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Snootles
07-28-2004, 10:55 PM
I was doing some reading and discovered a few Russian bombers that aren't in the game yet. They really should be, if only as AI planes.

Arkhangelskii Ar-2: Light bomber. Max bombload of 1,5 metric tonnes. One ShKAS each in nose, rear dorsal, and rear ventral gunners' positions. 200 produced from Sept 1940.

Yermolayev Yer-2: Medium Bomber. Max bombload of 4 metric tonnes. One UBT each in nose position and rear dorsal power turret. One ShKAS in rear ventral gunner position. 128 produced from Oct 1941.

Yermolayev Yer-2/ACh-30B: Improved version with new diesel engines. New nacelles, completely redesigned cooling system, exhaust tuned to provide thrust. Redesigned outer wings with greater area. Max load now 5 tonnes. One UBT each in nose and rear ventral positions. One ShVAK in new rear dorsal power turret. 312 produced from Feb 1944. Critical role Battle of Berlin by 16th Air Army airplanes.

Oh, and I have a bit more information too if anyone needs some. Including line drawings.

Snootles
07-28-2004, 10:55 PM
I was doing some reading and discovered a few Russian bombers that aren't in the game yet. They really should be, if only as AI planes.

Arkhangelskii Ar-2: Light bomber. Max bombload of 1,5 metric tonnes. One ShKAS each in nose, rear dorsal, and rear ventral gunners' positions. 200 produced from Sept 1940.

Yermolayev Yer-2: Medium Bomber. Max bombload of 4 metric tonnes. One UBT each in nose position and rear dorsal power turret. One ShKAS in rear ventral gunner position. 128 produced from Oct 1941.

Yermolayev Yer-2/ACh-30B: Improved version with new diesel engines. New nacelles, completely redesigned cooling system, exhaust tuned to provide thrust. Redesigned outer wings with greater area. Max load now 5 tonnes. One UBT each in nose and rear ventral positions. One ShVAK in new rear dorsal power turret. 312 produced from Feb 1944. Critical role Battle of Berlin by 16th Air Army airplanes.

Oh, and I have a bit more information too if anyone needs some. Including line drawings.

AdmiralWarlord
07-29-2004, 09:56 AM
5 tonnes on improved Yer-2 ? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Luftcaca
07-30-2004, 12:56 PM
Any pics?
cool nonetheless

http://www.ifrance.com/boussourir/luftcaca.jpg

Formerly ''known'' as Gunther Aeroburst

wants flyable:

early 110's
IL-10
Pe-3

Snootles
07-30-2004, 03:04 PM
Yeah, I have some small black-and-white photos of the planes on-ground, plus some three-views. I'll see what I can do.

In case you wondered who Arkhangelskii was, he was the de facto head of the Tupolev bureau when Tupolev got arrested. He was important in the design of the SB light bomber, and its further variations were entirely his work. He also did important work on the Tu-2S and structural work for the Tu-4 and derivatives.

Yermolayev took over Bartini's bureau when Bartini was arrested, and adapted the Bartini Stal-7 design into the Yer-2.

VOL_Mountain
07-31-2004, 08:39 PM
Let's see if these links work:

http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/er-2-0.jpg

http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/er2-watson.jpg

http://www.altitude.us/missions/The%20Volunteers/mountainsig.jpg

DarthBane_
07-31-2004, 09:07 PM
Great design, reminds on bird from side view, particulary beaotifull nose. Designs like this diserve work, totaly irelevant how big part they played, i like do335 in similar way, esteticaly.

XyZspineZyX
07-31-2004, 11:28 PM
That's so ugly, even it's mother wouldn't like it.

That's Breguet 693 ugly. Blenheim ugly. *You*gly.

Carnage2681
08-01-2004, 05:14 AM
This plane is so ugly you must shot it down the do a service for mother earth ;D

This Plane probably cause "Eye Cancer"


But I whant it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

hotspace
08-01-2004, 07:14 AM
A few Links for ya:

http://www.worldatwar.net/chandelle/v1/v1n2/sb.html

http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?INT-014

Hot Space

http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v33/Hot_Space/17-7-04.gif (http://www.angelfire.com/games5/hellsgazelles/index.htm)


Festung Europa Spitfire Campaign (http://www.netwings.org/library/Forgotten_Battles/Missions/index-14.html)

Plelv44_Mangrov
08-01-2004, 08:17 AM
Identification Manual For Russian Aircraft (http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/WW2History-Tunnistus.html)

Ar-2:

http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/kuvat/ww2history-tunnistus/ar-2.jpg

"No enemy plane will fly over the reich territory"
Herman G├┬Âring