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WernherVonTrapp
06-02-2011, 08:08 AM
A rare tornado in the NE struck Springfield, Mass killing 4 people. Look at the water in this vid as it's drawn into the vortex. You'll also see a car take flight: http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

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WernherVonTrapp
06-02-2011, 08:08 AM
A rare tornado in the NE struck Springfield, Mass killing 4 people. Look at the water in this vid as it's drawn into the vortex. You'll also see a car take flight: http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

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Celeon999
06-02-2011, 12:40 PM
Wow, it seems that Tornado season is really earning its name this year.

How long does it usually last and whats the average amount of Tornados spawned in one ?

cmdrmoosicvs
06-02-2011, 02:04 PM
Cel, they usually travel at about 35 MPH and can go a long ways, miles. It's not uncommon for several to spawn and lay waste to whatever is in their path..Take it from me, I survived several and it isn't a desirable thing to experience. One thing I loved about living in Germany was that in the two years I was there, not one time did I hear of a tornado there, not to say you don't get them, just not when I was there.

MWolfe1963
06-02-2011, 02:11 PM
Fairly amazing watching it suck in the water.

Yea, I've seen and been in enough that I hope I never see another, why interesting, just too painful.

What a year for them, probably the worse in NC ever. Seems lately they hit in cities.

Celeon999
06-02-2011, 02:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cmdrmoosicvs:
Cel, they usually travel at about 35 MPH and can go a long ways, miles. It's not uncommon for several to spawn and lay waste to whatever is in their path..Take it from me, I survived several and it isn't a desirable thing to experience. One thing I loved about living in Germany was that in the two years I was there, not one time did I hear of a tornado there, not to say you don't get them, just not when I was there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Some regions here indeed had some over the recent years but only "small" ones which did little damage. A few houses loosing their roofs , a smashed car here and there. No dead or injured.

Nothing compared to the damage happening in the USA.

fireftr18
06-02-2011, 04:47 PM
Celeon, the area north of The Gulf of Mexico from about the Mississipi river to the foot hills of the the Rocky Mountains is called Tornado Alley. More tornadoes spawn in that area in a years time than the rest of the world combined. The season starts in the spring and ends in the fall. The combination of winds developing from the Rocky mountains and the moisture from the Gulf cause it. Those of us that live between the Mississipi river and the Smoky Mountains are not considered part of Tornado Alley, but we do see tornadoes on a regular basis. Anyone who lives there and notices a mistake in my explanation, please correct me, I wrote it from memory.

WernherVonTrapp
06-02-2011, 05:20 PM
I don't know why, but I've always had a fascination with tornadoes. I've since amassed a small collection of DVD documentaries about them. Here in NJ this past year, we've had a few "Tornado Watches or Warnings" but nothing came of it. We usually get at least 1, somewhere in NJ every year but it never amounts to anything beyond an EF-1 category.

These past few years have seen stronger category tornadoes reaching into northern areas not normally affected by the strong ones. I'm no expert but, that Springfield tornado looked to be consistent with an EF-3 (138-167mph or better) category.
Those cars weren't just blown around. They were being sucked up into it. Tornadoes can occur (and allegedly have occurred) almost anywhere in the world. According to more than one of my documentaries, of the (usually) 1000 (or so) tornadoes that touch down in the world each year, 99% of those occur in the U.S.. Take that number, narrow it down to Tornado Alley and you have 99% of all U.S. tornadoes occurring there.

The warm, moist, air from the Gulf of Mexico collides with the cold, dry, air from the Rocky Mountains to form unique weather patterns found nowhere else on the planet. Tornadoes can last anywhere (and usually) from a matter of minutes to almost an hour (in a smaller number of cases). The stronger the category, the longer they usually last but, since they are one of the most unpredictable of storm systems, there's no real set standard.

The legendary Tri-State Tornado of 1925 is alleged to have been on the ground in one continuous path for well over an hour and a half, traveling at approximately 67 mph at it's fastest. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

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MWolfe1963
06-03-2011, 07:49 AM
You and me both Wern, cept maybe mine is more a phobia with the fascination. I can watch video all day. Have you seen the recent "Tornado Rampage 2011" on Discovery?

What was strange is when I was about 12 a small tornado hit our hood. I saw it and ran. It was probably small, but picked up our outbuilding along with the neighbors who was a school baseball coach. We actually found ballbats a yard away forced into the ground. What was strange before we moved there another small tornado hit the exact same spot. Course we got on the local news.

Since then I've seen 3, one destroyed my barn as I lay in a stall in the late 80's, but that was night.

I dream about them constantly, so much so it started concerning me, like I needed to prepare, maybe just a phobia, but I bought a tornado cabinet years ago.

With the climate change many scientist predict tornado alley will shift some more east and north. Actually some of the worse tornadoes have hit outside tornado alley.

WernherVonTrapp
06-03-2011, 08:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MWolfe1963:
I dream about them constantly, so much so it started concerning me, like I needed to prepare, maybe just a phobia, but I bought a tornado cabinet years ago.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>Now, that's interesting because, I had dreams about them since childhood, though not as frequently now as I did back then. Funny thing is, just days before the Tuscaloosa tornado, I started having the tornado dreams again after years of not having any. I'm not trying to say that there is any correlation here, it's just a matter of fact.

The only encounter with a tornado that I ever had was when I lived in Sussex, NJ. A tornado had been spotted on the ground in a neighboring town (forgot the town name) and it was just beginning to get dark. Warnings came over radio and TV but, I was already preparing to run to a local store. I reassured my wife that I would be OK and back soon. I drove off in my pickup truck and as I reached the halfway point, dusk had turned to darkness, mostly because of the approaching storm. It was then that I realized my chosen route of travel had taken me closer to the location where the tornado had been sighted.
As soon as I turned in the opposite direction (a natural course change for my destination), I was enveloped by heavy winds and horizontal rain. Nothing strong enough to affect my contact with the road surface but, I did see a small tree (almost hovering) as it crossed the roadway a few car lengths in front of me.
I never saw anything to indicate a funnel or vortex (too dark) but, I do think I may have driven through some RFD.

Many years ago, one touched down near my aunt's house in Ringwood, NJ. It cut a clear path through the nearby forest, felling trees in a fashion that was similar to wedge cutting through it. A 50' wide path was cleared with all the surrounding trees laying flat and pointing away from the center of the path. It only touched down for about 1/10 of a mile, since that was how long the felled trees extended.

Anyway, the Dakotas have been seeing some monsters lately. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://www.tornadochaser.net/tornadoalley.jpg

http://content3.jason.org/resource_content/content/image/181/Tornado_Alley.jpg

MWolfe1963
06-03-2011, 02:57 PM
It's the ones I didn't see that scared me, the others were far enough away. The one that tore my barn apart scared the crap out of me. I don't know what was worse, laying in a stall with a horse going nuts or the tornado. It took out some sheds and killed several cows. What amazed me is when it hit the woods it cleared 100 wide path shredding large trees like toothpicks. It was listed as a F3.

My dreams are wierd, usually involve places I grew up as a child and many tornadoes. I can sometime have several dreams a week.

My biggest fear is when the Stoneville tornado hit near my daughters school. Strange it started near Stoneville, tore up the town where her school was, it ended about 15 miles away just 1//4 mile where my baby son then was in daycare...just missed both my kids.

WernherVonTrapp
06-03-2011, 03:15 PM
I couldn't even imagine having to worry about that. I mean, tornadoes harming my children. No great loss to this world if I die but, God only knows what gifts lie inside the minds of my children. I worry more about drive-by shootings than I do tornadoes. Things have been getting really bad here in Jersey, especially in the last 10 years.
I did a search for Jersey tornadoes on YouTube. It seems we've had a lot more here than I first thought and, much stronger than an EF-1. An EF-3 touched down in Sussex County back in 2009, though the one I encountered there was about 10 years earlier.

MWolfe1963
06-03-2011, 04:24 PM
I was talking to a cop the other day in Winston and he said crime has really increased with the downturn economy, I guess you're seeing some of that there.

With new numbers out, looks like things are getting worse for the economy.

Celeon999
06-26-2011, 09:09 AM
Video of a tornado in the state of Thuringia, Germany

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Here is a bigger one in the state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Happens very very rarely here.

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WernherVonTrapp
06-27-2011, 05:05 AM
Celeon, that's quite a wedge in the second vid and what clearly looks like a wall cloud adjacent to it. That could've been an EF2/3 easily. The rope in the first vid is pretty impressive too. Both are reminiscent of the types here in the States. I recall, maybe in the past 10 years, a London tornado that made some world headlines as it sheared the roofs off some row houses there.

@MWolfe:
Sorry I missed your last reply. Yeah, the current economy has been cause (from my perspective) for some types of crimes around here too. Mostly thefts and B&Es. There's been quite an increase in pharmacy B&Es and/or robberies. Many of the robberies have been of the "strong arm" types. I can't wait to retire. A lot more youths are becoming involved in crimes, like I've never seen before. We've always had juvenile incidents around these parts (like anywhere else) but their levels of violence have been steadily (and quite obviously) increasing. It's a real concern. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif