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TheSgtUltra
07-24-2018, 03:36 PM
First off i wanted to thank the devs for listening to us and bringing the Hk 416 to the game, creating a thrilling R6S mission, Ghost mode and new cosmetics.

Now onto the theme of this thread.

There are a few things which players have been complaining about since the start, that still isn't fixed and breaks immersion. These are things that are easy to implement, but it seems the devs aren't even looking at the forums and that the only knowledge they have of what the community wants, is what the community managers pass along.
Things like a short barrel option for the M4A1 (and now 416), fix the shade of the rails on the Fast Ballistic Helmet, fix the panoramic NVGs which are waaaaay to flipped over (this is really stupid and annoyingly wrong), Semi Auto for the R5 RGP (what were the dev/devs thinking?), R5 RGP paint won't stay when you get out of gunsmith, already unlocked magazines suddenly disappear, and doesn't exist in the world for you to pick up unlock again.

Now lets address the new 416 (HK 416). In-game there is no short barrel option. I'm guessing the dev/devs working on this is French, and based this of the HK 416F (French version of the HK416). The HK416F is way more common with an 11" barrel (short barrel) and 14,5" (standard barrel) than a 16"inch one (long barrel), still some brilliant guy decided "ah lets just slap a new design on the old P416 and keep everything else the same, who cares about a short barrel anyway."
This isn't even a request or suggestion, this is a complaint about the authenticity, which supposedly was really important before the game was released. The GST (Group for Specialized Tactics - Ghosts) is a unit within JSOC. JSOC operators get issued the HK416 with a short barrel, but still who cares about authenticity right?
As i mentioned, this is just a reskin of the P416 (Audio/size/attachments) so the same problem with the T-1 Micro & G33 scope goes here: in gunsmith the attachment appears to be placed the same place as the EXPS & G33, but when you exit gunsmith the optics moves onto the hand guard and looks straight up goofy.
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/36940724_1920237251373128_366824184564678656_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=e5f29f2f2c25fc42f646c0143383cce9&oe=5BCC8DB8
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/37775482_1920237381373115_1144552855319871488_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=411acb8a72e40021a5e34a1cf2060f1d&oe=5BE10139

I didn't mean to come of rude, and if i did then i apologize. I've spent a lot of money on the game, and the fact that the R6S pack isn't included with the year 2 pass annoys me. As well as the stuff they haven't fixed (over a year after launch). I still have faith in the devs however, and hope they'll do something about these issues in Special Operation 3 and 4, although that is way to long to wait for simple fixes, but i guess you just want to make the patch notes page as long as possible...

Ghost-Ami
07-24-2018, 03:43 PM
Somebody in a different thread said the forward position of the optics is to allow a player to wear NODs that flip down without the two things clipping into each other.

Guess it does look a little goofy to run optics so far forward on a weapon, but plenty of shooters in the physical world do that, and in any case I think clipping with NODs would be goofier.

Lesser of two evils sort of thing, I guess.

KingSpawn1979
07-24-2018, 03:44 PM
101% agree
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TheSgtUltra
07-24-2018, 03:46 PM
Somebody in a different thread said the forward position of the optics is to allow a player to wear NODs that flip down without the two things clipping into each other.

Guess it does look a little goofy to run optics so far forward on a weapon, but plenty of shooters in the physical world do that, and in any case I think clipping with NODs would be goofier.
It's not though, it's a glitch and it doesn't happen with the other magnified red dots. In the real world, you don't use night vision with magnified optics, that's what IR lasers are for, as i mentioned in the thread you're talking about

Ghost416
07-24-2018, 03:49 PM
Pretty sure it was me Non-Exist-Ent was referring to. The Aimpoint/Magnifier thing is definitely a bug, I just stated that I liked it that way for the reason he said.

TheSgtUltra
07-24-2018, 03:54 PM
guys.. I didn't think it could get worse.. When you use the iron sights with the HK416, they aren't even flipped up, will post picture

KingSpawn1979
07-24-2018, 03:56 PM
guys.. I didn't think it could get worse.. When you use the iron sights with the HK416, they aren't even flipped up, will post picture

I'd laugh if it wouldn't be so sad -.-

Ghost416
07-24-2018, 04:00 PM
Good thing I prefer optics.

I also noticed that the 416 is the HK416F variant recently adopted by the French armed forces.

TheSgtUltra
07-24-2018, 04:03 PM
I wish i was joking...https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/37699774_1920332978030222_1334489597777805312_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=c1e34b7f0ab9b0d253cbd038fb6f72bc&oe=5C130210https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/37730659_1920332811363572_7555309582080278528_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=4693b4848ce94af66225e6978a4e972e&oe=5BD325A6

Edgemoor
07-24-2018, 04:12 PM
Sadly any fixes, or changes, will be incoming in about 3 months time minimum, but keep listing them. The R5 camo bug appears to be now fixed with this patch.

KingSpawn1979
07-24-2018, 04:14 PM
I wish i was joking...https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/37699774_1920332978030222_1334489597777805312_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=c1e34b7f0ab9b0d253cbd038fb6f72bc&oe=5C130210https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/37730659_1920332811363572_7555309582080278528_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=4693b4848ce94af66225e6978a4e972e&oe=5BD325A6

Looks so hilarious.

TheSgtUltra
07-24-2018, 04:27 PM
Sadly any fixes, or changes, will be incoming in about 3 months time minimum, but keep listing them. The R5 camo bug appears to be now fixed with this patch.
Thanks! I was playing during the maintainance, that might be why it wasn't fixed for me..

Ghost416
07-24-2018, 05:29 PM
The R5 camo bug appears to be now fixed with this patch.
And yet still no Full Auto/Semi Auto trigger mod... :(

TheSgtUltra
07-24-2018, 05:39 PM
And yet still no Full Auto/Semi Auto trigger mod... :(
Maybe we'll see it in 3-6 months, and have to pay half the price of the game for it:))))))

BGOd42
07-25-2018, 10:14 AM
Is it required to purchase the pack to get this weapon? I really have been wanting a 416 but I'm not sure if I should buy it since I heard something that come 7/31 it'll drop for nonseason pass owners? So does that mean these items will become available to normal players for free then?

KingSpawn1979
07-25-2018, 10:37 AM
The 416 is only obtainable via Ghost Pack for 2800 Credits.

Th3D00mSl4y3r
07-25-2018, 10:58 AM
I could really care less about the 416 having a Short Barrel. I prefer more distance.

BGOd42
07-25-2018, 11:03 AM
That sucks, I just finished the rainbow mission. Was hoping it'd be a free or discounted unlock. I don't see how I can justify a 20 bucks for a pvp weapon of a game I already finished. Sigh

Ghost416
07-25-2018, 11:07 AM
I could really care less about the 416 having a Short Barrel. I prefer more distance.
I've never had any range discrepancies between barrel lengths in the game. Anything I can hit with a long barrel, I can hit with a short barrel.

tbtstt82
07-25-2018, 02:11 PM
That sucks, I just finished the rainbow mission. Was hoping it'd be a free or discounted unlock. I don't see how I can justify a 20 bucks for a pvp weapon of a game I already finished. Sigh
Yep, I'm in the same boat. Absolutely daft to include such a requested item in such an expensive package.

TheSgtUltra
07-25-2018, 05:51 PM
Yep, I'm in the same boat. Absolutely daft to include such a requested item in such an expensive package.
Worst part is it isn't even free with season pass..

biomag83
07-25-2018, 06:00 PM
Worst part is it isn't even free with season pass..

If the season pass would have included the whole season I would have bought it, but I really don't care about the 1 week early-bonus you get and most of the stuff is sadly for PvP. The first seas pass was good (even though it had NR), but this one was really a joke by Ubi...