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DayGlow
07-15-2005, 11:23 AM
http://gojackarmy.castpost.com/CG%20briefing%20sniper%20clip.wmv

probably a 7.62 strike. Would love to see the modelling of strike plates in the armour, but I imagine the MP crowd would start complaining if people took rounds without dying.

DayGlow
07-15-2005, 11:23 AM
http://gojackarmy.castpost.com/CG%20briefing%20sniper%20clip.wmv

probably a 7.62 strike. Would love to see the modelling of strike plates in the armour, but I imagine the MP crowd would start complaining if people took rounds without dying.

Squall_Rifleman
07-15-2005, 12:42 PM
What's the origin of the video, DayGlow? Can't figure out exactly what's going on in it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

jchung
07-15-2005, 12:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DayGlow:
http://gojackarmy.castpost.com/CG%20briefing%20sniper%20clip.wmv

probably a 7.62 strike. Would love to see the modelling of strike plates in the armour, but I imagine the MP crowd would start complaining if people took rounds without dying. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Head shots would still do nicely. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gifNot to mention a Lapua or a round from a 99-50.

BTW, nice clip, good find. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

BSR_Dude
07-15-2005, 01:03 PM
Sounds like a 7.62x54, probably a Dragunov considering where the footage was taken.

Some of the better armor like the Rangers wear (one of ours is a Ranger) can take 3 hits w/out the plate w/out penetration.

On a related note that strike had to hurt like a mutha.

AlphaDelta219
07-15-2005, 01:12 PM
3 hits from 7.62mm I'm guessing? If so I guess it could take a few more from a 5.56

Operative47
07-15-2005, 02:47 PM
The soldier in that vid was very lucky. I was also very impressed when he got up as fast as he did and found some cover. GJ Soldier & stay safe http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif.

DayGlow
07-15-2005, 03:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Squall_Rifleman:
What's the origin of the video, DayGlow? Can't figure out exactly what's going on in it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unfortunatly I do not know the story behind the video, I've seen it posted on another site. From viewing it, it seems to originate from a Iraqi insurgent filming them ambusing a US soldier. You can hear the man saying 'Allah Akbar' over and over again, which means 'God is great'. (I'm pretty sure the GI is thanking God as well though)

I wouldn't think the insurgants would release the video onto the net as it shows a failure on their part to take out the soldier, more likely it was found by the GIs after a skrimish and put on the net.

Either way it shows how well modern body armour does perform. I keep meaning to get a strike plate for my vest, this has really convinced me to hurry up with it.

apollo104
07-15-2005, 04:16 PM
Listen closely to the way the insurgent says Allah Akbar. If I did not know better, I'd say he's wanking. Props to the soldier for actually having the composure to raise his weapon to eye level as he got cover.

The video seems to be shot from close to the ground. Probably someone who is a good shot in an AK laying prone in a distant bush.

It takes a lot of nerve and bravery to do that. (Interpert that any way you like.)

DayGlow
07-15-2005, 04:27 PM
found the story:

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-976420.php

not only did they find the sniper, but the soldier that got shot treated the sniper, maybe saving his life. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Squall_Rifleman
07-15-2005, 04:28 PM
Roger... Thanks, DayGlow.

EDIT: Whoa, that's interesting. Medics are incridible, it's amazing how they'll try and save a life no matter who this life belongs to... But it's their job, after all, I guess.
Thanks again, man. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

EasyCo
07-15-2005, 05:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DayGlow:
found the story:

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-976420.php

not only did they find the sniper, but the soldier that got shot treated the sniper, maybe saving his life. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
This is an awesome story. Dont expect to see it on the news though...

AlphaDelta219
07-16-2005, 04:59 PM
Heh, I bet that sniper still hates the **** out of America.

yttocs1966
07-16-2005, 05:17 PM
thankfully hes alive but on the lighter side(joke) head shot, head shot, head shot, i always say.

DayGlow
07-16-2005, 05:50 PM
As an urban sniper a second shot can really give away your position. A head shot at 200+ yards is difficult, even with a scope. You really have about 4 inches of error either way of aimpoint and you miss your target. Center mass is a much larger target that doesn't move as much.

Alex_HS
07-16-2005, 06:12 PM
Fake? He got up and aimed his rifle real fast before moving to cover plus we cant tell what distance he was shot from, could be fake for all we know..
edit: was it 75 yards or 75 meters? Hard to believe he recovered so fast from the impact of a 7.62 from less than 100M in 2 seconds.
They say the silver van had a whole big enough for the sniper to make his shot but we can also see that the event was filmed from the same location the shot was fired, anyway if this is actually true im glad he survived.

DayGlow
07-16-2005, 07:10 PM
Level IV trauma plates have to take 6 strikes of up to 30-06 armour piercing rounds at 2850 fps without failing. The bullet strike is spread out over the whole plate. You would feel the punch of the round hitting you, but even him falling over was more of a physcological reaction than the round itself knocking him over.

http://www.bulletproofme.com/PHOTO%20pages/Rifle_Plates_Testing_PHOTOS.shtml

StrikerD
07-16-2005, 08:39 PM
wow dude, daz crazy...

Prozac360
07-17-2005, 09:42 PM
was not fake even seen a army review of the incident.

MufasaTX
07-19-2005, 04:44 PM
My Brother in Law works at a factory in AZ where they actually make some of the plates for boty armor among other things. The tests those things go through are to say the least extreme.

As for the medic, speaks tons about the professionalism of the American Soldier.

BSR_Dude
07-19-2005, 04:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fyredawg:
As for the medic, speaks tons about the professionalism of the American Soldier. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

w3rd

CDN_Angus
07-19-2005, 06:18 PM
The truest example of what Military Medic's are to be.

apollo104
07-19-2005, 06:23 PM
Agreed, that medic held his composure very well. If that was me, I would have squirmed on the ground screaming and/or drop my gun and run away into the hills.

Prozac360
07-19-2005, 07:00 PM
was not fake again....

http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/6429/bodyarmour6tc.jpg
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/643/bruise2wq.jpg

splinterfactor
07-22-2005, 07:01 PM
seems like we all know where the iraqis are shooting at now...the heart (in picture it looks like they aimed for the heart) of america...us soldiers should put more armor on their chest area after watching that vid lol...

Albericht
07-23-2005, 09:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">seems like we all know where the iraqis are shooting at now...the heart (in picture it looks like they aimed for the heart) of america...us soldiers should put more armor on their chest area after watching that vid lol... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
not exactly heart, I would say the chest, but obviously, the sharpshooter of the insurgeant, never touched a rifle in his life, how could he miss the head at a so short distancem even with a dragunov ! But yes, the body armour saved his life, the bullet, came inside a very vital area (even if it missed heart, it would shot the lung, wich would kill him by the blood loss).