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jamesdietz
08-25-2008, 09:29 AM
Paul Allen's/Flying Heritage collection's authentic Bf-109E warmed up & flew last Saturday.Its Daimler Benz was worth waiting for...
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0012.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0019.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0022.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0023.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0024.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0027.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0080.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0097.jpg
it was floowed closely by 3 very pretty P-51s includinga D-Day Marked Razor back:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0039.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0048.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0131.jpg

jamesdietz
08-25-2008, 09:29 AM
Paul Allen's/Flying Heritage collection's authentic Bf-109E warmed up & flew last Saturday.Its Daimler Benz was worth waiting for...
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0012.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0019.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0022.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0023.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0024.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0027.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0080.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0097.jpg
it was floowed closely by 3 very pretty P-51s includinga D-Day Marked Razor back:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0039.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0048.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/jamesdietz/IMG_0131.jpg

Blutarski2004
08-25-2008, 09:39 AM
Super photos, JD.

From what field was this flight made?

steiner562
08-25-2008, 09:43 AM
Great pics http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Uufflakke
08-25-2008, 09:50 AM
Thanx for sharing these photos! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Paul Allen was the co-founder of Microsoft and on his site http://www.flyingheritage.com/you can see the coming fly-events.
September the 20th he flies again in his Emil. This guy has a nice collection of WWII planes!
I would love to hear the sound of this Messie...

jamesdietz
08-25-2008, 09:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Blutarski2004:
Super photos, JD.

From what field was this flight made? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
They flew from Paine Field Washington,Home of the impressive Flying Heritage collection.Most of the aircraft there do fly on scheduled weekends,excluding a very lovely Fw-190D model & a pretty Me-163....way too rare to risk...

mortoma
08-25-2008, 09:58 AM
Is it an E3, E4 or E7 or something else?

Uufflakke
08-25-2008, 10:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mortoma:
Is it an E3, E4 or E7 or something else? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

E3

mortoma
08-25-2008, 10:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Uufflakke:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mortoma:
Is it an E3, E4 or E7 or something else? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

E3 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Kewel! I thought it an E4 but E3's were similar.

Choctaw111
08-25-2008, 10:40 AM
Beautiful http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Thank you for sharing.

Metatron_123
08-25-2008, 10:50 AM
Awesome! Is this a newly restored 109?

The more the merrier! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

waffen-79
08-25-2008, 12:00 PM
they should've those during the filming of BOB(1969) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

stalkervision
08-25-2008, 12:40 PM
wow!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Stingray333
08-25-2008, 12:48 PM
Awesome! I'd love to see (and to hear) a BF-109 in flight

this morning as I drank my coffee, I was wondering, how many BF-109's are there around flying today? Although it was the most produced fighter aircraft of all time, I hear that ~1/3rd were lost in takeoff/landing, and then many were destroyed by the end of the war. Are they a relative "rarity" to be flying today, or are there quite a few around? A tough question to answer, but I am nonetheless curious,

Thanks,

Stingray

slipBall
08-25-2008, 12:57 PM
Very cool! you'll rember those sight's and sounds a long time

berg417448
08-25-2008, 01:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stingray333:
Awesome! I'd love to see (and to hear) a BF-109 in flight

this morning as I drank my coffee, I was wondering, how many BF-109's are there around flying today? Although it was the most produced fighter aircraft of all time, I hear that ~1/3rd were lost in takeoff/landing, and then many were destroyed by the end of the war. Are they a relative "rarity" to be flying today, or are there quite a few around? A tough question to answer, but I am nonetheless curious,

Thanks,

Stingray </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A little bit of surviving 109 info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_BF_109_Survivors

cawimmer430
08-25-2008, 02:16 PM
Cool pics. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


This guy has a Me-163B too? Must have taken balls to fly that thing! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Schwarz.13
08-25-2008, 02:43 PM
Lovely to see it in the air http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cawimmer430:
Cool pics. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


This guy has a Me-163B too? Must have taken balls to fly that thing! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/9/1/2/1379219.jpg

Taken at Augsburg airshow 2008 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

cawimmer430
08-25-2008, 04:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schwarz.13:
Lovely to see it in the air http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cawimmer430:
Cool pics. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


This guy has a Me-163B too? Must have taken balls to fly that thing! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/9/1/2/1379219.jpg

Taken at Augsburg airshow 2008 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Jesus! What was powering this thing!? The original Walter engine with the dangerous T-Stoff hydrogen peroxide mixture!? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

stalkervision
08-25-2008, 04:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cawimmer430:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schwarz.13:
Lovely to see it in the air http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cawimmer430:
Cool pics. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


This guy has a Me-163B too? Must have taken balls to fly that thing! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/9/1/2/1379219.jpg

Taken at Augsburg airshow 2008 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Jesus! What was powering this thing!? The original Walter engine with the dangerous T-Stoff hydrogen peroxide mixture!? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No you fruit bat. I am sure it is a towed model. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

even the original 163's were towed quite often before they were ever "sharp started" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

They could put in a new hydrogen pyroxide engine that is very safe but it would have no where near the power of the original I believe.

Funny thing is it is flying with the dolly attached! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Not a good idea to ever do with the original EVER!

WTE_Galway
08-25-2008, 04:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stingray333:
Awesome! I'd love to see (and to hear) a BF-109 in flight

this morning as I drank my coffee, I was wondering, how many BF-109's are there around flying today? Although it was the most produced fighter aircraft of all time, I hear that ~1/3rd were lost in takeoff/landing, and then many were destroyed by the end of the war. Are they a relative "rarity" to be flying today, or are there quite a few around? A tough question to answer, but I am nonetheless curious,

Thanks,

Stingray </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I looked this up once, the figure for all 109's was actually about 5% of combat aircraft lost in accidents of all kinds. Which is still a lot. (but of all Luftwaffe aircraft the Starfighter record was far far the worst)

Naturally outside of combat (among warbirds for example) the percentage of losses attributed to accident is close to 100%.

luftluuver
08-25-2008, 06:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
Funny thing is it is flying with the dolly attached! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No it is a fixed wheel replacing part of the landing skid.

more pics
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=...&distinct_entry=true (http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=D-1636&distinct_entry=true)

Multimetal
08-25-2008, 06:38 PM
Beautiful photos! A quick question about the 51 razorback-it appears to be a P-51B/C style fuselage with a later P-51D style vertical fin? Is it a composite model or something I've never seen before?

luftluuver
08-25-2008, 06:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Multimetal:
Beautiful photos! A quick question about the 51 razorback-it appears to be a P-51B/C style fuselage with a later P-51D style vertical fin? Is it a composite model or something I've never seen before? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Many of the B/Cs had the fin fillet added as they had the same snaking problem, though not as bad as the D/Ks.

stalkervision
08-25-2008, 07:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by luftluuver:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stalkervision:
Funny thing is it is flying with the dolly attached! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No it is a fixed wheel replacing part of the landing skid.

more pics
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=...&distinct_entry=true (http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=D-1636&distinct_entry=true) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the pics buddy. I couldn't imagine they would fly it that way.

One thing I do wonder though, The Me-163 has a shock absorbing system in the skid when it was lowered. This was instituted when one of the luftwaffe pilots hurt his back very severely due to the problem of no good shock absorber system for the pilot landing the 109.

Without the skid and it's shock absorber system what do they do now? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

luftluuver
08-25-2008, 07:46 PM
The pilot I think you will find was a female, Hanna Resche.

Malfunctioning hydraulic dampers in the skid could lead to back injuries for the pilot on landing, which were always there.

M_Gunz
08-25-2008, 08:21 PM
Heini Dittmar had injured his back badly enough landing one in Nov 1942 to be hospitalized,
it says here on "Rudy Opitz Tells It Like It Was". (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.walker6/komet/flight/flight1.htm)

Is taking the dolly up a problem?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Rudy Opitz:
"For my first flight, Dittmar just turned the plane over to me and said, Go for it.' The dolly was just in front of the CG, so the tailwheel was able to come off the ground fairly easily once some speed was gained. I had my mind on the cockpit"the pressure gauge and airspeed indicator"and before I knew it, I was over the end of the runway and probably 200 feet in the air and had not ejected the dolly. Although it was not known how the dolly would affect the aerodynamics, I felt there was no reason to lose the dolly, so I decided to land on it. I had no breaks and, with the dolly attached, no shock absorbtion, but I landed without a problem." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yah, you can get hurt in the original 163 even though he didn't.

It's a shame they don't say more about their 163 except that's it's real, not a replica.
I doubt they'd tear the engine out and from the site text it would seem to have one so that
much said I also doubt it's modified to run on other fuels like LOX and kerosene or stronger.
And I'd hate to think of all the permits, etc, not to mention trouble and would even Lloyds
insure one with pilot running on anything comparable to the original fuels enough to get it
in the air?

A replica.... liquid nitrogen can generate 7000 psi without even a flame but it might get
just a bit cold inside the plane. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif There's ways and there's ways.

sw25th
08-25-2008, 08:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by luftluuver:
The pilot I think you will find was a female, Hanna Resche.

Malfunctioning hydraulic dampers in the skid could lead to back injuries for the pilot on landing, which were always there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Get it right. HANNA REITSCH

And she flew the Me163 and crashed in it too scarring her for life. She flew for the rest of her life. I am her #1 fan http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

luftluuver
08-25-2008, 08:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sw25th:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by luftluuver:
The pilot I think you will find was a female, Hanna Resche.

Malfunctioning hydraulic dampers in the skid could lead to back injuries for the pilot on landing, which were always there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Get it right. HANNA REITSCH

And she flew the Me163 and crashed in it too scarring her for life. She flew for the rest of her life. I am her #1 fan http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Relax.
Knew I should have put in a (sp??).

xTHRUDx
08-25-2008, 09:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Paul Allen's/Flying Heritage collection's authentic Bf-109E warmed up & flew last Saturday. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


AKA_Goshawk and i were there too. we were the guys that came in that white C-150 and parked just before they taxied out. Then when we were about to leave, a grumman tigercat pulled in front of us and parked.

Enforcer572005
08-25-2008, 10:49 PM
Nice shots JD. I haven't seen that B with the malcom hood before.

And I had no idea anyone even flew a replica 163 by towing it much less a real one.

-HH- Beebop
08-25-2008, 11:16 PM
On October 18th Dubbo, Waldo Pepper and I are going there. On that day (weather permitting) they plan on having the E3 do a flyby along with their I-16 Rata.
should be tons-o-fun.

Schwarz.13
08-26-2008, 03:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by -HH- Beebop:
On October 18th Dubbo, Waldo Pepper and I are going there. On that day (weather permitting) they plan on having the E3 do a flyby along with their I-16 Rata.
should be tons-o-fun. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was wondering where Waldo is these days http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

KrashanTopolova
08-26-2008, 10:54 PM
it can't be authentic...Black 6 which crashed in Britain (Captured by the RAAF at El Alamein -Wing Commander Bobby Gibbes) was the last BF109E service aircraft. It had the last remaining original engine and parts.

Refurbishment of warbirds is a rapidly growing interest and industry.

This one in Washington must have been refurbished with made parts. Many WW2 aircraft were retrieved from impossible conditions and refurbished with modern materials and parts.

There is an Oscar awaiting the same route into the air in Australia. The same Australian restorer dug up a P-40E buried on a property in Canada. It too now flies after refurbishment and even has two spare Allison engines.

WereSnowleopard
08-27-2008, 12:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Uufflakke:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mortoma:
Is it an E3, E4 or E7 or something else? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

E3 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Eeeeeek...It is E1 due to MG 17 on wing. E3 have bump at bottom of wing due to drum ammo for MG FF cannon. Am I right? Plus I noticed that Emil not have automatic slats on wings.

luftluuver
08-27-2008, 05:25 AM
It is an E-3.

Flying Heritage Collection in Seattle, USA. 1,5 wings, main spar and u/c legs were recovered from a beach in France in 1988. Extensively rebuilt. Previously with Alpine Deer Group, Wanaka, NZ.

http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/Luftwaffe/messerschmitt/me109.htm

In December, 2006, the collection announced it will be moved to Paine Field at the Snohomish County Airport[1], and the new display is scheduled to open on June 6 2008, with "Fly Days" every other Saturday.

http://www.airportjournals.com/display.cfm/Dallas/0807007

stathem
08-27-2008, 05:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schwarz.13:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by -HH- Beebop:
On October 18th Dubbo, Waldo Pepper and I are going there. On that day (weather permitting) they plan on having the E3 do a flyby along with their I-16 Rata.
should be tons-o-fun. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was wondering where Waldo is these days http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Indeed. Give him our best regards, Beebop.

Ronbo3
08-27-2008, 10:41 AM
This machine was the mount of Fw Eduard Hemmerling, 6./JG51, Wr Nr 1342 that crashed 29 Jul 40 and killed the pilot.
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=478
Black 6 was a G-2, IIRC.

jamesdietz
08-27-2008, 12:42 PM
From the reader board at the collection hanger:
"The story of this airplane:

This BF 109-E was manufactured and deployed in October 1939. Piloted by Eduard Hemmerling, it flew primarily over France. Hemmerling shot down a British Spitfire on July 7, 1940, while escorting Stuka dive-bombers that were attacking British ships in Dover harbor. Two days later he destroyed a British Blenheim bomber near Calais, France. On July 29, 1940, during another fierce battle over Dover, Hemmerling shot down a third British plane. But his own aircraft was mortally wounded, and Hemmerling turned back toward France. His failing airplane crashed off the coast of Cap Blanc Nez, killing the 27-year-old pilot.



In 1988, a man walking on the beach near Calais noticed a piece of metal sticking out of the sand --- the tip of this plane's wing. The BF 109 was excavated and placed on display in France, then later moved to England for reconstruction and restoration. In 1998 it was shipped to Seattle and added to the Flying Heritage Collection. This aircraft flies regularly on FHC fly days. The yellow bars on the tail fin represent the plane's three aerial victories."

Undoubtedly there is a longer version of its restoraation somewhere....?

Dustysquareback
08-27-2008, 01:55 PM
Nice! Just saw the whole collection a few weeks ago. Seeing the Rata and the Dora was totally awesome. I'll be there for the Rata fly-day in October. Can't wait. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

avolopoT
08-27-2008, 10:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ronbo3:
This machine was the mount of Fw Eduard Hemmerling, 6./JG51, Wr Nr 1342 that crashed 29 Jul 40 and killed the pilot.
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=478
Black 6 was a G-2, IIRC. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bobby Gibbes' Me109 was described as a G-6 and it was a Me109 with a black 6 serial number after restoration in Britain where it stayed...If there were G-6s at El Alamein we may have a case of different aircraft with serial 6 or if there were non at El Alamein the same aircraft has been misidentified either at the British or Australian end.
Then again the restorers may have made a G-2 out of a G-6 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Saburo_0
08-28-2008, 11:38 AM
Thanks for the pics!

I'm probably alone here, but I've always felt the E was the best looking of the 109s, great to see one flying with an authentic DB engine!