PDA

View Full Version : I16 and Migs with rockets



XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 01:13 PM
Are these two plane series overmodeled when they carry rockets. I have not tried them by myself but its seems online that those planes can still maneuver very well even with rockets underwing? Do those rockets have an affect on the flight characters of those planes? I would imagine that the effect in reality would be quite dramatical.

XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 01:13 PM
Are these two plane series overmodeled when they carry rockets. I have not tried them by myself but its seems online that those planes can still maneuver very well even with rockets underwing? Do those rockets have an affect on the flight characters of those planes? I would imagine that the effect in reality would be quite dramatical.

michapma
08-22-2003, 01:22 PM
The presence of the rockets have at least two effects: reducing top speed and acceleration, and slowing the roll rate. I am fairly sure that it reduces the top speed and acceleration somewhat, and almost quite sure that it affects the roll rate, at least in the I-16. Don't have enough experience in the MiG.

... and be careful how you throw around the words overmodeled and undermodeled. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-wink.gif

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10"><tr valign="middle" bgcolor="#3e463b"><td height="40" colspan="3" align="center">The ongoing IL-2 User's Guide project (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/)</a></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#515e2f"><td width="40%">FB engine management:
Manifold Pressure sucks (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182081-1.html)
Those Marvelous Props (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182082-1.html)
Mixture Magic (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182084-1.html)
Putting It All Together (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182085-1.html)
Those Fire-Breathing Turbos (Part 1 of 6) (http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182102-1.html)</td><td align="center">

‚ =69.GIAP=Chap‚

69.GIAP (http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/giap/)</p></td><td width="40%" align="right" valign="top">Hardware:
Flight Simulation Performance Analyzed (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_062a.html)
Building a home-made throttle quadrant step by step (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zkavv)
Sound Can Be Hazardous for Games (http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html)</td></tr></table>

XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 04:26 PM
the il2s seems the same way, Now with the 109 carring a drop tank when you jettison it, it still seems like the full weight of the drop tank is there or there drop tank rack is whats causing the drag.


http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4jz7i/ls.gif

Good dogfighters bring ammo home, Great ones don't. (c) Leadspitter

XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 06:57 PM
I've never noticed very much reduced performance with early Yaks, IL2s or I16/15s. But on a Mig I do notice the degradation, so it must be modelled.

XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 07:01 PM
Well I`ve flown the Lagg 3 `41 with Rockets. I don`t seriously expect to hit, but I did get one hit once. Anyway, the plane manouevers very well with them, but you`ve had it if you start dogfighting. From what I can tell I always dip into a vicious stall. As soon as trouble happens I fire all the rockets and everything`s better. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

"Tis better to work towards an Impossible Good, rather than a Possible Evil."

SeaFireLIV.

XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 07:09 PM
I have an expression that soviet fighters loose none of their manouvarability when carrying rockets.. even when the Chaikak carries them.. I hope this gets fixxed someday

____________________________________



Official Sig:



<center>http://koti.mbnet.fi/vipez/shots/Vipez4.jpg </center>