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LEXX_Luthor
11-19-2005, 04:51 PM
Another WW1 sim...

WW1 Eastern Front ~> http://www.d-strict.com/ ... 1914 - 1921

First interview is up... "Sikorsky": To kill "IL-2". Its all in Russian but the website is BabelFish friendly and you can translate the working webiste into English at http://babelfish.altavista.com/ by using Translate a Web page

Sikorsky S-16 with cockpit. A Crapp plane sim!! YeeHAAAWWW http://www.ubisoft.de/smileys/3.gif They better be planning those big 4 engine Sikorsky bombers too. You can't have a WW1 Sikorsky Sim without the Morometz (sp?)

http://www.d-strict.com/files/screenshots/28.jpg
http://www.d-strict.com/files/screenshots/coc_test.jpg
http://www.d-strict.com/files/screenshots/lakes.jpg

Sikorsky S-16? I never heard of that before. I'm learning something new already!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

LEXX_Luthor
11-19-2005, 04:51 PM
Another WW1 sim...

WW1 Eastern Front ~> http://www.d-strict.com/ ... 1914 - 1921

First interview is up... "Sikorsky": To kill "IL-2". Its all in Russian but the website is BabelFish friendly and you can translate the working webiste into English at http://babelfish.altavista.com/ by using Translate a Web page

Sikorsky S-16 with cockpit. A Crapp plane sim!! YeeHAAAWWW http://www.ubisoft.de/smileys/3.gif They better be planning those big 4 engine Sikorsky bombers too. You can't have a WW1 Sikorsky Sim without the Morometz (sp?)

http://www.d-strict.com/files/screenshots/28.jpg
http://www.d-strict.com/files/screenshots/coc_test.jpg
http://www.d-strict.com/files/screenshots/lakes.jpg

Sikorsky S-16? I never heard of that before. I'm learning something new already!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Chuck_Older
11-19-2005, 05:15 PM
The sim is very promising. I'll make a decision on how good it is when I've played it

The interview has a really stoopid name though. They realise that Il2 is even older than FB, right? And that WWI wasn't fought in the '40s?

LEXX_Luthor
11-19-2005, 05:48 PM
Ya the Interview title makes no sense. But, its the only other "eastern front" sim of any kind so that could be a connection. Granted, WW1 EF has nothing to scale or compare(tm) with WW2 EF, except the Sikorsky bombers those would be a Hoot to sail.

major_setback
11-19-2005, 06:03 PM
Thanks, some of the planes look OK. They do fjords too!


http://www.d-strict.com/files/screenshots/render_06.jpg

http://www.d-strict.com/files/screenshots/water_new4.jpg

p1ngu666
11-19-2005, 06:40 PM
eastern front ww1, thats something i know very little about..

btw luthor, i watched a video on stalingrad earlier, had about the reconstruction too which was cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

had film taken from a po2 flying over the ruins, and it really was wrecked....
could see the shadow of the po2 on the remains of the city http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

LEXX_Luthor
11-19-2005, 06:47 PM
Po-2 (U-2) is almost like walking through the rubble!!!

S-16 is about the same performance I guess. Don't know much about it. Seems it had one synch machine gun. The 4 wheel drive is kinda neat, early WW1-esque. What I want most is Etrich or Rumpler Taube with the wing warping. That's gotta be the most beautiful plane and easy to fly of all time. Taube would make good flight sim Newbie Flyable trainer.

LEXX_Luthor
11-19-2005, 06:52 PM
~> http://www.flight-history.com/arch/showstory.php?contentID=63

Rumpler Taube

If today's fighting machines seem versatile compared to the cheaper hardware of 40 or so years ago, it's a full circle process. In aviation's early days, specialization didn't exist. If it could get into the air--precarious enough before the Great War--it was an airplane, and it might be called upon to do more or less anything, by more or less anyone. So while the Taube (literally: dove) may be called the first "fighter" to see combat, it is just as likely the first bomber and the first combat observation aircraft.

Awkward and fragile as it seems approaching the 21st Century, the Taube was a very graceful design for its day. It should not be compared with today's sleek machines, or even with later World War I fighters, but with the pioneer box-kite Curtiss and Wright biplanes, its true contemporaries.

Taube's first clash came in Libya in 1911, under Italian command. Two of the aircraft accompanied the mission against the Turks, and Lieutenant Guilio Favotti employed a broomhandle Mauser pistol and some two-kilogram bombs on raids that November.

Austrian designer Igo Etrich was inspired by the birds in this design, but based much of the design on a winged plant seed, Zanonia macrocarpa. Extensive rigging actually warped the wingtips to act as ailerons. The lines and pulleys demanded considerable leverage, and the aircraft was fitted with a steering wheel for mechanical advantage. The system required constant trimming, as the cables stretched under stress.

Fourteen companies built the Rumpler-owned design, including Albatros, Gotha, and Halberstadt, resulting in a profusion of small variations. Owing to field modifications and the plethora of manufacturers, and to several subgenerations of the basic machines, it is uncommon in period photos to note two truly identical specimens, and historians have difficulty deciding who made any given airframe.

Taubes served only about six months' active duty in the front lines of World War I, but since these early monoplanes comprised about half Germany's 246 available aircraft strength at the opening of hostilities, they saw considerable duty in many roles. They were in use immediately, and discovered the big Russian advance at the Battle of Tannenberg. One became notorious as the "Five O'clock Taube", philosophical progenitor to the Japanese "Washing Machine Charley" over Guadalcanal, an irritatingly regular visitor over Paris in August of 1914, dropping three-kilogram bombs, leaflets, and regular demands for the city's immediate surrender.

By 1914, however, the Taube was already obsolescent, and saw most of its military application as an observation aircraft, trainer, and utility machine with fighter squadrons.

The serious student of aviation will note in the Thompson Historical Aircraft Photo Collection that the Taube looks like a fragile antique next to aircraft designed only a few months later, and even more archaic compared to contemporary firearms. It undoubtedly already looked ancient by 1915, when the last production aircraft were less than one year old. In comparison, take a look at the photos of the P-51, last built in 1946, or the Sabre Jet, introduced in 47-48, which still look quite sleek and modern nearing fifty years down the line. The rate of progress early in aviation's history was breathtaking, materials changing even faster than designs, whereas today, major breakthroughs are actually quite rare.

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http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/AC/aircraft/Etrich-Taube/dixey-img.jpg
Paper model kits ~> http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/AC/aircraft/Etrich-Taube/taube.php

Unknown-Pilot
11-19-2005, 07:59 PM
I've never heard "Rumpler Taube" before, only Etrich Taube. Interesting.

An eastern front WWI sim seems mildly interesting too, but I fear it might ultimately be boring compared to the "traditional" front. What would a WWI sim be without SPADs, Bristols, Neiuports, DeHavilands, and Sopwiths? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Those pics look amazing.

But that worries me. Emphasis on eye candy generally means a lack of it elsewhere (such as FMs). And the face that an eastern front sim is being made... on the eastern front (so to speak) also worries me as well. It took 3 sequels and countless patches to straighten this one out, and it's still not entirely there yet.

LEXX_Luthor
11-19-2005, 08:48 PM
Unknown-Pilot:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> It took 3 sequels and countless patches to straighten this one out, and it's still not entirely there yet. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, the 1944 Western Europe sims usually don't get past one update, and are not supported as well as Maddox software products. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

If its only WW1 Eastern Front to start, it should expand to the entire war if its successful, like BoB And Beyond starts out as BoB only. I like the way this starts out with at least some primitive Flyable planes (ie...1914 YeeHaaAAWWW). All "normal" WW1 sims start out with the usual 1918 Super Scouts. WW1 Italy with its giant bombers would be a supreme simulation! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

LEXX_Luthor
11-19-2005, 09:03 PM
Unknown-Pilot:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I've never heard "Rumpler Taube" before, only Etrich Taube. Interesting. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Etrich came up with it, but it was so popular pre~war that every manufacturer started making Taubes!!

Unknown-Pilot
11-19-2005, 09:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
Unknown-Pilot:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> It took 3 sequels and countless patches to straighten this one out, and it's still not entirely there yet. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, the 1944 Western Europe sims usually don't get past one update, and are not supported as well as Maddox software products. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Perhaps you misunderstood me? (or maybe I, you? lol) By "straighten out", I'm trying to be polite about saying it's finally approaching a modicum of neutrality and accuracy, rather than, well, let's just call it "hype", and stay polite. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">If its only WW1 Eastern Front to start, it should expand to the entire war if its successful, like BoB And Beyond starts out as BoB only. I like the way this starts out with at least some primitive Flyable planes (ie...1914 YeeHaaAAWWW). All "normal" WW1 sims start out with the usual 1918 Super Scouts. WW1 Italy with its giant bombers would be a supreme simulation! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And just what's wrong with 1918 "super scouts"?

The D.VII and D.VIII flat out rock. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

And let's not forget about the high powered Austrian Albatri and the Siemens-Schuckert (with the counter rotating prop/engine rig).

As for Italy, they have a killer hot rod too, the Ansaldo (forget the model designation right now). WWI Energy Fighter design at it's best (or nearly so). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

p1ngu666
11-19-2005, 11:45 PM
be cool to have those big bombers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

PBNA-Boosher
11-20-2005, 09:51 AM
Zeppelins too!

darkhorizon11
11-20-2005, 07:08 PM
Up to 1921? Sweet looks like they'll have the Polish invasion in there too, although there wasn't much in air operations in that campaign. Still, shes got potential.

Sturm_Williger
11-21-2005, 06:11 AM
Love the complex dials and gauges in that cockpit ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif