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SeminoleX
02-16-2005, 08:32 AM

SeminoleX
02-16-2005, 08:32 AM
Ubisoft has released the following as pertains to their SH III release:

Ubisoft store wrote:

* Supported OS: Windowsâ® 2000/XP (only)
* Processor: Pentiumâ® III 1.4 GHz or AMD Athlonâ"ž˘ 1.4 GHz (Pentium 4 2.0 GHz or AMD Athlon 2.0 GHz recommended)
* RAM: 512 MB
* Video Card: 64 MB (128 MB recommended) DirectXâ® 9-compliant graphics card (see supported list*)
* Sound Card: DirectX 9-compliant PCI card
* DirectX Version: 9.0 (included on disc)
* DVD-ROM: 4X or better (DVD only)
* Hard Drive Space: 1.5 GB free


It seems to be the future of copy protection.

I was simply wondering how many currently have a DVD drive on their system.

I have one that's never been used...but it looks as if it might come in handy soon.

indylavi
02-16-2005, 08:36 AM
I think games on DVD will be a lot more common. After all a lot of games already have 4 or 5 CD installs. I currently don't have one as I've never had the need to. I bought a very expensive TV to watch DVD's on so I never bothered with one. I will get one for SH3 and other games coming out. I just never needed it and even though they are cheap I never bought one because it was something that I didn't have a need for

madsarmy
02-16-2005, 09:15 AM
When I built my rig I installed a DVD-ROM & a DVD-RW. Would have just had DVD-RW but FB does not like RWs much.
As it goes a DVD-ROM is probably one of the cheapest things to buy for a rig.

LuckyBoy1
02-16-2005, 09:28 AM
As much as everyone likes to complain about this, I think you will see more and more games require you use a non-RW drive. I've heard the argument that people won't buy the game in question if they need a different drive in order to use it. Yes, it will punish the honest player and not do much to stem the tide of pirating. However, this step is a whole lot less of a hassle than registering the product each and every time you want to play online like some do and is a step to insure that future serious game development takes place.

Hate to say it but quit your whining and spend the $25.00 including installation it would cost to have someone install a ROM drive.

Weather_Man
02-16-2005, 10:45 AM
Yup, gottit.

S 8
02-16-2005, 10:45 AM
I had one in my old P2 400mhz system as today

SeminoleX
02-16-2005, 11:02 AM
I'm not complaining. I'm just curious about how many who preordered SHIII and do not have a DVD drive yet will soon be howling .

I don't mind a workable copyright protection but I do think this requirement ought to have been pointed out more clearly.

I hate being blindsided with something like this, rather than fairly warned, and I'm pretty certain most do too.

The only reason this issue came to light was because gamers dug out the information. I don't recall it being mentioned in any of my Ubisoft newsletters.

LEXX_Luthor
02-16-2005, 11:04 AM
Best SiG, ever...
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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Never change it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Oleg, 1950-1970 jet sim please!

JG52Uther
02-16-2005, 11:12 AM
Current rig has DVD rom,and CDRW (luckily no problems with AEP/PF)The next rig will have DVD rom and DVD rw

steve_v
02-16-2005, 03:40 PM
Only have cd-rom and cd-rw. (Been that way for the last 3 years.) With a SATA hard drive, still have another IDE for two more optical drives. Will go with the flow in the future, DVD-ROM: 4X or better (DVD only) if needed.

Personally, as someone who spent hours playing SH Commanders Edition, would like to see an updated version for the Pacific.

Jasko76
02-16-2005, 04:07 PM
Of cozz... My PC is my entertainment center- not just for playing Sturmovik.

By the way, what should we call this game now? Il-2, Sturmovik, FB, AEP, PF, FB+AEP-PF? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Lucius_Esox
02-16-2005, 04:48 PM
I've got a DVD RW, does this mean I have to get another drive then as brought this one for HL2?
Hmm, I do see the long term sense in it though. Jeez that instalation and registration process for Steam, what a pain...

Longjocks
02-16-2005, 04:49 PM
I'm unaware of the whole copy protection thing, but I look at it simply as wise business sense as one DVD is simply cheaper to produce than multiple CDs. This includes packaging costs which would also be cheaper for just one disc.

But yes, I do own a DVD drive. I've had several DVD drives in various forms for a long time.

Maybe if PF came out on a DVD we'd have the mystical content known as "the third disc". BWAHAHA!

F0_Dark_P
02-16-2005, 05:27 PM
i just love when games comes on DVD, i hate installing games on 2+ cd's http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

and yes i have a DVD-RW player witch a bought for 220 USD expensive one i know but couldent be without it

horseback
02-16-2005, 06:05 PM
Got & installed a DVD in my computer as soon as I realized that my 17 inch Monitor provides better picture quality than my 25 inch TV, and my Audigy 2 soundcard and 5.1 speakers give me that theater experience...oh, hell, it just meant that I could watch the movies I wanted to see without the old lady carping about me hogging the TV all the time.

cheers

horseback

Cajun76
02-16-2005, 06:59 PM
Got a DVD +/- RW and DVD +/- ROM when I built my system about year and a half ago. Two Sony's, and they can read just about every format out there. I actually copared them to others, and counted how many formats (CD, CDR, VCD, DVD-R, etc,) and they seemed to have the most. A DVD ROM will easily replace a standard CD-ROM, no real reason not to, well worth the few extra bucks if you compare quality CD and DVD drives.

wayno7777
02-16-2005, 07:32 PM
Took my CD-ROM out and replaced it with a Lite-On combo drive, DVD-ROM CD-RW. On sale in December for $33.28. I installed the merged on the combo and stand alone on the CD-RW. No probs with either one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

FA_Kook
02-16-2005, 08:06 PM
Picked up a Plextor DVDRW 716A along with a CDRW. Hopefully that will take care of any issues arising from new protection. DVDHD will soon be the standard so be prepared to buy a new*er DVD drive.
As for protected content,there will always be people who can and will crack it. I'm all for protecting ones product but when a company tells me when, where, how and in what type of format I can play something I bought as a consumer then I tend to think twice.

ucanfly
02-16-2005, 08:35 PM
Have an old Toshiba DVD-ROM and an LG CD-RW drive. Funny thing is I can install PF using the DVD-ROM , but it will not launch the game except when I use the LG CD-RW. PF is the only game where I am forced to use the CD-RW drive to run the game.

Seems to be the opposite of what I expected.

JR_Greenhorn
02-16-2005, 08:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by F0_Dark_P:
i hate installing games on 2+ cd's http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Have any of you played Black Isle's Baldur's Gate? (RPG of the Year, 1998)

With its expansion, Baldur's Gate covered six CDs, and you had to routinely change CDs as you traveled back and forth to different areas in the game. Those were the days. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

For the record, I don't have a DVD ROM, nor do I have any plans to aquire one any time soon. It does, however, look like I'll have no choice but to have one in my next computer.

Oilburner_TAW
02-16-2005, 08:54 PM
DVD Drive, dual layer dvd +-rw drive, scsi cd-rw drive (external).

I don't think copy protection is bothered by the presence of a dvd burner, I believe it is the emulators such as alcohol 120% etc.. that raise a stink.

Bearcat99
02-17-2005, 08:04 AM
DVDRW/DVD ROM... it only makes sense to me. All the computers in my house have DVD ROMs for the ROM drives.... two have DVDRWs. and two have CDRWs.

SeminoleX
02-17-2005, 08:34 AM
I'm thinking that the main effect of this copy protection move....besides surprizing and disappointing a fair number of honest customers...will be to give the pirates a new project to keep them occupied..... for a few hours anyway. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Swivet
02-17-2005, 08:37 AM
No DVD player yet, tho i been thinking of getting one very soon so data backup wont be on 30+ regular cd's http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Prices are pretty cheap now but i dont understand the dual layer feature thingy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

carguy_
02-17-2005, 08:42 AM
Well a DVD is a one 3rd of a DVD/RW price.Wasted cash,better go for the RW.Unless the game is VERY good I won`t pay $30 to just be able to run it.

I have two slots.Does DVD/RW record and run common CDROMs too?

Eventually I will get it,don`t see a direct necessity at the moment.

madsarmy
02-17-2005, 08:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by carguy_:
I have two slots.Does DVD/RW record and run common CDROMs too? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah they do carguy.

icrash
02-17-2005, 08:57 AM
Yup, but only cause my buddy electrocuted my cd rom when working on my pc http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

73GIAP_Milan
02-17-2005, 09:00 AM
Got a DVDrom drive (and a normal cdrom AND a cdwriter)

because: frikkin DVDromdrive won't read ANYTHING i put into it, even DVD's are spit out again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Had the stupid thing replaced 3 times already and still it's not working..
It's a CREATIVE one, 12 speed DVDROM..

most useless thing i've ever bought for my comp.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

carguy_
02-17-2005, 09:03 AM
Thank you,madsarmy.

mortoma
02-17-2005, 11:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LuckyBoy1:
As much as everyone likes to complain about this, I think you will see more and more games require you use a non-RW drive. I've heard the argument that people won't buy the game in question if they need a different drive in order to use it. Yes, it will punish the honest player and not do much to stem the tide of pirating. However, this step is a whole lot less of a hassle than registering the product each and every time you want to play online like some do and is a step to insure that future serious game development takes place.

Hate to say it but quit your whining and spend the $25.00 including installation it would cost to have someone install a ROM drive. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Have someone install a ROM drive????? You mean you can't perform this simple task yourself??? Do you have to get out your alarm clock manual to set your alarm clock?? And besides, there is no drive on the market that is only 25 bucks dude. Who are you kidding??? And I disagree with your whole attitude. I refuse to buy anything extra, no matter cheap it is, just to play a game. It's a matter of principle or do you understand such?? If I evr get a game and it won't install due to DVDRW or CDRW restrictions, ( including Oleg's sims ) I will take it back and get my money back. People just have to fight back against UBisoft's poor choice of copy protection!! FIGHT!!! Don't give in to stupidity .

flyplenty
02-17-2005, 12:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 73GIAP_Milan:
Got a DVDrom drive (and a normal cdrom AND a cdwriter) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So do I. The CD-ROM is a leftover from my old (self-built) rig, it will only play music CDs now. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif I watch DVD movies on my PC too, the monitor is almost as large as my modest TV. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Otherwise the DVD-ROM hasn't proven very useful yet, there aren't many games that come out on DVD. That won't take long though, seeing as how many are on 2 or more CDs already.

FoolTrottel
02-17-2005, 01:42 PM
I've got a Sony DVD-RW Dual Layer (DRU-700A).
No problems using PF or FB Cd's.