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Mnightscare
03-20-2008, 08:01 AM
I'm not sure if you guys know the story behind the name "Hashashin"..

Hashish means weed (as in Cannabis, marijuana) in Arabic.

There was this group of people who'd smoke and get high before they went out Assasinating/stealing/robbing, etc..

Thus they were called the "Hashashin", in Arabic it means "those who are high on Hashish".


so, in this game we follow Altair, a member of the Hashashin sect, however, the most important element, the WEED, is not in the game!!..
wtf?!?..

before the game came out, I always thought that an element would be that you have to collect cannabis plants, and smoke some weed before each mission.. I know it sounds crazy, but historically, that's what the Hashashin did!..

I don't see why they would leave something like that out.. I mean, don't say it's for censorship reasons, because this is a game all about KILLING people..

Mnightscare
03-20-2008, 08:01 AM
I'm not sure if you guys know the story behind the name "Hashashin"..

Hashish means weed (as in Cannabis, marijuana) in Arabic.

There was this group of people who'd smoke and get high before they went out Assasinating/stealing/robbing, etc..

Thus they were called the "Hashashin", in Arabic it means "those who are high on Hashish".


so, in this game we follow Altair, a member of the Hashashin sect, however, the most important element, the WEED, is not in the game!!..
wtf?!?..

before the game came out, I always thought that an element would be that you have to collect cannabis plants, and smoke some weed before each mission.. I know it sounds crazy, but historically, that's what the Hashashin did!..

I don't see why they would leave something like that out.. I mean, don't say it's for censorship reasons, because this is a game all about KILLING people..

kew414
03-20-2008, 08:44 AM
I lol'ed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

If you can't play a game without thinking "this needs weed" you got a problem http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Though, it would be enternaining playing as a high assassin http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Robbinho1992
03-20-2008, 09:04 AM
It says at the start that it wasnt going to be totally historically correct. They are Hashashins, but the ones that didn't take drugs, or maybe they did.


I don't think it that big of a thing. Plus maybe ebcuase if Altair did take weed, he lsot that bit of memory in his dna which Desmond dint inheriate. Remember your playing as Desmonds Memory, not ALtair himself.

P.S. Desmond rules.

BTOG46
03-20-2008, 09:10 AM
I wonder how long it will be before our Arab forum members point out the real history of the assassins to Mnightscare, and not just the popular myth spread by their enemies......... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

moqqy
03-20-2008, 10:22 AM
The assassins didn't smoke weed or take any other drugs.

"I know it sounds crazy, but historically, that's what the Hashashin did!.."

No, they didn't

Mnightscare
03-20-2008, 11:11 AM
I appologize for speaking out of Ignorance.

I did some reading about the Hashashin, and found out it's only a name given to them by their enemies.


This was all the fault of my history teacher 4 years ago. lol.. He was telling us where the word Assassin came from, and said it was originally a group of muslim bandits and murderers. I argued with him, because he said it in a negative tone, almost as if he was trying to stain the name of Islam.

so the next day he brought me a quote from the oxford english dictionary, where it said that the word assassin orignially derived from a group of arabic bandits known as the Hashashin..


so I just took the dictionaries word for it..
I feel like calling my teacher and owning him now.

oh well.. sorry for the confusion anyway.

BTOG46
03-20-2008, 11:16 AM
You have the good grace to acknowledge your mistake, and for that I believe you deserve our respect. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

blarson11
03-20-2008, 02:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kew414:
I lol'ed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

If you can't play a game without thinking "this needs weed" you got a problem http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Though, it would be enternaining playing as a high assassin http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

it is very entertaining, but kind of confusing...http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

cooldude6681
03-20-2008, 02:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BTOG46:
You have the good grace to acknowledge your mistake, and for that I believe you deserve our respect. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif Absolutely.

membernametaken
03-20-2008, 02:57 PM
What do you think Altair was doing before he'd go and assassinate? You think he was sleeping on that rug?

People today still go into hash huts and smoke, then fall asleep on rugs...

Altair is a pothead.

*runs off*

moqqy
03-20-2008, 05:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BTOG46:
You have the good grace to acknowledge your mistake, and for that I believe you deserve our respect. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Oh, great. Why didn't he argue that the assassins were potheads? That would have been so much more fun. Haven't had one of those in ages http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

kew414
03-20-2008, 05:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">You have the good grace to acknowledge your mistake, and for that I believe you deserve our respect. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
He wasn't completely wrong though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
It is believed a fair bit that they did smoke weed before assassinating http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I just didn't like how obsessed he seemed with the weed http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

moqqy
03-21-2008, 03:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kew414:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">You have the good grace to acknowledge your mistake, and for that I believe you deserve our respect. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
He wasn't completely wrong though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
It is believed a fair bit that they did smoke weed before assassinating http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I just didn't like how obsessed he seemed with the weed http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
He was completely wrong. It isn't believed a fair bit that they did smoke weed before assassinating. Unless you believe Marco Polo... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Mnightscare
03-21-2008, 06:49 AM
moqqy is right.


The hashish part is only a myth recorded by Marco Polo who supposedly visited their Stronghold ca 20 years AFTER it was destroyed by the mongols..

Also, if you read Marco polo's story, you'd see it's very mythical in nature and borderline surreal. It's obvious that the story stems from rumors spread by the Asassins' enemies in an attempt on discrediting their ideals and making them look like a bunch of lunatics in the eyes of commoners.

The last thing these Arabic Lords and Kings (whom the Assassins opposed) needed at the time was for the assassins to gain support from the people, because that would mean the end of their (the lords and kings) dynasties. They wanted the Assassins to look like a bunch of inhuman monsters, instead of justice seekers.

moqqy
03-21-2008, 07:16 AM
Doh, obviously I'm right