lost smaller proportion of a wing? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Another non photoshopped picture of the airplane in this link for the non-believer.

http://www.uss-bennington.org/phz-nowing-f15.html

I've have to admit it, I was amazed as well when I first saw the picture.
And if you still don't believe it, look at youtube (f15 midair collision), where you can find the dramatized version of the real event taken from the history channel, where the 'one hell of a' pilot himself is recounting the story.

Capt.LoneRanger
11-13-2006, 06:18 AM
In WW2 the fuselage was the neccessary thing between the propellor, the wings and the tail and somewhere in between was the place for the pilot and maybe some guns and fuel.

In modern a/c the whole frame is designed to support the overall lift and performance. If you look at the Mig29, the SU33 or the F14 for example, it is perfectly clear, not only the wings, but the whole frame is designed and shaped to produce lift. Though it's not that visible with the F15 it's the same prinziple. You got to be faster for producing the same ammount of lift, but it is possible.


Ask raaaid, he knows why planes fly - IIRC it has to do something with atoms rotating so fast, they produce gravity or something http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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nsteense
11-13-2006, 06:54 AM
And you know that NASA even experimented in the 60's and 70's with lifting bodies which were pretty much the first hardware prove you could do without wings !!??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:LiftingBodies.jpg

JG4_Helofly
11-13-2006, 06:57 AM
Some times ago, I saw a picture of a fw 190 which managed to land with the half left wing cutted off.