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zuiho
07-28-2004, 03:31 AM
I' ve read that, specially in the first years of war, u-boat commanders sink disarmed and isolated merchant ships with destruction charges placed by boarding party. This can be modelled in the sim? It will be an exciting way to sink a ship and to preserve torps.

zuiho
07-28-2004, 03:31 AM
I' ve read that, specially in the first years of war, u-boat commanders sink disarmed and isolated merchant ships with destruction charges placed by boarding party. This can be modelled in the sim? It will be an exciting way to sink a ship and to preserve torps.

Redwine
07-28-2004, 07:23 AM
That was true, they used demolition bombs to save torps, but i think so, it may be hard or complex to be modellated..........

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negus1
07-28-2004, 07:31 AM
Unlike in WWI the boarding of merchant ships was very, very rare. Only few cases are reported mainly with regard to "neutral" ships. In most situations it was much too dangerous for the u-boat because of possible air attacks and ... Q-ships.

Therefore it is not necessary to show it in SHIII. (althought we would have a good reason for implementation of lifeboats http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif)

"Negus 1 an alle kleinen Brüder, wir greifen an! Kameraden, dicht aufschließen zum Sturmangriff! Die Begleitgruppe aufpassen auf Indianer. Wir machen Pauke, Pauke; nur die Ruhe, Kameraden, alles mir nach!"
Maj. Dahl JG 300

Redwine
07-28-2004, 08:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by negus1:
Unlike in WWI the boarding of merchant ships was very, very rare. Only few cases are reported mainly with regard to "neutral" ships. In most situations it was much too dangerous for the u-boat because of possible air attacks and ... Q-ships.

Therefore it is not necessary to show it in SHIII. (althought we would have a good reason for implementation of lifeboats http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif)

"Negus 1 an alle kleinen Brüder, wir greifen an! Kameraden, dicht aufschließen zum Sturmangriff! Die Begleitgruppe aufpassen auf Indianer. Wir machen Pauke, Pauke; nur die Ruhe, Kameraden, alles mir nach!"
Maj. Dahl JG 300<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yes..... was not common on WW2 due to english "trap ships" but happens some times ......

I remember one situation, Kpt. Kretschemr stops a merchant, the Merisaar, from Stonia, and send a boat to put sclutter bombs........

Finally he do not put the bombs, due to there was 7 women onboard.......... he orders the sailors of the Merisaar, to let the life boats and go into the ship another time and continue travel..............

Incredible but real, really a knight of the sea.............

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TASKFORCE1x1
07-28-2004, 08:23 AM
Good idea but I'll never take that kind of chance incase aircraft or a DE is near by. Could be a trap too. I would tell everyone on their vessel to board LIFEBOATS (did I say that too loud lol http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif ) and have one of their men stay behind on their ship and have them scuttle the ship. If he doesnt he can expect his entire crew on board the lifeboats to meet their maker. Also I would make it known that any attempt to radio for help while he is aboard scuttling his ship would mean the same fate for his crew. Have a nice day. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Xanthippus
07-28-2004, 08:37 AM
It would be an interesting feature, i.e. take some additional risks to save some torp's or just cut straight to the chase. Yet, overall it would most likely just be abused, i can easily imagine people aiming to come back with 300,000+ tons patrols simply through using this action/their torp's.

So best to leave it out.

Pito_1st
07-28-2004, 08:56 AM
As far as I know, this method was practised mostly by raiders (f.e. Atlantis) or maybe smaler battleships. After they checked and potentially transfered usable cargo / whiskey http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif / from the stopped ship, they sunk her by the explosives. I wouldn't need this option in SH3. If I could choose, I'd rather have option to take survivors from liferafts on my board.
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LPV
07-28-2004, 07:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pito_1st:
As far as I know, this method was practised mostly by raiders (f.e. Atlantis) or maybe smaler battleships. After they checked and potentially transfered usable cargo / whiskey http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif / from the stopped ship, they sunk her by the explosives. I wouldn't need this option in SH3. If I could choose, I'd rather have option to take survivors from liferafts on my board.
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There wouldnt be enough room on a Ubout to bring survivors onboard. you have 3 options.
1 be noble give the survivors food and water and a course to land.
2 ignore them do nothing.
3 kill them with your AA gun.
In theroy you could pick up the survivors and dump them on the next netural ship you see of course this would be very risky and your in a spot of trouble if you dont find a netural ship. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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