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Giralus
06-11-2018, 02:02 AM
Have to say, i have the same excitement i had when the Division was first revealed.

Thank you for not changing the game/gameplay and instead Building apon the first game. This looks like it should " The Division 2.0" and not a completely diffrent game.

Hopefully you blow our minds with the Darkzone and its even More dangerous than ever....( i am a PvE and PvP player ) and i hope you dont back down and cater to the sqeeky wheels that want the Darkzone Nerfed.
If there is Plenty of PvE content,than the Darkzone should Stay the PvEvP place that is extremely hazardous to your Life!! Please dont Nerf it for a small section of the playerbase.
Please stick to your guns like you did in the Division 1 and not back down on the DZ. Its a Unique Area in a video game world filled with clones of clones of clones of other games (i cant tell the differance between Battlefield 5 and COD, they look like opposites sides of the same coin now = so much for Diversity of Gameplay.... its more important to have diversity of genders and Generic/Easymode and Politically Correct nonsense, than to make a Unique stand out game these days, so keep doing You!!)

I dont really care for the PvP in The Division.. to me its lackluster compared to the Adreniline rush of the Darkzone.. (sorry but other PVP shooters are just much.. the PvP in the Division is like the Lite beer version of the Darkzone its kinda Flat and aint nothing like the real thing )

""""""""""""""""DZ LIVES 2019""""""""""""

Anyway...so far so good!!! Looking forward to learning more and more..

06-11-2018, 02:17 AM
And expect more to be shown on Ubisoft's stage tomorrow. I'm just waiting to see if anything from those The Light Zone threads show up on the world map.

Seb851s
06-11-2018, 02:43 AM
Lol alot new endgame new feature like a class system, raid, a full new post-launch content for free incl, New Story Mission, Raid, Map Zone and Game Mode for Free.

Also, new core game with less bug ...

Mad-Cap
06-11-2018, 04:00 AM
"a small section of the playerbase"

People just wanted an "option" to choose PvE only in the DZ


01-30-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1380894-Dark-Zone-can-be-fun-but-dont-forget-the-quot-non-PvP-Players-quot-Forums

01-31-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1382057-Passive-Mode-Zone-Idea-for-DZ-Forums

02-22-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1394546-Mixed-PVE-PVP-zone-is-a-bad-idea-for-the-long-term-Forums

03-18-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1413595-Give-pve-only-dark-zone-option-Forums

03-31-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1424096-Dark-Zone-needs-to-have-PvE-and-PvEvP-instances-Forums

04-05-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1426774-Pve-area-needs-to-be-darkzone-without-rogues-for-endgame-Forums

04-21-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1437455-Pve-only-dark-zone-0-Forums

04-21-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1438065-Would-PC-Players-play-a-PvE-only-Dark-Zone-Forums

04-22-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1438208-Dark-Zone-should-be-a-PVE-or-a-PVP-instance-Forums
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1438408-Rogue-Free-DZ-Felt-like-PvE-should-be-Forums

04-25-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1440000-About-the-popular-suggestion-to-add-a-PvE-PvP-flag-for-the-Dark-Zone-Forums

04-26-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1440591-Seperate-PVE-amp-PVP-Dark-Zone-Servers-Forums

04-29-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1442085-Why-the-PvP-crowd-is-going-to-end-up-with-PvE-DZ-anyway-Forums

05-03-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1443720-Explain-to-me-again-why-pve-players-are-so-salty-about-the-dark-zone-Forums

05-04-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1444372-The-Darkzone-PVP-Idea-is-cancer-Forums

05-08-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1446184-A-PVE-Only-Dark-Zone-Would-Need-To-Have-Lesser-Rewards-Forums

05-13-2016 (against PvE DZ)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1448484-The-ABSOLUTE-poor-logic-of-PVE-players-requesting-PVE-only-Darkzone-Forums

05-26-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1454513-Can-we-have-a-switch-to-turn-off-PvP-now-Forums

06-15-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1461787-I-played-a-PvE-only-DZ-phase-last-night-and-it-changed-my-opinion-about-the-DZ-Forums

06-18-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1462870-PVP-PVE-Discussion-Forums

06-18-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1462819-Any-Plan-for-PVE-only-DZ-servers-Forums

06-23-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1464486-The-dark-zone-a-mode-that-combines-Pve-PvP-NOT-a-good-idea-Forums

07-21-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1473610-Massive-give-us-a-PVE-DZ-server-Forums

08-04-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1478720-Give-PVE-players-a-PVE-dz-option-Forums

09-25-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1498910-Dark-Zone-PvE-Yea-or-Nay-Forums

09-28-2016 (includes poll)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1500375-Can-we-have-a-solo-dark-zone-only

10-04-2017 (related to PvE experience)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1759833-No-More-pvp-in-the-dark-Zone-Forums

10-25-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1511577-Still-no-Dark-Zone-PvE-Forums

11-09-2016 (3 same day)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1516426-Free-Roam-Needs-to-be-the-PVE-Dark-Zone-Forums
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1516465-PvE-DZ-Option-Please-Forums
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1516501-Option-to-change-darkzone-from-PVP-to-PVE-Forums

11-15-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1519810-Dark-Zone-PvE-ideas-Forums

11-27-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1525256-How-about-adding-PVE-mode-to-the-normal-Dark-Zone-Forums

12-02-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1528302-Why-no-PVP-flag-Forums

12-11-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1532696-Dark-Zone-need-some-serious-changes-Forums

12-29-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1542516-Is-it-really-not-possible-to-have-PvE-only-DZ-Forums

12-30-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1542831-Best-PvE-is-still-in-the-DZ-Forums

----------- 2017-------------

01-09-2017 (against PvE DZ - include Ubisoft CM reply)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1546572-Suggestions-Dark-Zone-changes-that-I-think-are-needed-Forums

01-10-2017 <Paul Tassi, Forbes (https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/01/08/yes-its-time-for-the-division-to-get-a-pve-dark-zone-at-last/#69d5913b5694)>
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1547155-Forbes-article-on-PvE-Dark-Zone-Forums

01-18-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1549895-Could-it-be-created-PvE-DZ-Forums

01-20-2017 (Includes Poll)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1550616-PvE-Dark-Zone-Forums

01-22-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1551324-PvE-only-Option-for-the-Dark-Zone-Forums

01-22-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1551515-Dark-Zone-PVE-setting-Forums

01-24-2017 (against PvE DZ - read second post :p )
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1552789-Thanks-for-not-making-a-PVE-only-DZ-Forums

01-25-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1553078-Congrats-on-killing-the-game-Forums

03-15-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1608174-The-Dark-Zone-Required-Changes-to-PVE-amp-PVP-Forums

03-22-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1613278-PvE-in-Dark-Zone-Forums

03-23-2016 (against PvE DZ?)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1418104-Dark-zone-IS-a-PvP-zone-Forums

If you just read one thread.... (this one made me quit the game for 6 months)
04-04-2017 <mattshotcha gets into it (https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1622517-Is-there-a-reason-PvE-Dark-Zone-hasn-t-happened?p=12520187&viewfull=1#post12520187)>
On a more personal note, since my comments were pulled out of context and tossed back to make me sound as if I'm casting community members aside, I'm not saying "Get out of the DZ." Never have, never going to either. Me saying it is not for everyone is a simple truth. A transparent and honest truth. Not every area of every game is going to strike a chord with everyone. And areas such as the DZ are going to be infinitely more polarizing than others. This is what happens when a game's design goes against the norm. - mattshotcha (ubisoft CM)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1622517-Is-there-a-reason-PvE-Dark-Zone-hasn-t-happened-Forums

04-10-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1628357-There-will-never-be-a-PVE-dark-zone-Forums

04-20-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1638422-Why-do-you-want-a-PVE-DZ-Forums

05-08-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1660645-PVE-Dark-Zone-Forums

05-08-2017 (Offical Ubisoft DZ Experience Survey)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1660528-The-Division-Dark-Zone-Experience-Survey-Forums

06-15-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1689031-Pve-dark-zone-finally-Forums

10-4-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1759833-No-More-pvp-in-the-dark-Zone
I don't know of any plans for a PvE DZ at this time, as it was designed to be a tough PvP experience. However, that doesn't mean players are allowed to be abusive over proximity chat. -UbiInsulin<<full context>> (https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1759833-No-More-pvp-in-the-dark-Zone?p=12986902&viewfull=1#post12986902)

10-24-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1772378-Dark-Zone-1-8-Forums

10-26-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1769639-Now-we-should-talk-about-a-PvE-DZ?highlight=vendor

11-10-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1784046-I-will-no-longer-play-the-Dark-Zone-and-this-is-why-Forums

11-29-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1796703-PvE-Darkzone-W-Hunters-Forums

------------- 2018 -------------

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1820284-gain-by-killing-solo-players-in-dz-Forums
<<Kill Bracket idea (https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1820284-gain-by-killing-solo-players-in-dz?p=13269952&viewfull=1#post13269952)>>

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1822895-A-one-fingered-salute-to-UBI-amp-the-Devs-you-for-not-listening-to-your-players

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1832143-A-PVE-and-PVP-Darkzone?p=13293465#post13293465

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1833002-Ideas-for-a-PvE-DZ-here-please!

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1834487-Why-does-the-quot-Rogue-quot-mechanic-exist-and-the-mentality-of-the-DZ

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1835610-Something-about-the-SOTG-February-8

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1837313-Why-I-will-Boycott-the-DZ-and-what-should-be-done

Risk vs Reward
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1838568-Why-don’t-people-here-understand-how-“high-risk-high-reward”-works

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1839529-Please-selection-of-the-PVE-mode-in-the-quot-Dark-Zone-quot

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1840998-Dark-zone

PvP focused DZ improvements.
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1841957-Easy-fixes-to-the-DZ-that-aren-t-making-a-PVE-only-DZ

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1841830-Dark-Zone-needs-to-have-PVE-or-PVP-choice

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1842207-Finally-given-up-on-this

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1847537-Alternative-SOLO-DZ-MODE-with-Hunters

Goo-Goo-Man
06-11-2018, 04:04 AM
Oh man I can only hope that Ubisoft’s reveal presentation rivals that of Bethesda...... those dudes knocked it right out of the park! Damn!

06-11-2018, 04:07 AM
Oh man I can only hope that Ubisoft’s reveal presentation rivals that of Bethesda...... those dudes knocked it right out of the park! Damn!

It was looking good. I'm not too big on Bethesda games and Fallout 76 might be the first. Well, Fallout Shelter will be once it hits the Nintendo E-shop.

EA had the weakest, by far.

Goo-Goo-Man
06-11-2018, 04:11 AM
It was looking good. I'm not too big on Bethesda games and Fallout 76 might be the first. Well, Fallout Shelter will be once it hits the Nintendo E-shop.

EA had the weakest, by far.

Yep, EA was a trainwreck lol

Fallout 4 is a humdinger.......lost months to that game.

Mad-Cap
06-11-2018, 04:25 AM
It was looking good. I'm not too big on Bethesda games and Fallout 76 might be the first. Well, Fallout Shelter will be once it hits the Nintendo E-shop.

EA had the weakest, by far.

EA needs a new CEO. The overall vision has shifted too much away from game experience. To me, he seems out of touch with actual players. C&C mobile game is not something you feature to gamers at E3.

sgtnogo
06-11-2018, 04:28 AM
EA needs a new CEO. The overall vision has shifted too much away from game experience. To me, he seems out of touch with actual players. C&C mobile game is not something you feature to gamers at E3.

I was surprised by how excited Rooster Teeth was over this.

Giralus
06-11-2018, 05:07 AM
"a small section of the playerbase"

People just wanted an "option" to choose PvE only in the DZ


01-30-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1380894-Dark-Zone-can-be-fun-but-dont-forget-the-quot-non-PvP-Players-quot-Forums

01-31-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1382057-Passive-Mode-Zone-Idea-for-DZ-Forums

02-22-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1394546-Mixed-PVE-PVP-zone-is-a-bad-idea-for-the-long-term-Forums

03-18-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1413595-Give-pve-only-dark-zone-option-Forums

03-31-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1424096-Dark-Zone-needs-to-have-PvE-and-PvEvP-instances-Forums

04-05-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1426774-Pve-area-needs-to-be-darkzone-without-rogues-for-endgame-Forums

04-21-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1437455-Pve-only-dark-zone-0-Forums

04-21-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1438065-Would-PC-Players-play-a-PvE-only-Dark-Zone-Forums

04-22-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1438208-Dark-Zone-should-be-a-PVE-or-a-PVP-instance-Forums
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1438408-Rogue-Free-DZ-Felt-like-PvE-should-be-Forums

04-25-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1440000-About-the-popular-suggestion-to-add-a-PvE-PvP-flag-for-the-Dark-Zone-Forums

04-26-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1440591-Seperate-PVE-amp-PVP-Dark-Zone-Servers-Forums

04-29-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1442085-Why-the-PvP-crowd-is-going-to-end-up-with-PvE-DZ-anyway-Forums

05-03-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1443720-Explain-to-me-again-why-pve-players-are-so-salty-about-the-dark-zone-Forums

05-04-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1444372-The-Darkzone-PVP-Idea-is-cancer-Forums

05-08-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1446184-A-PVE-Only-Dark-Zone-Would-Need-To-Have-Lesser-Rewards-Forums

05-13-2016 (against PvE DZ)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1448484-The-ABSOLUTE-poor-logic-of-PVE-players-requesting-PVE-only-Darkzone-Forums

05-26-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1454513-Can-we-have-a-switch-to-turn-off-PvP-now-Forums

06-15-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1461787-I-played-a-PvE-only-DZ-phase-last-night-and-it-changed-my-opinion-about-the-DZ-Forums

06-18-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1462870-PVP-PVE-Discussion-Forums

06-18-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1462819-Any-Plan-for-PVE-only-DZ-servers-Forums

06-23-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1464486-The-dark-zone-a-mode-that-combines-Pve-PvP-NOT-a-good-idea-Forums

07-21-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1473610-Massive-give-us-a-PVE-DZ-server-Forums

08-04-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1478720-Give-PVE-players-a-PVE-dz-option-Forums

09-25-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1498910-Dark-Zone-PvE-Yea-or-Nay-Forums

09-28-2016 (includes poll)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1500375-Can-we-have-a-solo-dark-zone-only

10-04-2017 (related to PvE experience)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1759833-No-More-pvp-in-the-dark-Zone-Forums

10-25-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1511577-Still-no-Dark-Zone-PvE-Forums

11-09-2016 (3 same day)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1516426-Free-Roam-Needs-to-be-the-PVE-Dark-Zone-Forums
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1516465-PvE-DZ-Option-Please-Forums
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1516501-Option-to-change-darkzone-from-PVP-to-PVE-Forums

11-15-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1519810-Dark-Zone-PvE-ideas-Forums

11-27-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1525256-How-about-adding-PVE-mode-to-the-normal-Dark-Zone-Forums

12-02-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1528302-Why-no-PVP-flag-Forums

12-11-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1532696-Dark-Zone-need-some-serious-changes-Forums

12-29-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1542516-Is-it-really-not-possible-to-have-PvE-only-DZ-Forums

12-30-2016
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1542831-Best-PvE-is-still-in-the-DZ-Forums

----------- 2017-------------

01-09-2017 (against PvE DZ - include Ubisoft CM reply)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1546572-Suggestions-Dark-Zone-changes-that-I-think-are-needed-Forums

01-10-2017 <Paul Tassi, Forbes (https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/01/08/yes-its-time-for-the-division-to-get-a-pve-dark-zone-at-last/#69d5913b5694)>
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1547155-Forbes-article-on-PvE-Dark-Zone-Forums

01-18-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1549895-Could-it-be-created-PvE-DZ-Forums

01-20-2017 (Includes Poll)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1550616-PvE-Dark-Zone-Forums

01-22-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1551324-PvE-only-Option-for-the-Dark-Zone-Forums

01-22-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1551515-Dark-Zone-PVE-setting-Forums

01-24-2017 (against PvE DZ - read second post :p )
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1552789-Thanks-for-not-making-a-PVE-only-DZ-Forums

01-25-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1553078-Congrats-on-killing-the-game-Forums

03-15-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1608174-The-Dark-Zone-Required-Changes-to-PVE-amp-PVP-Forums

03-22-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1613278-PvE-in-Dark-Zone-Forums

03-23-2016 (against PvE DZ?)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1418104-Dark-zone-IS-a-PvP-zone-Forums

If you just read one thread.... (this one made me quit the game for 6 months)
04-04-2017 <mattshotcha gets into it (https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1622517-Is-there-a-reason-PvE-Dark-Zone-hasn-t-happened?p=12520187&viewfull=1#post12520187)>
On a more personal note, since my comments were pulled out of context and tossed back to make me sound as if I'm casting community members aside, I'm not saying "Get out of the DZ." Never have, never going to either. Me saying it is not for everyone is a simple truth. A transparent and honest truth. Not every area of every game is going to strike a chord with everyone. And areas such as the DZ are going to be infinitely more polarizing than others. This is what happens when a game's design goes against the norm. - mattshotcha (ubisoft CM)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1622517-Is-there-a-reason-PvE-Dark-Zone-hasn-t-happened-Forums

04-10-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1628357-There-will-never-be-a-PVE-dark-zone-Forums

04-20-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1638422-Why-do-you-want-a-PVE-DZ-Forums

05-08-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1660645-PVE-Dark-Zone-Forums

05-08-2017 (Offical Ubisoft DZ Experience Survey)
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1660528-The-Division-Dark-Zone-Experience-Survey-Forums

06-15-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1689031-Pve-dark-zone-finally-Forums

10-4-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1759833-No-More-pvp-in-the-dark-Zone
I don't know of any plans for a PvE DZ at this time, as it was designed to be a tough PvP experience. However, that doesn't mean players are allowed to be abusive over proximity chat. -UbiInsulin<<full context>> (https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1759833-No-More-pvp-in-the-dark-Zone?p=12986902&viewfull=1#post12986902)

10-24-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1772378-Dark-Zone-1-8-Forums

10-26-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1769639-Now-we-should-talk-about-a-PvE-DZ?highlight=vendor

11-10-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1784046-I-will-no-longer-play-the-Dark-Zone-and-this-is-why-Forums

11-29-2017
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1796703-PvE-Darkzone-W-Hunters-Forums

------------- 2018 -------------

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1820284-gain-by-killing-solo-players-in-dz-Forums
<<Kill Bracket idea (https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1820284-gain-by-killing-solo-players-in-dz?p=13269952&viewfull=1#post13269952)>>

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1822895-A-one-fingered-salute-to-UBI-amp-the-Devs-you-for-not-listening-to-your-players

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1832143-A-PVE-and-PVP-Darkzone?p=13293465#post13293465

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1833002-Ideas-for-a-PvE-DZ-here-please!

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1834487-Why-does-the-quot-Rogue-quot-mechanic-exist-and-the-mentality-of-the-DZ

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1835610-Something-about-the-SOTG-February-8

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1837313-Why-I-will-Boycott-the-DZ-and-what-should-be-done

Risk vs Reward
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1838568-Why-don’t-people-here-understand-how-“high-risk-high-reward”-works

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1839529-Please-selection-of-the-PVE-mode-in-the-quot-Dark-Zone-quot

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1840998-Dark-zone

PvP focused DZ improvements.
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1841957-Easy-fixes-to-the-DZ-that-aren-t-making-a-PVE-only-DZ

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1841830-Dark-Zone-needs-to-have-PVE-or-PVP-choice

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1842207-Finally-given-up-on-this

https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1847537-Alternative-SOLO-DZ-MODE-with-Hunters

People just wanted an "option" to choose PvE only in the DZ


Yes a Small section of the playerbase.
4 to 5 thousand people who repeatedly post over and over and over and ovet and over and over ans over and over agian Does not make them a Majority..

They are still a Small section of the playerbase that feels "I payed money i deserve Everything ".

One game mode out of the game that is Not designed for PVE players = Cry till they get what they want = Squeaky Wheel.

95% of the game is PVE ONLY from LZ Open Woeld to Multiple Raid zones(Incursions)to Mission Zones, to Survival,Quests. Etc.. etc.. etc..

PvEvP has 3% of the game a large zone with Enemies in it and other Players..(But you need that Also?... really?..)

And PvP has 2% of the game that wasnt added for over a Year.

But whatever. Like Most sevelopers these days, they will most likely Cave to the Vocal Minority that wants Everything (ala Battlefield V = What a Joke of a Train Wreck... and i have spent Thousamds of hours playing BF games.. but gotta Make little Billy happy with Mowhawks and Tie Die Sweaters in a WW2 Game....)

Even if The Division 2 PvE content is Triple what it was in The Division.. there will still be those "I payed MONEY i want accces to Every square inch od the game or i will Pout and Stomp my feet...."

You cant please all the people all the time .. if 95% aint good enough for a Small minority.. thats just to bad.. you dont take from the 50% of the Playerbase that Enjoys the DZ to please the 1% of PVE only players that are Jelous.

Mad-Cap
06-11-2018, 05:42 AM
People just wanted an "option" to choose PvE only in the DZ


Yes a Small section of the playerbase.
4 to 5 thousand people who repeatedly post over and over and over and ovet and over and over ans over and over agian Does not make them a Majority..

They are still a Small section of the playerbase that feels "I payed money i deserve Everything ".

One game mode out of the game that is Not designed for PVE players = Cry till they get what they want = Squeaky Wheel.

95% of the game is PVE ONLY from LZ Open Woeld to Multiple Raid zones(Incursions)to Mission Zones, to Survival,Quests. Etc.. etc.. etc..

PvEvP has 3% of the game a large zone with Enemies in it and other Players..(But you need that Also?... really?..)

And PvP has 2% of the game that wasnt added for over a Year.

But whatever. Like Most sevelopers these days, they will most likely Cave to the Vocal Minority that wants Everything (ala Battlefield V = What a Joke of a Train Wreck... and i have spent Thousamds of hours playing BF games.. but gotta Make little Billy happy with Mowhawks and Tie Die Sweaters in a WW2 Game....)

Even if The Division 2 PvE content is Triple what it was in The Division.. there will still be those "I payed MONEY i want accces to Every square inch od the game or i will Pout and Stomp my feet...."

You cant please all the people all the time .. if 95% aint good enough for a Small minority.. thats just to bad.. you dont take from the 50% of the Playerbase that Enjoys the DZ to please the 1% of PVE only players that are Jelous.

whatever dude....:rolleyes:
4 out of 5 players like peanut butter sandwiches... see I can make up stats too.

NEC Avenue
06-11-2018, 05:47 AM
Lol alot new endgame new feature like a class system, raid, a full new post-launch content for free incl, New Story Mission, Raid, Map Zone and Game Mode for Free.

Also, new core game with less bug ...

What's the difference between a "raid" and a "mission/incursion"....?

06-11-2018, 06:02 AM
What's the difference between a "raid" and a "mission/incursion"....?

Difficulty, boss phases, encounters, and other mechanics. NPCs could play differently. Puzzles. Stolen Signal was the closest thing you got as a Raid in Division 1.

I just hope there is matchmaking for Raids. If there is one thing I hope to have in Division 2, it's that.

Sharpandpointy
06-11-2018, 12:12 PM
One game mode out of the game that is Not designed for PVE players = Cry till they get what they want

...but gotta Make little Billy happy with Mowhawks and Tie Die Sweaters in a WW2 Game....)

..."I payed MONEY i want accces to Every square inch od the game or i will Pout and Stomp my feet...."

And the venom starts again.

Totally unnecessary.

SevenNVD
06-11-2018, 12:30 PM
4 out of 5 players like peanut butter sandwiches...

i knew it!

NEC Avenue
06-11-2018, 12:34 PM
Difficulty, boss phases, encounters, and other mechanics. NPCs could play differently. Puzzles. Stolen Signal was the closest thing you got as a Raid in Division 1.

I just hope there is matchmaking for Raids. If there is one thing I hope to have in Division 2, it's that.

Raid is a term that should be left to Destiny. Division games should stay with Incursions. I'm glad Massive used missions/incursions instead of copying Destiny. Also "Exotics" sound so stupid in a military shooter. I wish Massive revamps the whole weapon class naming convention in TD2....it's embarrassing.

06-11-2018, 12:47 PM
Raid is a term that should be left to Destiny. Division games should stay with Incursions. I'm glad Massive used missions/incursions instead of copying Destiny. Also "Exotics" sound so stupid in a military shooter. I wish Massive revamps the whole weapon class naming convention in TD2....it's embarrassing.

Destiny isn't the first game to have them, it's just the more relevant game right now.

And if anything, Incursions are Destiny's Strikes.

ChiroVette
06-11-2018, 04:26 PM
I never really knew anything about The Division, but watched the footage during MS's conference yesterday. It looks really good. I am going to be watching Ubi's conference today anyway, because I am really interested in The Crew 2, so I can't wait to hopefully see more about The Division 2 as well.

I did have a question: The interaction between the three characters near what looked like the very beginning of the game, was that all AI talking to each other, ie. a SP game, or was that three players playing in Co Op interacting?

Sharpandpointy
06-11-2018, 04:29 PM
It was three players reading off a script, pretending to be in co-op....

ChiroVette
06-11-2018, 04:48 PM
It was three players reading off a script, pretending to be in co-op....

Ah okay. Then that's of less interest to me. I thought that what I was watching was the player interacting with virtual partners as if they were in Co Op. So I assume then that the main focus of the game will be co op and not SP?

Goo-Goo-Man
06-11-2018, 04:52 PM
So I assume then that the main focus of the game will be co op and not SP?

No I definitely don’t think so. They won’t be making that mistake that Anthem is about to make lol

Sharpandpointy
06-11-2018, 04:53 PM
Likely. Moreso than Division 1. Incursions are the only thing in Division 1 where one really, really can't do very well solo.

If they're making Raids and such that are mandatory 8 people to get them going, that's different.

SevenNVD
06-11-2018, 04:53 PM
My guess it so be similar to
TD1.

Focus is on co-op, but most content will be playable solo.

ChiroVette
06-11-2018, 04:56 PM
My guess it so be similar to
TD1.

Focus is on co-op, but most content will be playable solo.

I never played the first game, so I know next to nothing about it.

SevenNVD
06-11-2018, 04:58 PM
I never played the first game, so I know next to nothing about it.

It's on 80% discount at the moment, and a great game.

Sharpandpointy
06-11-2018, 04:59 PM
I never played the first game, so I know next to nothing about it.

In the first game, you can group with people for the PvE stuff. It would scale (mostly) with the amount of people in the group. One person will tend to get less enemies on the missions and such, compared to four. I play with my wife, mostly, which means 2 person grouping, but I've also done a lot of the content solo, just fine.

There are 4 'Incursions', which are like really long, really intense missions. Those often have specific things that needed to be done whilst fighting off waves of enemies, so they are pretty darned close to impossible to complete solo.

Running Solo in the Dark Zone - the PvEvP area - is certainly possible, but it's also perfectly possible to then get mobbed by a four-person gank squad who really doesn't care that you're a solo (and possibly are more happy to find an easy target).

ChiroVette
06-12-2018, 01:51 PM
In the first game, you can group with people for the PvE stuff. It would scale (mostly) with the amount of people in the group. One person will tend to get less enemies on the missions and such, compared to four. I play with my wife, mostly, which means 2 person grouping, but I've also done a lot of the content solo, just fine.

There are 4 'Incursions', which are like really long, really intense missions. Those often have specific things that needed to be done whilst fighting off waves of enemies, so they are pretty darned close to impossible to complete solo.

Running Solo in the Dark Zone - the PvEvP area - is certainly possible, but it's also perfectly possible to then get mobbed by a four-person gank squad who really doesn't care that you're a solo (and possibly are more happy to find an easy target).

As long as the single player is robust that is my main concern. I am not much of an online player, and I don't see that changing any time soon. The only game that was ever the exception for me was Burnout Paradise.

Sharpandpointy
06-12-2018, 02:06 PM
As long as the single player is robust that is my main concern. I am not much of an online player, and I don't see that changing any time soon. The only game that was ever the exception for me was Burnout Paradise.

Given the current price of 'The Division', you'd be getting good value for your money, I think.