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Chevy350
05-21-2009, 09:05 PM
i just found this video surfing the web, anyone know the story behind it?

i hope there was nobody in there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

http://www.micom.net/oops/P38%20crash.wmv

Chevy350
05-21-2009, 09:05 PM
i just found this video surfing the web, anyone know the story behind it?

i hope there was nobody in there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

http://www.micom.net/oops/P38%20crash.wmv

Freiwillige
05-21-2009, 10:23 PM
I think that was Jeff Ethells crash. His father flew P-38's in WWII and he had just started getting air time in one himself. The crash investigation concluded pilot error as the plane had ran out of fuel on the right side due to switching the wrong tank on causing the engine to stall on landing approach. The stall and spin is in the video. Sad thing is that his Father was there watching.

RIP J.E.

WTE_Galway
05-21-2009, 11:24 PM
As mentioned previously in these forums the p38 was particularly dangerous under asymmetric thrust as it has two critical engines (engines on a twin that rotate the prop outboard at the top are deemed "critical" as the torque produced exaggerates the tendency of the plane to roll rather than reducing it).

In an interview many years after the war Kelly explained they did this to make the p38 a more stable gun platform.

Waldo.Pepper
05-22-2009, 12:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think that was Jeff Ethells crash. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry, but no - that is not the Jeff Ethell crash. Jeff crashed in Tillamook Oregon. Here are the details of his crash - from here http://www.avweb.com/news/safety/183014-1.html

Probable Cause

Failure of the pilot to maintain minimum control speed (VMC), after loss of power in one engine, which resulted in a loss of aircraft control and collision with terrain. Related factors were: the pilot's improper fuel management and failure to change the fuel selector position before a fuel tank had emptied, which led to fuel starvation and loss of power in one engine; and the pilot's lack of familiarity with the aircraft, relative to single-engine minimum airspeeds.

The file posted was at Duxford, 14 July 1996: Decorated former RAF squadron leader and Britannia Airways pilot. Michael "Hoof" Proudfoot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHB-9V-VORU

danjama
05-22-2009, 11:00 AM
Yea Waldo is correct, it's at Duxford.

In fact i remember a lengthy thread about it a couple of years back, i'll try and find it.

I believe the cause was a failure of the power assisted aileron on one of the wings, and also a lack of altitude and incorrect attitude entering the roll, as you can clearly see in the video.

here ya go:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...283/m/2061027563/p/1 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/2061027563/p/1)

Sad crash.