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AztekWrath
07-08-2004, 05:02 AM
Anybody can describe waht the chendelle manuovre looks like and how to do it?

AztekWrath
07-08-2004, 05:02 AM
Anybody can describe waht the chendelle manuovre looks like and how to do it?

SUPERAEREO
07-08-2004, 05:08 AM
Chandelle: Reversal of course by a sharp climbing turn.

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yarbles67
07-08-2004, 06:05 AM
I use that move to bleed off lots of speed prior to landing. If I don't do this, then I have to make a landing approaching in straight line starting 10 km before the base.

Capt._Tenneal
07-08-2004, 07:20 AM
Watch the training track in the game called " IL-2 Introduction " it's a fairly lengthy track that goes through different flight maneuvers and the chandelle is one of them. The Russians called it " boevoy razvorot " (sp ?) .

ddsflyer
07-08-2004, 12:48 PM
Maximum performance climbing turn resulting in reversal of direction, maximum altitude gain and finishing just above stall speed. This is a manuever required for a US commercial pilot's license.

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AztekWrath
07-08-2004, 03:17 PM
Sorry lads, but I still don't get it... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

LStarosta
07-08-2004, 03:33 PM
Watch the intro track then.

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JG7_Rall
07-08-2004, 03:34 PM
Are you kidding?

You Turn somewhere between a flat out turn and a flat out verticle climb. And you finish going the other way.

Like WEEEEEEEEEE im turning and climbing WEEEE im going the other way now!

Get it?

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kikka-01
07-08-2004, 03:41 PM
Difference between this and an Immelmann(sp?)?

BinaryFalcon
07-08-2004, 03:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kikka-01:
Difference between this and an Immelmann(sp?)?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Severity, mostly. Immelmann puts you basically going straight up, pull over the top (upside down) and the rolling upright again in the new direction.

The object of a chandelle, as ddsflyer said, is a max performance turn (180 degrees) that should have you finishing 180 degrees of turn, reaching peak altitude, and leave you just above the stall speed all at the same time (having never banked more than about 30 degrees). Personally I found it easier to manage than a lazy eight, and contrary to what you might expect, both maneuvers (chandelle and lazy eight) are most easily and accurately accomplished without once looking at the instruments. Head up and by the seat of your pants will pretty much nail it every time.

Flightvector
07-08-2004, 05:54 PM
If any of you want to learn everything about how aircraft fly and and flight tendencies, and actually get information that is actually accurate and not a bunch of false information that sounds correct, go here (Literally the best aviation knowledge site I have ever come across): http://www.av8n.com/how/

If you want info on the Chandelle, go here: http://www.av8n.com/how/htm/maneuver.html#sec-chandelle

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heywooood
07-08-2004, 06:17 PM
For another really good example of both manoevers - see 'The Dawn Patrol' with Errol Flynn... the Immelman turns are performed as a snap manoever, a violent pull up vertical - snap over backwards and snap roll upright. The Chandelles are also made as rapidly as possible.. to evade an enemy A/C diving down on your six...wait until he is about to fire, then wrap up and around scrubbing airspeed and foiling his solution...then as he speeds down and away you either drop inside his turn and accelerate for a shot at him or evade and extend home.



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LeadSpitter_
07-08-2004, 06:21 PM
This site has some basic manuevers, you can also look on aerobatic aircraft websites which show alot more complex manuevers alot of which were used in combat. And then others that are just for show but nice for formation displays if your into that skill level.

http://www.artjunky.com/phantomfighters/training_detail01.asp?TrainCatID=1

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JV44_Wubke
07-08-2004, 06:52 PM
http://www.jagdverband44.com/Tactics%20-%20Combat.html

Here are some diagrams from our website

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