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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 04:50 PM
Check this Baby Out

http://www.noonco.com/flyer/video.htm

A snip at $10,000 thought looks like a larf.

Walt Noon seems to have also invented a new
way of moving about.

He also seems a little on the large side for his
invention.

Anyone got a disposable income and wants to buy it
for me go right ahead.


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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 04:50 PM
Check this Baby Out

http://www.noonco.com/flyer/video.htm

A snip at $10,000 thought looks like a larf.

Walt Noon seems to have also invented a new
way of moving about.

He also seems a little on the large side for his
invention.

Anyone got a disposable income and wants to buy it
for me go right ahead.


Ruski


Gesamt Kunstwerk!!!!

XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 05:21 PM
185 degrees of motion... amazing!

I want one /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 05:28 PM
I'd like to know how it interfaces with sims. My guess is the sim they're using is proprietary...

In a few years I'll have one of those... When they don't cost so much...



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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 08:38 PM
I think that tilting and whirling around like that would make me quite sick... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 08:49 PM
rcorporon wrote:
- I think that tilting and whirling around like that
- would make me quite sick...

hey, that's flight for ya! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 09:22 PM
Dexmeister wrote:
- I'd like to know how it interfaces with sims. My
- guess is the sim they're using is proprietary...
-
- In a few years I'll have one of those... When they
- don't cost so much...
-
-

Microsofts' sims work, as well as Flightgear and X-plane.

The demo videos appear to be running CFS3. That is a damned shame, if you ask me. Considering the high fidelety nature of FB's FM, with hardware like this, a real pilot could quickly dedtermine if a FM is correct or not (even without G-forces).

I'd buy one, if it can be had for $1,000 (without stick/ ruder/ visuals/ computer).


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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 11:09 PM
I guess you would've second thoughts before making dive attacks in your STUKA with that thing http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 11:15 PM
Just a quick note to anyone whos interests fall under the category of "motion sims"....

The first version of his platform did not read from the sim. Instead it read from the joystick. I don't know if his newest offering does the same, but if youre interested in a low-cost way of translating joystick deflection into motion, try this link:

http://www.j-omega.co.uk/servo.html

This will work with any sim that uses a game-port joystick. ANY game. The only problem is you have to use a bit of logic conditioning to make everything perfectly match what is seen on the screen (in other words, it does not represent the programers FM, but comes close enough to be fun).

Reading from the game software will always net better results.

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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 11:31 PM
Interesting device...I have been reading up on x-plane (and playing the demo 6 minutes at a time - silly timeout...) and I think that you can apply x-plane to most motion simulators. In fact, their webpage claims that their software has received certification for FAA training purposes (ie you can log actual simulator hours with this sim)....what's the catch you ask? ...well, you need the $79.99 software package AND the $150,000 simulator platform AND an instructor.

Pretty neat though, IMO....

Check it out for yourself!

http://www.x-plane.com

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 12:19 AM
Hardware wise it looks like something that some of us can do if we like to work with compressors, hydraulics and gears. Many parts seen on the machine can be bought for less than US$1,000 and that includes the compressor and engine lift that is shown. NOW, electronics and software to make it work with any sim or at least IL2:FB is something else that may cost time and an additional couple hundred bucks if you like to work with programming and electronics. It's not impossible but this guy had the idea and made it reality which he deserves to sell to compensate his investment.



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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 12:32 AM
imagine a barrel roll in something like that. i guess it doesn't rotate that much though.

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 01:19 AM
the thing about a motion platform is that sometimes its not worth the added cost. if you build a non motion cockpit and enclose it so that you have absolutly no refrence outside then you can trick your brain into thinking your going inverted and doing loops etc, and in turn youll feel like you are. you cant have any refrence to the outside world at all though. not even light as your brain will then know that your actually stationary.

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 01:30 AM
Still unfortunately other than accelerated movements it doesn't give you the true centrepetal force of flying an aircraft, or driving a car for that matter.

http://www.redspar.com/redrogue/CraggerUbisig.jpg

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 02:07 AM
Wow, nice bit of kit.

Drastic way to cut out drink and flying in the sim world though.

XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 04:46 AM
Cragger wrote:
- Still unfortunately other than accelerated movements
- it doesn't give you the true centrepetal force of
- flying an aircraft, or driving a car for that
- matter.
-

Thats like saying: Making babies doesn't give me the true feeling of being a supreme deity.

Add fun to your diet.

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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 05:14 AM
steve5539 wrote:
- Wow, nice bit of kit.
-
- Drastic way to cut out drink and flying in the sim
- world though.

LOL. Very true.