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HerrNein
10-13-2018, 05:04 AM
So, you can call it a nerf, or whatever you want, but I genuinely think there is one real easy solution that can be utilized to turn Orochi from the king of toxicity into a hero who is genuinely interesting to both play as and play against.

Combo-locks, specifically only for Orochi for this idea. Basically, if Orochi does his spam light combo (as 90% of his players rely on doing) the orochi suddenly finds that specific combo locked until one of 2 things occurs; 10 seconds pass or they do another combo (or said combo is interrupted).

While yes, you could say it is a nerf, it's not really so much a nerf as it is smacking the spammers with a stick and actually making them take notes from the orochi players who play the hero right. It would add a new mechanic to Orochi that does not completely defang him, but would help reduce the sodium content of the game by also making orochis more visually appealing to fight as well.

SangLong524
10-13-2018, 05:08 AM
Combo lock? Wouldnt it open orochi to being ganked?
The fluidity of current combos allow orochi to face 3 opponents at once. Perhaps something else.

MarshalMoriarty
10-13-2018, 06:04 AM
My answer to Orochi is the same as ever - leave his light opener be but slow the non opener lights in his combos back to their old speeds. I'm fine with him being a lightning quick draw Iaujutsu guy, but having all his lights be that fast is just asking for people to spam it. Which they do.

UbiInsulin
10-13-2018, 07:18 PM
10 seconds can be a long time in a fight. People have suggested similar "cooldowns" for Conq's SB, though. I don't know if it's something the team wants to use.

I'll keep an eye on this thread. :)

HerrNein
10-13-2018, 08:42 PM
10 seconds can be a long time in a fight. People have suggested similar "cooldowns" for Conq's SB, though. I don't know if it's something the team wants to use.

I'll keep an eye on this thread. :)

True, 10 seconds is an extensive period of time in a fight. Granted, given how Orochi can be played (and played well from what I have seen) I mostly said 10 seconds on the basis of a default number that is removed if Orochi either pulls off another combo, or is pulling off a combo and is interrupted.

GayForShugoki
10-13-2018, 09:58 PM
How to fix Orochi in a few steps.

1. Remove his triple light combo.

2. Replace it with Heavy > Light > Light

3. Allow him to chain his lights from his heavy dash move that he can charge (I think it’s called Riptide Strike or Storm rush).

4. Done.

Soldier_of_Dawn
10-15-2018, 03:36 PM
My take on the Orochi can be found clicking on one of the following links. The feedback has been positive:

Orochi Balance Suggestions:
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1911423-Orochi-Balance-Suggestions

Orochi Tweak / Rework Suggestions (Reddit link)
https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/9653pv/orochi_tweak_rework_suggestions/

I-Nibbiru-I
10-15-2018, 03:49 PM
I'd love if Orochi had more soft-feint options and a slightly bigger stamina pool.
Maybe you'd be able to soft-feint into stormrush or zephyr slash from side heavies or at any point in your chained attacks.

I-Nibbiru-I
10-15-2018, 03:52 PM
My take on the Orochi can be found clicking on one of the following links. The feedback has been positive:

Orochi Balance Suggestions:
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1911423-Orochi-Balance-Suggestions

Orochi Tweak / Rework Suggestions (Reddit link)
https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/9653pv/orochi_tweak_rework_suggestions/

I'd very much love to see your suggestions make it into the game, it is everything I could ever want to come up with for Orochi.

UbiInsulin
10-15-2018, 07:07 PM
My take on the Orochi can be found clicking on one of the following links. The feedback has been positive:

Orochi Balance Suggestions:
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1911423-Orochi-Balance-Suggestions

Orochi Tweak / Rework Suggestions (Reddit link)
https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/9653pv/orochi_tweak_rework_suggestions/

Thanks for these! :)

CRIMS0NM0NKEY
10-15-2018, 07:34 PM
Would 10 sec cool down be circumvented by doing a zone? I hate orochi spam in console but I'm not a fan of nerfing. Next you will have people calling for the same thing for berserker and aramusha. Like ubi said I'd rather see other characters buffed. It is a good idea though I just don't know what the impact of its implementation would be.