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Anjinsama
10-07-2004, 08:11 AM
I'm in the market for a new joystick, my logitech extreme3dpro has developed a twitch just as I start to apply back-pressure, just no good for the fine control required for nice three pointers, or for lining up a baddie from 200yds away.
I've got my eye on a couple of new controllers:
The Saitek X52:
http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/x52.htm
or CH's Pro-Throttle / Fighterstick combo.
http://www.chproducts.com/retail_flash/index.html
Does anyone have any experience with either of these two companies or products for that matter? What advice do you have to give regarding precision control of these systems?

Anjinsama
10-07-2004, 08:11 AM
I'm in the market for a new joystick, my logitech extreme3dpro has developed a twitch just as I start to apply back-pressure, just no good for the fine control required for nice three pointers, or for lining up a baddie from 200yds away.
I've got my eye on a couple of new controllers:
The Saitek X52:
http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/x52.htm
or CH's Pro-Throttle / Fighterstick combo.
http://www.chproducts.com/retail_flash/index.html
Does anyone have any experience with either of these two companies or products for that matter? What advice do you have to give regarding precision control of these systems?

Tully__
10-07-2004, 08:24 AM
CH are better quality, Saitek are excellent value for money for a slightly lower cost.

You'll not find many who have experience with the X-52, it's not even on the market yet AFAIK. If it is released, it's only been availabe for a matter of days, weeks at most.

I've been using a Saitek X-45 for about 2 years and like it. It's a very popular stick among HOTAS users and you can use the Throttle (with the stick plugged in but put aside) in combination with a force feedback stick if you require FFB. On the down side, some have trouble adjusting to the rudder control, which is a rocker on the back of the throttle rather than the usual twist handle (you use left hand finger tips to control it).

The CH combo you suggest doesn't have a rudder control. Have you considered getting the slightly cheaper X-45 with the CH Pro Pedals USB instead? This is also a very popular combo and the X-45 offers excellent programmability with drivers that have come to be reliable in the last 12 months.

If budget is not a concern, go for the CH gear and add the Pro Pedals into the mix.

HansKnappstick
10-07-2004, 09:17 AM
Saitek X52 will be available in November, according to the Saitek website. You can even pre-order it from them now!

How many people are going to do that? Since I am interested in the first users' relations, and don't want to experiment on myself!

lil_labbit
10-07-2004, 10:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HansKnappstick:
Saitek X52 will be available in November, according to the Saitek website. You can even pre-order it from them now!

How many people are going to do that? Since I am interested in the first users' relations, and don't want to experiment on myself! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me Me ME ! I want it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I will also get me the new evo FFB http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Currently I have an X45 and a normal evo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

RevvinUK
10-07-2004, 10:43 AM
If you bought the CH Fighterstick and Pro Throttle you could use the ministick on the throttle for rudder input.

Bearcat99
10-07-2004, 03:06 PM
X45/MSFFB2/CH Pedals.. works for me..

Anjinsama
10-07-2004, 03:53 PM
yeah, I've got the CH pro pedals and the CH Flight sim yoke, so I guess CH it is. I'd rather not have to worry about quality, that is my main concern as all of the $90 joysticks I've bought have packed it in on me when it comes to fine control...

RevvinUK
10-07-2004, 04:37 PM
The USB Fighterstick I bought approximately a year ago feels the same as it did the day I took it out of the box, no more centre play, buttons feel just as positive in their action and no loss of performance from the potentiometers as I've had with other sticks. As you already have the Pro Pedals then a Pro Throttle and Fighterstick (or Combatstick) would make an excellent addition.

nickdanger3
10-07-2004, 05:03 PM
I'm feeling the same way about my joystick. Can't trust it as it's a year old Logitech.

What are peoples opinions of other Force Feedback sticks. Yeah yeah yeah the Microsofts are the gold standard, but I'd rather buy new and not more than $120.

Do the Saitek FFB's compare well?

Tully__
10-07-2004, 07:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anjinsama:
yeah, I've got the CH pro pedals and the CH Flight sim yoke, so I guess CH it is. I'd rather not have to worry about quality, that is my main concern as all of the $90 joysticks I've bought have packed it in on me when it comes to fine control... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

As you've already got the Pro Pedals and it seems that the cost is not an issue for you, go for the CH gear http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-07-2004, 07:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tully__:
As you've already got the Pro Pedals and it seems that the cost is not an issue for you, go for the CH gear http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

...and don't look back. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

yellowfeather
10-08-2004, 01:47 AM
Has anyone on here used the Saitek Cyborg Graphite joystick? I'm wanting to know if there is anyway to work the throttle and rudders with it.

Tully__
10-08-2004, 06:47 AM
Yellowfeather, click the "Joysticks & FB" link in my sig, there's a section on using multiple controllers.

BM357_TinMan
10-08-2004, 08:20 AM
Only prob with the CH throttle, (I own it and the 45) is, for some reason, CH doesn't put rotary axis on it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

I use the x45 combo, works good (knock on wood) could use atleast one more rotary though, two more would be best for a total of 4, but two is better than the zero the ch has