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BSS_Goat
09-27-2007, 07:33 AM
http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/wwii/articles/invadingrussia.aspx

BSS_Goat
09-27-2007, 07:33 AM
http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/wwii/articles/invadingrussia.aspx

Bewolf
09-27-2007, 08:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BSS_Goat:
http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/wwii/articles/invadingrussia.aspx </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nothing new there, really, to all the ppl that ever took the time to investigate a bit more into the russian campaign, and far of the typical remarks of "Germany could never have won".

In fact ppl may thank the Serbs for winning the war in the first place. Their revolt against the serbian puppet regime and thus the delay of the german attack on russia may be the only reason why Europe is free nowadays. I personally am grateful.

BSS_Goat
09-27-2007, 08:14 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bewolf:
Nothing new there, really, to all the ppl that ever took the time to investigate a bit more into the russian campaign, and far of the typical remarks of "Germany could never have won". [QUOTE]



D@mn, I'm sorry........

Worf101
09-27-2007, 10:04 AM
Good read. Thanks. Like the other respondent, I figured the reason out myself but it's nice to hear someone else agree with me. I feel that Britain would've sued for peace had Russia been defeated. Then the question becomes. If Russia was defeated. Would Japan have attacked the U.S.?

I think not. The would now be able to get most if not all of the oil and steel from it's Axis Allies. I think Dec. 7 would've been called off and delayed until Germany decided America needed to be conquered. Then and only then would Japan have attacked. Something to think about though.

Da Worfster

Bewolf
09-27-2007, 10:17 AM
I do not really think America ever stood the risk of beeing conqured, the same way Europe would not had Britain not been avaiable. The logistics to mount an amphibious assault over a whole ocean without a foothold like the US had with Britain, on a whole other continent, with airpower only available by carriers, was just too much of what "any" nation was capable of back then. Espcially the Japanese lacked the ressources for such an undertaking. Besides, they never wanted to conquer the US anyways. In fact, all they wanted was to be left alone in Asia.

P.S. To add something to my first reply. I mentioned this before once, but Stalin sued for peace twice during Fall of 1941, the second time granting Hitler nearly everything outlined as goals for Barbarossa. Hitler refused.