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ht-57
05-31-2007, 06:09 PM
Can you check your six with Track IR?
I have gotten "freelook" to work reasonably well but I can't get it to pan past my 4 0'clock with out having to bump it over with my hat on my stick,then I have to recenter my view manually. By that time its game over.

ht-57
05-31-2007, 06:09 PM
Can you check your six with Track IR?
I have gotten "freelook" to work reasonably well but I can't get it to pan past my 4 0'clock with out having to bump it over with my hat on my stick,then I have to recenter my view manually. By that time its game over.

BrotherVoodoo
05-31-2007, 06:52 PM
Yes, you can check your six. You can look "naturally" inside of the cockpit just by turning your head. If you get TIR you will not regret it. After you get used to it you most likley will never fly without it. IMO it's the best addition to virtual flying since the joystick.

badaboom.1
05-31-2007, 07:46 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gifWhat he said. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Viper2005_
05-31-2007, 07:57 PM
TIR = the best peripheral I've ever bought. It is now a go/no go item for me when flying online.

mbfRoy
05-31-2007, 08:11 PM
If you want a cheap, working alternative have a look at "FreeTrack", I just built a crappy 4 IR-LEDs hat and it works very, very well. In fact I was quite shocked, I wasn't expecting it to behave so smooth at all!

na85
05-31-2007, 08:22 PM
From what I've gleaned from various postings, imagine a large pencil extends from the tip of your nose to your monitor.

Now trace the outside edges of your screen with the pencil.

That is how far you have to turn your head to look ALL the way around, not just to your 4:00

Darrall
05-31-2007, 11:13 PM
With TrackIr you can change the settings so a little movement will look at your six or the seat back anyway. Up to you how much you want to move your head. The best thing for flight Sims, love it.

tagTaken2
06-01-2007, 02:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by na85:
From what I've gleaned from various postings, imagine a large pencil extends from the tip of your nose to your monitor.

Now trace the outside edges of your screen with the pencil.

That is how far you have to turn your head to look ALL the way around, not just to your 4:00 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It depends on your settings.

My TIR is setup quite fast- I'm lazy. But imagine this:
Look at the centre of your screen. Now move your nose half an inch to the left. You're now looking over your left shoulder. That's my setup.

I'm currently messing about with BoB:WoV. It has 6dof, and god, I wish we had it in Il-2. I can make a real (not guessed!) deflection kill!

rnzoli
06-01-2007, 05:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ht-57:
Can you check your six with Track IR?
I have gotten "freelook" to work reasonably well but I can't get it to pan past my 4 0'clock </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I had the same problem, and it was damn annoying plus dangerous too. But the solution was easy. In the configuration file, there is a place where you set your screen size. Make sure you set it larger than your screen size, so that you have sufficient margins for checking your 6, even when Freelook slightly decentered already. Since I changed this in the profile I am using, I never have problem with checking 6 anymore with Freelook.


IIRC these values are the ones that I had to change in my profile (.fl) file:
maxx =
maxyup =
maxydown =

TgD Thunderbolt56
06-01-2007, 06:33 AM
I can see more of my 6 using TIR by toggling the wide-angle view at the same time (I have my views on a hatswitch on my throttle).

Bottom line is, do yourself a favor...GET TIR!

You won't regret it.


TB

Blood_Splat
06-01-2007, 07:09 AM
TIR is like life blood a must.

T_O_A_D
06-01-2007, 07:18 AM
Take a look at my sig, on Track IR.

I have TIR3pro but I hear TIR4 is even better, and has more options for tracking aswell.

But my old info in that link in my sig will open your eyes to TIR.

ht-57
06-01-2007, 08:25 AM
Thank you Rnzoli,
That did it. Here's one more for you.
When I turn my head back to center view it seems to lock on the center...when it does,the picture jumps or flashes for a split sec. This has been the case since I started experimenting with "freelook"
Any way to "smooth" that out if you will?

rnzoli
06-01-2007, 09:27 AM
Hmm, I think that can be avoided by reducing the deadzone (is it a little blue area in the middle?) to the absolute minimum.
It is not possible to avoid it completely, but the "jumps" become minimal.
If you are willing to experiment more, look for posts by a guy called InADaze, he put up some very helpful tip on combining Freelook and NewView and smooth the view even further.

On the other hand, I agree that TIR is more hassle-free, so if you have the top dollars in your wallet, invest into one NOW.

Earlier I was thinking that I will wait with BoB and then buy one, but since I probably won't buy BoB anyway with its initial release, and nowadays a free utility is available for 6DOF tracking, I might not buy TrackIR at all, no matter what its fanbois say http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BrotherVoodoo
06-01-2007, 06:03 PM
I don't have a dead space in my TIR3pro, smooth all the way through for me. I have the option of setting a dead zone if I prefered. I have to re-center at the begining of every mission and it's good to go through the rest of the flight. I used to use freelook and I was always resetting it, I hated the deadzone. It never worked well enough for me to enjoy it. If you have the $$ TIR is the way to go IMO.

Trouble_Call
06-01-2007, 11:39 PM
I never leave home without it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

SeaVee
06-02-2007, 06:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BrotherVoodoo:
Yes, you can check your six. You can look "naturally" inside of the cockpit just by turning your head. If you get TIR you will not regret it. After you get used to it you most likley will never fly without it. IMO it's the best addition to virtual flying since the joystick. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

See TIR in action HERE (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2051208934938168866&hl=en)

and ANOTHER TIR CLIP (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3888866243525949539)

As others have said, mimimal movement of the results in large "movement" on the screen and its very adjustable to suit one's taste. I will NEVER fly a flight sim again that does not support TIR now. As indispensible as the joystick.

Iceman_AFS
06-02-2007, 09:39 AM
I've build a FreeTrack system as well but cant get it to work.I've downloaded the "Binaries" file and installed it(Do i need someting else?).When i open the program now,i can see the 3D head moving in the setup screen.But when i launch a game and i try to move my head around nothing happens.I tried it in Lomac,IL2 1946,FS9 and in F4RedViper without any success.In the readme file was something mentioned about the registry,so if someone could give me a short step by step install guide and where to put what files exactly i would really appreciate ithttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thanks
(Sorry for my bad english)