View Full Version : Which sticks/throttles have mini mouse control? -nt

10-14-2003, 09:21 AM
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10-14-2003, 09:26 AM
Saitek X-45 and the Cougar do. . . there are probably others too.

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10-14-2003, 09:27 AM
that would be the X-45 , a non FF stick but great because of:
-hugee posibilities to program it
-as you've said , it has a mini mouse on the throttle although you can program any hat to behave like mouse.

Zayets out


10-14-2003, 09:28 AM
You beat me with 5 seconds!!!

Zayets out


10-14-2003, 02:20 PM
The problem with X45 is that it's breaking very easy. No quality at all /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

On the other hand Cougar is very expensive /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
Would you suggest any cheap online store to order it?

PS: Does Cougar have the mini mouse control on the rudder (as X45) too, or is it on the stick?

10-14-2003, 02:39 PM
The Cougar also has one.

It's better than the X45 because:

* It has way more buttons;
* It has a three-postion 'mode' switch which makes giving each button three functions tres easy (Mine almost all have four different functions);
* It's metal;
* You can plug rudder pedals straight into it and apply response curves to them as well;
* It's almost identical to the F16 HOTAS setup.

It's worse because:

* I don't think there's a more expensive stick out there. The next batch in Australia will be AUD$750. I don't remember how much they are in the US, but it's a huge amount of cash;
* For something that costly the support takes a really long time - and it's not like you'll write it off the same way you'd write off a $40 Logitech stick;
* Without modifying it, the springs are really really heavy.

With my most recent profile, I ran out of commands to assign to buttons and hat positions - I only use the keyboard for chat now. I also love the (with proper co-ordination, which I hope to develop someday) fact that I can switch to a gunner's seat, fly the plane using the stick (right hand), throttle (left hand) and rudder (feet), aim the gun (left thumb) and fire it (right index finger) all at the same time. Not to mention adjusting field of view, flap angle, prop pitch, mixture and trim as well.

Here's my current profile (I've got it printed out because I keep forgetting where the commands are):


I recommend it if a) you're stupidly rich; or b) you find (like I did) one for super cheap. If you're thinking of getting one go to http://cougar.frugalsworld.com/ and look at the stuff there. Don't get put off by all the negativity in the forums - it's a bit like here, by the tone of the FB forums sometimes you'd think that it was used in jails to punish people. Not a huge amount of positive comment in their forums, simply because people who are happy with it don't post there. Like me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Otherwise, go for the Saitek.


It's on the throttle. In the picture above, it's labelled "T1".

Message Edited on 10/14/0301:43PM by Z4K

10-14-2003, 02:45 PM
Zen_Fighter wrote:
- The problem with X45 is that it's breaking very
- easy. No quality at all

umm... even my little brother has not managed to break it yet. it is quality, you just have to keep cool and be gently with the throttle, which is, i must admit, not as study as the joystick, which is pretty good.

10-14-2003, 03:33 PM
Thanks Z4K for your amazing reply /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

The mini mouse is the T1 and you move it like a mouse and if you press it you get the mouse buttos. Right?

Thanks again!

10-14-2003, 05:59 PM
CH throttle also has a mini-mouse. Absolutley no quality problems there.

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10-14-2003, 06:59 PM
Z4K wrote:
- The Cougar also has one.
- It's better than the X45 because:
- * It has a three-postion 'mode' switch which makes
- giving each button three functions tres easy

Minor correction: X45 also has this.

10-14-2003, 08:19 PM
The CHProducts Pro Throttle has a mouse ministick.

It is completely programable and it can be used in conjunction with what ever stick you want.

The major drawback is, it has NO dial axis on it /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

The Mouse stick is not quite as smooth as the actual mouse, but it DOES work. I used this for a long time, until I went back to the mouse. Now I have a fancy multibutton button trackball with the throttle programed to the wheel. Works good in FB because FB tells you where you throttle position is.


Message Edited on 10/14/0302:21PM by BM357_TinMan

10-14-2003, 08:35 PM
Think TrackIR. Forget the mini mouse.

I used the mini mouse on my CH throttle for years. It sucks compared to TrackIR.


10-14-2003, 08:39 PM
no wonder you "buzz" all. lol

10-14-2003, 08:44 PM
Buzzing them and shooting them down are two different things../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif