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michapma
08-12-2003, 08:54 AM
Look for a post from me in which I say I had to insert text to get past the language filter. Same thing twice in the same message...

http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zbhdo


Oh that whacky language filter. How I do love spending my time with it. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-mad.gif

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><tr valign="middle" bgcolor="#3e463b"><td height="40" colspan="3" align="center">The ongoing IL-2 User's Guide project (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/)</a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#515e2f"><td width="40%">FB engine management:
Manifold Pressure sucks (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182081-1.html)
Those Marvelous Props (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182082-1.html)
Mixture Magic (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182084-1.html)
Putting It All Together (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182085-1.html)
Those Fire-Breathing Turbos (Part 1 of 6) (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182102-1.html)</td><td align="center">

‚ =69.GIAP=Chap‚

69.GIAP (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/giap/)</p></td><td width="40%" align="right" valign="top">Hardware:
Flight Simulation Performance Analyzed (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_062a.html)
Building a home-made throttle quadrant step by step (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zkavv)
Sound Can Be Hazardous for Games (http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html)</td></tr></table>

michapma
08-12-2003, 08:54 AM
Look for a post from me in which I say I had to insert text to get past the language filter. Same thing twice in the same message...

http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zbhdo


Oh that whacky language filter. How I do love spending my time with it. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-mad.gif

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><tr valign="middle" bgcolor="#3e463b"><td height="40" colspan="3" align="center">The ongoing IL-2 User's Guide project (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/)</a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#515e2f"><td width="40%">FB engine management:
Manifold Pressure sucks (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182081-1.html)
Those Marvelous Props (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182082-1.html)
Mixture Magic (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182084-1.html)
Putting It All Together (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182085-1.html)
Those Fire-Breathing Turbos (Part 1 of 6) (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182102-1.html)</td><td align="center">

‚ =69.GIAP=Chap‚

69.GIAP (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/giap/)</p></td><td width="40%" align="right" valign="top">Hardware:
Flight Simulation Performance Analyzed (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_062a.html)
Building a home-made throttle quadrant step by step (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zkavv)
Sound Can Be Hazardous for Games (http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html)</td></tr></table>

Tully__
08-12-2003, 10:38 AM
The language filter recognises spaces but ignores punctuation and line feeds. Hence "fish" at the end of one line followed by "itchy" at the start of the next will set off the language filter.

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Tully

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 10:50 AM
fish itchy?

True - it worked.

S!

M0NS



"Blow up the outside world"

http://www.flugwerk.de/images/01k.jpg
My garage!

Message Edited on 08/12/0309:50AM by M0NS

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 10:51 AM
So a space after fish should do it?

*Testin*

Fish
itchy

http://members.chello.se/ven/milton.jpg

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 10:52 AM
Fish itchy

Fish
itchy

http://members.chello.se/ven/milton.jpg

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 10:52 AM
fi****chy

http://members.chello.se/ven/milton.jpg

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 10:52 AM
Lol.

The famous polish pilot.

http://members.chello.se/ven/milton.jpg

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 10:55 AM
he

S!

M0NS



"Blow up the outside world"

http://www.flugwerk.de/images/01k.jpg
My garage!

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 10:55 AM
You mods haev inspired me. My new signature:


Fish itchy

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 11:00 AM
We are the meaning in your life
We're the inspiration
We bring feeling to your life
We're the inspiration

/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://members.chello.se/ven/milton.jpg

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 11:02 AM
It's a virus:
Virus Alert Notification

Win32.Poza



Alias: W32.Blaster.Worm (Symantec) ,
W32/Lovsan.worm (McAfee),
W32/Msblast.A (F-Secure),
Win32/Poza.Worm ,
WORM_MSBLAST.A (Trend)
Category: Win32
Type: Worm
Published Date: 8/11/2003
Last Modified: 8/11/2003

CHARACTERISTICS

Win32.Poza is a worm using the exploit described in MS03-026 to gain access to unpatched Windows installation. More information about the exploit can be found in our Vulnerabilities Library or at the Microsoft site here: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-026.asp

Method of Installation

It creates a mutex "BILLY" to avoid running multiple instances of itself, and creates a registry value to activate on Windows restart:

SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\wind ows auto update = "msblast.exe"

The worm runs a FTP service listening on port 69 waiting for exploited machine to connect.

Method of Distribution

It starts by scanning the entire subnet for open 135 ports, then moves on to scan randomly selected class B subnets (255.255.0.0) to start scanning. If an open 135 port is found, it uses the exploit mentioned above to gain entry and create a remote shell on the exploited machine. It then assumes the exploit succeeded and attempts to connect to port 4444 of the remote machine. If successfully connected, it instructs the remote machine to download MSBLAST.EXE (size: 6,176 bytes, UPX packed) from its FTP service using TFTP.EXE. It then sends an instruction to start MSBLAST.EXE on the remote machine.

Note: TFTP.EXE is an utility included by default in Windows installation of Windows 2000 and later versions.

The worm is capable of keeping live connections to 20 exploited machines simultaneously.

Payload

If the day of the month is 16 or later, or the month is between January and August, the worm creates a working thread to send random data to windowsupdate.com almost continuously. This effectively launches a Distributed Denial of Service attack against windowsupdate.com.

Additional Information

The worm body contains these strings:

I just want to say LOVE YOU SAN!!
billy gates why do you make this possible ? Stop making money and fix your software!!

CA has also received reports from several sources that this worm may be seen, associated with crashes of svchost.exe.

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 11:03 AM
Fish itchy



I didn't notice anything heppen. This woulnd't be some kind of joke playing on us inosecent noobs.


Hey help a confused noobe lol



Silent out...





Message Edited on 08/12/0310:08AM by VF_310thSilent

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 11:06 AM
HeY! I'm clean. This sore lip ain't contagious.

http://members.chello.se/ven/milton.jpg

michapma
08-12-2003, 12:12 PM
When Ven starts singing Chicago songs it's time to close the thread. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-wink.gif


Thanks Tully, though I knew what the problem is. Note I was able to find the "poopy" as you've so often described it. It's just that it's often time-consuming to track it down, since my brain doesn't filter things the same way.

For instance, I couldn't write "if you have 16-bit | chosen in your desktop settings" without the | inbetween "bit" and "chosen." I also would be able to write "16-bit | chowder" without having it out with the filter...

Anyone wanna put 16-bit chowder in their sig? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><tr valign="middle" bgcolor="#3e463b"><td height="40" colspan="3" align="center">The ongoing IL-2 User's Guide project (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/)</a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#515e2f"><td width="40%">FB engine management:
Manifold Pressure sucks (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182081-1.html)
Those Marvelous Props (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182082-1.html)
Mixture Magic (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182084-1.html)
Putting It All Together (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182085-1.html)
Those Fire-Breathing Turbos (Part 1 of 6) (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182102-1.html)</td><td align="center">

‚ =69.GIAP=Chap‚

69.GIAP (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/giap/)</p></td><td width="40%" align="right" valign="top">Hardware:
Flight Simulation Performance Analyzed (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_062a.html)
Building a home-made throttle quadrant step by step (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zkavv)
Sound Can Be Hazardous for Games (http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html)</td></tr></table>

michapma
08-12-2003, 12:13 PM
Well whaddya know, one time it doesn't work, another time it does.

If you have 16-bit chosen in your desktop settings.

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><tr valign="middle" bgcolor="#3e463b"><td height="40" colspan="3" align="center">The ongoing IL-2 User's Guide project (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/)</a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#515e2f"><td width="40%">FB engine management:
Manifold Pressure sucks (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182081-1.html)
Those Marvelous Props (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182082-1.html)
Mixture Magic (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182084-1.html)
Putting It All Together (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182085-1.html)
Those Fire-Breathing Turbos (Part 1 of 6) (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182102-1.html)</td><td align="center">

‚ =69.GIAP=Chap‚

69.GIAP (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/giap/)</p></td><td width="40%" align="right" valign="top">Hardware:
Flight Simulation Performance Analyzed (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_062a.html)
Building a home-made throttle quadrant step by step (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zkavv)
Sound Can Be Hazardous for Games (http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html)</td></tr></table>

michapma
08-12-2003, 12:15 PM
Maybe the problem comes if, rather than a space separating the words, they are wrapped at the point of potential poopy in the input field we all use when we type. Let's do an experiment.


I can write my abc's, I can sing 1, 2 and 3. Eat 16-bit chowder at Joe's!

Does it work?

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><tr valign="middle" bgcolor="#3e463b"><td height="40" colspan="3" align="center">The ongoing IL-2 User's Guide project (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/)</a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#515e2f"><td width="40%">FB engine management:
Manifold Pressure sucks (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182081-1.html)
Those Marvelous Props (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182082-1.html)
Mixture Magic (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182084-1.html)
Putting It All Together (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182085-1.html)
Those Fire-Breathing Turbos (Part 1 of 6) (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182102-1.html)</td><td align="center">

‚ =69.GIAP=Chap‚

69.GIAP (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/giap/)</p></td><td width="40%" align="right" valign="top">Hardware:
Flight Simulation Performance Analyzed (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_062a.html)
Building a home-made throttle quadrant step by step (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zkavv)
Sound Can Be Hazardous for Games (http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html)</td></tr></table>

michapma
08-12-2003, 12:16 PM
It worked. Well, I guess the language filter just has its mood swings. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-happy.gif

How stupid is that. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><tr valign="middle" bgcolor="#3e463b"><td height="40" colspan="3" align="center">The ongoing IL-2 User's Guide project (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/)</a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#515e2f"><td width="40%">FB engine management:
Manifold Pressure sucks (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182081-1.html)
Those Marvelous Props (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182082-1.html)
Mixture Magic (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182084-1.html)
Putting It All Together (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182085-1.html)
Those Fire-Breathing Turbos (Part 1 of 6) (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182102-1.html)</td><td align="center">

‚ =69.GIAP=Chap‚

69.GIAP (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/giap/)</p></td><td width="40%" align="right" valign="top">Hardware:
Flight Simulation Performance Analyzed (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_062a.html)
Building a home-made throttle quadrant step by step (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zkavv)
Sound Can Be Hazardous for Games (http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html)</td></tr></table>

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 12:16 PM
ven, ur sig is scary, is that you?

http://rumandmonkey.com/widgets/tests/giantrobot/bender.jpg
Which Colossal Death Robot Are You? (http://rumandmonkey.com/widgets/tests/giantrobot/)

michapma
08-12-2003, 12:17 PM
No, that's Ven's son in his sig.

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><tr valign="middle" bgcolor="#3e463b"><td height="40" colspan="3" align="center">The ongoing IL-2 User's Guide project (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/)</a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#515e2f"><td width="40%">FB engine management:
Manifold Pressure sucks (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182081-1.html)
Those Marvelous Props (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182082-1.html)
Mixture Magic (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182084-1.html)
Putting It All Together (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182085-1.html)
Those Fire-Breathing Turbos (Part 1 of 6) (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182102-1.html)</td><td align="center">

‚ =69.GIAP=Chap‚

69.GIAP (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/giap/)</p></td><td width="40%" align="right" valign="top">Hardware:
Flight Simulation Performance Analyzed (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_062a.html)
Building a home-made throttle quadrant step by step (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zkavv)
Sound Can Be Hazardous for Games (http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html)</td></tr></table>

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 12:25 PM
Please, it's Peter Cetera.

http://members.chello.se/ven/milton.jpg

michapma
08-12-2003, 12:29 PM
thanks to google i now know that it's not.


(mechanical breathing) Peter, I am your father. If you only you knew the power of the Dark Side....

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><tr valign="middle" bgcolor="#3e463b"><td height="40" colspan="3" align="center">The ongoing IL-2 User's Guide project (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/)</a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#515e2f"><td width="40%">FB engine management:
Manifold Pressure sucks (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182081-1.html)
Those Marvelous Props (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182082-1.html)
Mixture Magic (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182084-1.html)
Putting It All Together (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182085-1.html)
Those Fire-Breathing Turbos (Part 1 of 6) (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182102-1.html)</td><td align="center">

‚ =69.GIAP=Chap‚

69.GIAP (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/giap/)</p></td><td width="40%" align="right" valign="top">Hardware:
Flight Simulation Performance Analyzed (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_062a.html)
Building a home-made throttle quadrant step by step (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zkavv)
Sound Can Be Hazardous for Games (http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html)</td></tr></table>

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 12:33 PM
Hey Mike, Isn't it after 12 noon there?

On patch release day!





http://home.earthlink.net/~aclzkim1/_uimages/p47atm.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 12:54 PM
Thunderbolt56 wrote:
- Hey Mike, Isn't it after 12 noon there?
-
- On patch release day!
-
-

\
ssssshhhh...... knock on wood quickly, because i am going to blame you if it doesn't come.

Fish itchy

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 12:58 PM
actually it's 2 o' clock /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

'Fish Itchy'

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 01:08 PM
gosh its hot gosh its hot gosh its hot gosh its hot gosh its hot i wish i told i wish i told i wish i told i wish i told cash, its green cash, its green cash, its green . . . . Oh, Sh!t !!!! There! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://www.cherokee.org/Culture/images/proctorZeke.jpg
"My ancestors didn't come over in the Mayflower--they met the boat."


http://www.theinformationminister.com/press.php?ID=612345111

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 01:32 PM
And my social input in the thread:

The Fokker G.I pwnz j00 4ll! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

<center>
---------------------------------------
"Atleast I'll go down in style!"
http://www.elleemmeshop.com/model1/aero/re4341.jpg
</center>

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 02:15 PM
Vengeanze,


Love the pic. Milton rules. Need more!

michapma
08-12-2003, 02:22 PM
It's 3:19 in the pm, getting towards coffee break time. I'm not anxious about the patch, only concerned that the Ubi server will breakdown before I can get it downloaded.

I'll mirror it if I find doing that to be reasonable.

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><tr valign="middle" bgcolor="#3e463b"><td height="40" colspan="3" align="center">The ongoing IL-2 User's Guide project (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/)</a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#515e2f"><td width="40%">FB engine management:
Manifold Pressure sucks (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182081-1.html)
Those Marvelous Props (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182082-1.html)
Mixture Magic (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182084-1.html)
Putting It All Together (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182085-1.html)
Those Fire-Breathing Turbos (Part 1 of 6) (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182102-1.html)</td><td align="center">

‚ =69.GIAP=Chap‚

69.GIAP (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/giap/)</p></td><td width="40%" align="right" valign="top">Hardware:
Flight Simulation Performance Analyzed (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_062a.html)
Building a home-made throttle quadrant step by step (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zkavv)
Sound Can Be Hazardous for Games (http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html)</td></tr></table>

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 02:32 PM
michapma wrote:
- It's 3:19 in the pm, getting towards coffee break
- time. I'm not anxious about the patch, <u>only
- concerned that the Ubi server will breakdown before
- I can get it downloaded.</u>
-
- I'll mirror it if I find doing that to be
- reasonable.

Hmmm... My thoughts exactly!

BTW Where in the world are you Mike?

S! Simon.
<center>


<font color="#000000">It's my attitude not my aptitude that determines my altitude.</font>
http://extremeone.4t.com/images/sig.jpg

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 02:32 PM
(EDIT) Sorry duplicate post.

Message Edited on 08/12/0302:35PM by Extreme_One

michapma
08-12-2003, 02:52 PM
Zurich.

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><tr valign="middle" bgcolor="#3e463b"><td height="40" colspan="3" align="center">The ongoing IL-2 User's Guide project (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/)</a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#515e2f"><td width="40%">FB engine management:
Manifold Pressure sucks (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182081-1.html)
Those Marvelous Props (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182082-1.html)
Mixture Magic (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182084-1.html)
Putting It All Together (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182085-1.html)
Those Fire-Breathing Turbos (Part 1 of 6) (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182102-1.html)</td><td align="center">

‚ =69.GIAP=Chap‚

69.GIAP (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/giap/)</p></td><td width="40%" align="right" valign="top">Hardware:
Flight Simulation Performance Analyzed (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_062a.html)
Building a home-made throttle quadrant step by step (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zkavv)
Sound Can Be Hazardous for Games (http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html)</td></tr></table>

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 02:54 PM
Please excuse my ignorance, but what country is that in? Is it Switzerland?
Geography was never my strong point!

S! Simon.
<center>


<font color="#000000">It's my attitude not my aptitude that determines my altitude.</font>
http://extremeone.4t.com/images/sig.jpg

michapma
08-12-2003, 03:00 PM
Yup, Swissyland, same time zone as France, and you English chaps are an hour back.

How stupid is that? (Just staying on topic. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-wink.gif )

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><tr valign="middle" bgcolor="#3e463b"><td height="40" colspan="3" align="center">The ongoing IL-2 User's Guide project (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/)</a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#515e2f"><td width="40%">FB engine management:
Manifold Pressure sucks (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182081-1.html)
Those Marvelous Props (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182082-1.html)
Mixture Magic (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182084-1.html)
Putting It All Together (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182085-1.html)
Those Fire-Breathing Turbos (Part 1 of 6) (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182102-1.html)</td><td align="center">

‚ =69.GIAP=Chap‚

69.GIAP (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/giap/)</p></td><td width="40%" align="right" valign="top">Hardware:
Flight Simulation Performance Analyzed (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_062a.html)
Building a home-made throttle quadrant step by step (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zkavv)
Sound Can Be Hazardous for Games (http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html)</td></tr></table>

XyZspineZyX
08-12-2003, 03:03 PM
Ahem. Yes it is very stupid (also staying on topic/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif )

S! Simon.
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