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jagdmailer
03-19-2005, 08:40 AM
Hello,

The 3.05M patch has apparently been in beta testing for at least a couple weeks. That is the one with 2 European maps, the AI Tempest and some other airplanes and that Oleg said would be out towards the end of....February.....

Now, Oleg just said yesterday that they will start testing 4.0M next Monday. So, are we getting 3.05M anyday now and then the next patch 4.0M in a couple of weeks when it is fully tested & which will contain refined/BoB style FM + some other content yet (ie. new ground objects)? If yes, going by track record - this means we would have to wait another 3-4 weeks for any patch if we get 4.0M instead of 3.05M.....

This is getting very confusing though. Can someone in the know clarify at least what is going on ? ie. Are we getting 3.05 at all or a last minute decision has been made by the powers at be to add BoB style FM to 3.05 + a couple other gizmos and repackage it as 4.0 (which is due in a couple weeks again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif) ?

Jagd

jagdmailer
03-19-2005, 08:40 AM
Hello,

The 3.05M patch has apparently been in beta testing for at least a couple weeks. That is the one with 2 European maps, the AI Tempest and some other airplanes and that Oleg said would be out towards the end of....February.....

Now, Oleg just said yesterday that they will start testing 4.0M next Monday. So, are we getting 3.05M anyday now and then the next patch 4.0M in a couple of weeks when it is fully tested & which will contain refined/BoB style FM + some other content yet (ie. new ground objects)? If yes, going by track record - this means we would have to wait another 3-4 weeks for any patch if we get 4.0M instead of 3.05M.....

This is getting very confusing though. Can someone in the know clarify at least what is going on ? ie. Are we getting 3.05 at all or a last minute decision has been made by the powers at be to add BoB style FM to 3.05 + a couple other gizmos and repackage it as 4.0 (which is due in a couple weeks again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif) ?

Jagd

Eraser_tr
03-19-2005, 09:50 AM
my money is on 3.05 is nixed, we will wind up getting 4.0m sometime around june as a payware addon, and will still be missing promised content that will come in an after addon patch we'll wait forever for. if the whole patch, AEP, patch thing was any indication.

Flakenstien
03-19-2005, 09:51 AM
My opinion after reading Olegs post:

"Be happy with what you have now"

jagdmailer
03-19-2005, 10:04 AM
Besides,

That brings another question.....if 4.0M is just over 100MB, where is the elusive Pacific Fighter's missing 3rd CD 5 months after the release of PF ?

Anyhow, I just want to know if we are getting 3.05M at all or if it has been dumped at the last minute in favor of 4.0M which is due in.....2 weeks....??

Jagd

3.JG51_BigBear
03-19-2005, 10:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Flakenstien:
My opinion after reading Olegs post:

"Be happy with what you have now" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Absolutely

canucksledge
03-19-2005, 10:44 AM
Yes, stop saying bad things about Ubisoft! You upset the groupies! After all, apparently only a relative few paid for this game, the rest had it given to them for free out of the goodness of Ubi's marketing department or something...

Blueknight1964
03-19-2005, 10:44 AM
When BOB comes out my response to asking for me to pay for it will be. " Be happy with what you have now "

Blueknight1964
03-19-2005, 10:47 AM
Yes, stop saying bad things about Ubisoft! You upset the groupies! After all, apparently only a relative few paid for this game, the rest had it given to them for free out of the goodness of Ubi's marketing department or something...

Free my eye !! Paid full price....

LEBillfish
03-19-2005, 11:08 AM
Actually I read it as....

Renamed 4.0 from 3.05 as it is so much more then what was owed...Yes owed, as there were aspects missing from PF. Yet much of what we are getting is a response to whines as to FB-AEP items which are NOT owed.....4.0 in the regard you are not only getting older FB-AEP updates, PF owed updates and more, but also BoB level updates to the entire series as far as FM, so actually going beyond PF.

Final testing, beginning Monday....As it has been ongoing my guess and things not promised we have asked for are being added....

Paid Add On?.......No, I personally see it as most likely the "last" 1C update to the IL2FB/AEP/PF series barring bug fixes.....So done, finished.

Past that I believe all you'll see is third party stuff, 1C's efforts to shift fully to BoB.

IMLTHO
(In My Less Then Humble Opinion)

james_ander
03-19-2005, 11:36 AM
The third cd was obviously a falsehood, a fabrication....


A LIE!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

LEBillfish
03-19-2005, 11:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by james_ander:
The third cd was obviously a falsehood, a fabrication....A LIE!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

By who?...I never saw Ubi say it was supplying a third cd....They said they would have needed a third....The third CD myth perpetuated by the mis-informed.

VW-IceFire
03-19-2005, 12:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by james_ander:
The third cd was obviously a falsehood, a fabrication....


A LIE!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You mean the Russian addon? Thats being done by another company with close ties to Maddox Games. We may or may not see it. Nobody lied...you just didn't understand or didn't get the right information to understand what the situation was.

Unless your talking about something else...and I sure haven't heard of it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

sapre
03-19-2005, 03:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LEBillfish:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by james_ander:
The third cd was obviously a falsehood, a fabrication....A LIE!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

By who?...I never saw Ubi say it was supplying a third cd....They said they would have needed a third....The third CD myth perpetuated by the mis-informed. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
"cough" readme "cough"

blairgowrie
03-19-2005, 03:40 PM
I think you are reading it right Billfish.

3.JG51_BigBear
03-19-2005, 04:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blueknight1964:
When BOB comes out my response to asking for me to pay for it will be. " Be happy with what you have now " <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I though he meant this was going to be a mess. That's what I think anyway. Be happy with what you have now because this game is going to be FUBAR before you know it.

Atomic_Marten
03-19-2005, 05:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by james_ander:
The third cd was obviously a falsehood, a fabrication....


A LIE!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You mean the Russian addon? Thats being done by another company with close ties to Maddox Games. We may or may not see it. Nobody lied...you just didn't understand or didn't get the right information to understand what the situation was.

Unless your talking about something else...and I sure haven't heard of it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Some time ago (IIRC around the releasing of PF) there was few threads about how it will be good if Oleg&Co are going to release "pay add-on" for PF. And I presume that is the point where the rumours begin..

I've been here for a long time but never saw anything officialy that would say : "Yes we are going to release pay add-on some time in the future". (Except for Russian CD with Petlyakov). It may be that I overlooked something, but... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Slammin_
03-19-2005, 05:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by canucksledge:
Yes, stop saying bad things about Ubisoft! You upset the groupies! After all, apparently only a relative few paid for this game, the rest had it given to them for free out of the goodness of Ubi's marketing department or something... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Or stole it.

I welcome StarForce and/or whatever that can be done to make sure the developers get their due.

We have fun with their product, but they sweat to create it.

D_River
03-19-2005, 06:50 PM
I would prefer a steam (http://www.steampowered.com/) type interface much much more instead of StarForce.

+ Where´s the CD keys?

JFC_danger
03-19-2005, 06:57 PM
mainly bugfixes?did i read that right? i wait for months in anticipation for"bug fixes" lol actually pmsl.......................

LEBillfish
03-19-2005, 08:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sapre:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LEBillfish:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by james_ander:
The third cd was obviously a falsehood, a fabrication....A LIE!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

By who?...I never saw Ubi say it was supplying a third cd....They said they would have needed a third....The third CD myth perpetuated by the mis-informed. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
"cough" readme "cough" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



Learn to read exactly what the words say, not read into them what you wish.....From the Readme;

"Attention:
We simply ran out of space on our 2 CDs and had to remove some cockpits for
several flyable aircraft. Free add-on containing these aircraft will be made
available at www.pacific-fighters.com (http://www.pacific-fighters.com) for a free download."

Spectre-63
03-19-2005, 08:18 PM
Billfish -

the phrase "simply ran out of space on our 2 CDs" implies that they had them ready and would release them immediately via the website for download - something that's clearly not happened in the 5 months since PF's release. This would make the "third CD" a lie, as James_ander stated.

EnGaurde
03-19-2005, 10:00 PM
meh

much ado about nothing.

i clearly, simply understand whatever will arrive, will arrive when it does.

I aint wastin brain cells and white hair growth on its arrival date, its just not sumthin to obssess about peoples. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

ffs go outside, kick a football around, go have a beer and fawgeddabowdit.

worrying aint hurryin nuthin.

TooMuchCheese
03-20-2005, 05:41 AM
Exactly..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

DarthBane_
03-20-2005, 06:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spectre-63:
Billfish -

the phrase "simply ran out of space on our 2 CDs" implies that they had them ready and would release them immediately via the website for download - something that's clearly not happened in the 5 months since PF's release. This would make the "third CD" a lie, as James_ander stated. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was a stinking lie, and it was clear from the beggining. To be a MAN means to get out in public and say how things stand. Than there is the 1c way to LIE about third disc, and lie about releasing goodies IMIDIETLY after game release. People from 1c, say the thruth, dont LIE that is wrong. And dont tell us about someone beeing sick in your company. To work.

WTE_Gog
03-20-2005, 06:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LEBillfish:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by james_ander:
The third cd was obviously a falsehood, a fabrication....A LIE!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

By who?...I never saw Ubi say it was supplying a third cd....They said they would have needed a third....The third CD myth perpetuated by the mis-informed. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Like **** it was Billfish you tosser, it was stated by Oleg himself! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

LEBillfish
03-20-2005, 10:06 AM
Then post it....Cut and paste from wherever you find it where it said they would be sending out a third disk....Then post a link to it so we can see you simply did not write it...

Please do, patiently waiting...

Billfish

p.s. Think, clear your heads and think..."they're going to "send" everyone a third disk?"....C'mon....I remember seeing it too, the statement was "There was not enough room on the two disks and would have required a third.....So would be added in the subsequent "patch".

Third disk "myth" came from the statement above being twisted, and then became so repeated and incorrectly stated so often, no one ever bothering to "waste" their time correcting it that you all take it now as fact.

So post it....Show where it says you all were getting a third disk....Prove me wrong, that simple. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

WTE_Gog
03-20-2005, 11:42 AM
They never did say they were 'going to send out a third disk' mate, but they did say they they planned to have the game on 3 disks but Ubi stopped them, which implies that there was a whole disk worth of stuff that was dropped out, therefore it should have been ready for immediate release after the games release (taking a breath)....that's the point of this particular argument.
Oleg himself stated that they had the 3 rd disk contents ready so where did it go??

LEBillfish
03-20-2005, 11:57 AM
Ahhh...well that is quite different then isn't it so as i said......Would be supplied in the subsequent patch.

Now, as you're trying to state "what would have required a third disk" was "stated" by Ubi/1c as being ready and finished a patch to be made available immediatedly.....Yes, that was untrue.

However, we all know that, we all know why (pushed to be released before ready to make christmas sales) and has been hashed out easily in a hundred threads if not thousands. It wasn't done/ready period....and has taken this long to get done....

To also appease the torch burning masses extra non owed items are being included.....Hence not 3.05 but 4.00...(as I stated in my first post).

So I guess it boils down to this, be glad you're finally getting it and some extra's and move off this stupid tired topic that is so exausted it doesn't even groan when worked over any more........Or, teach Ubi/1c a lesson. Snap your CD's in two, clear your hard drives and vow to never fly a IL2 series sim again, that will teach them!!

Me?...I'll be downloading the patch excitedly and flying it A.S.A.P......But then again, I don't sweat that which I can do nothing about...Go figure.

VMF-214_HaVoK
03-20-2005, 01:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blueknight1964:
When BOB comes out my response to asking for me to pay for it will be. " Be happy with what you have now " <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

BoB will not be out untill 2008. You have plenty of time before you start to worry about that.

p1ngu666
03-20-2005, 02:35 PM
why does everyone assume a 3rd cd would be full?
maybe only 200-300meg...

james_ander
03-20-2005, 07:31 PM
Just to be clear, I actually like Pacific Fighters and the whole IL2 series. I got my $39.99 or whatever's worth out of Pacific Fighters ages ago.

And I think 1c Maddox treats it's customers extremely well and supports it games much better than most.

So I'm not like howling for a pint of Oleg's blood or anything 'cause some POS plane or somebody's house on Iwa Jima is missing or whatever.

But c'mon, the third CD thing was just total BS. Everybody knows that.

Revolter_
03-20-2005, 08:01 PM
Way to go LEBillfish !!!

You are right on every count regardless of what the puny whiner/doom sayers yell about.
Thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bearcat99
03-20-2005, 10:53 PM
LEB you are indeed correct..... not having enough room on 2 CDs for all content and promising a 3rd CD are two different things. P1ngu hit it on the head too..... who said all the other stuff would even fill a 3rd CD... CD1 is 674 MB.. CD2 is 698 MB.... For all we know they had to stall the release because of the whole copyright thing.... for all we l=know some of the stuff not here was already done.. (granted the betty wasnt finished yet) but couldnt be included for other reasons..... all this posturing and name calling and BS.. like the nonsense coming from Bane.... is just so friggin ridiculous. I cant help but wonder how many of these guys who cry the loudest about this series and PF in particular managed to survive CFS3 at all.... you would think being such sticklers for not getting cheated and all that tey might have all had strokes by now or something. Some of the folks in this community are real pieces of work Ill tell ya.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

WTE_Gog
03-21-2005, 01:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Some of the folks in this community are real pieces of work Ill tell ya.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, but we add a bit of spice to your days! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

p1ngu666
03-21-2005, 12:17 PM
well, i know some things where done which we are really unlikely toget, think f4f floatplane was one of them... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

personaly, i hope we get betty, and some japanease fighters in the next patch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

but im happy for anything, and ill fly anything, japanease aircraft i find interesting http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif. RAF and italians will be fleshed out too, so looking good for my plane**** sen http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

EnGaurde
03-21-2005, 05:14 PM
those pieces of work you mentioned....

i had a revelation the other day.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

i truly, seriously think the worst complainers and those that obssess over such unimportant details are the incredibly small minority that always has the loudest voice.

this isnt an insult, im not trying to add further petty worthless crud to this already mountainous pile, but the deathly seriousness of all this complaining makes me try to picture those that would push it the furthest.

im picturing two kinds of people: body odoured, Coke drinking, fast food eating, lightless room dwelling people with obscure cult movie posters all over their walls, whom actively try to stay out of direct sunlight and to which the passing of day and night has no meaning. Their lives exist purely thru their computer screen, indeed such shortcomings as no Betty would be as if teeth had been snapped off with ice cold pliers. It would literally cause physical pain. They have been cheated, they know there are no consequences for aiming all manner of insult and slander online, they keep these threads reappearing.

The other type, is a catalyst to the first. Enjoys the mayhem the first type of people provide with nothing more than a sly jab or provocation. They provoke, then sit back and watch with glee.

either way, we have two very strange types of people contributing to these threads. Yet mods dont squash them, like i believe they should after a few posts when it all starts going down the same track yet again?

Hmmm i wonder which type i am... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

AnalFissure
03-22-2005, 08:57 PM
Speaking as someone who actually considered the promised free planes when making the decision to purchase FB, and also as someone who is unsure if even a single free plane aside from the I-185 has been released since then -- I am not holding my breath.

Wasn't the JU-88 supposed to be released for the original IL-2? We going to be seeing that anytime soon?