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Bearcat99
02-10-2004, 10:33 PM
OK guys......humor us all with your first impressions of IL2 or FB...not both but whichever one you tried first..... cause if you tried IL2 first you were a shoe in for FB for the most part.

I came from CFS1 mostly.. I tried 2 but most of my buddies were still in 1 so there I stayed. Fooled around with Aces High and Warbirds...and Fighter Ace..but the pay 2 play thing always turned me off.... besides the Zone was fun and I was flying with a great bunch and we were pretty big as far as numbers & rep goes.... (Hey it was CFS1...) I saw this sim called IL2 in the store..I was going to pick it up one day ... it had "Game of the Year" on it and it was another WW2 sim!!! I looked at the system reqs and at that time I had very little money to take a chance with...and my rig was a PII233MHZ system with a GF2.....no wait at that time I actually had a TNT Riva...32M video card and 384M of SD 100Ram.... I looked at the prices of the top end systems and video cards and gagged. So ..... I put IL2 down and continued to improve in CFS1. My rig was seriously limiting me though..... Then I heard about CFS3.... I knew Id have to upgrade so I first got a GF2MMX..(why dont ask..oh yeah...$$$) Anyway to make a long story short (somebody just said yeah...please do) I kicked up my rig to an XP1600 with 512 of DDR266 RAM and a 9000Pro128. While almost foaming at the mouth and becoming a fixture in my local Best Buy/Circuit City/Comp USA waitng for the release of the much hyped CFS3.. I stumbled across a guy named Phil in Best Buy....Potomac Mills.....(ironic since I work there now) who told me about IL2. This guy (and I have yet to see him again online or off) told me he had CFS3..got it early...(I was saying to myself..."Now how in the H@LL did he DO THAT!!!) and it was a step backwards.... Of course I thought he was blowing smoke http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Anyway.....moving right along...... he told me about IL2..... and I had a guy in our squad in CFS named Leo...his online name on the Zone was Leost.... who had also mentioned IL2. They both said that it blew CFS away.... which had me wondering how can this be??? CFS is the BOMB!!! LMAO!!! I did like CFS better than any of the other 3 sims I mentioned...mostly because of the online community and the fact that the maps were good...well.... good to me at the time....

Bottom line...I got IL2 and took it home since with my new rig I could run it... I think it took about 10 minutes for me to realize I had something precious on my HD. Of course I flew..... what else!! An IL2 first. Didnt read any instructins off the bat..... figured out the QMB in about 10 seconds and flew..... I got tired of the closed pit so I read the pamphlet... figured out how to get the pit off and alter the settings...Hmmmm where are the bad guys...... oh...waitaminnit!! Whats that blue thing on the edge of my screen..... ooooooooo cool and heeeyy it's getting bigger.... ohhh I get it. Then I started trying different planes and of course since I didnt have a Mustang I picked a plane that kinda looked like a Mustang.... sort of... kinda... So I hoped into a Yak...then I discovered F3, quite by accident..because once I figued out how to get the pit off I threw the book down and continued to explore. I had no idea I was being sucked in........ I was a lamb going to the Oleg Maddox/1C slaughterhouse.... LMAO. I did this for a few days...discovering, but I still went back to CFS and the Zone..... I started telling my squaddies about IL2 almost immediately.... I must admit I was turned off also by the fact that the only American plane was the P-39...and the P-39 in CFS was crap.... not so in IL2...but of course I couldnt fly it..yanking & banking?? In an IL2 P-39?? eh eh..not having it... I got over the lack of American planes PDQ.

Phil GOD bless him also told me about Hyperlobby.... and here.... so blame him....LMAO http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I was blown away by this forum. I got patched.... It blew me away that Oleg would post here... I had never heard of that before... H@ll it blew me away that we got patches........ All that was new to me. Back then we still had the PL. This was my first forum. By that time I was pretty much into online flying from the Zone but forums were totally new to me. After visiting here for a bit and fooling around with IL2..and trying to get my squaddies to at least try it....... I went to HL and my first night there I saw Oleg Maddox's name in the playewrs list. I was totally blown away.. AGAIN....then I went online for the first time and went into Redwulf 1's server. Mind you now... I had NEVER taken off in IL2.. I was using the QMB. I was shocked when I entered the sever and I was parked on the tarmac. No problem...... piece of cake.....LOL... just take off .... like in CDS or any other sim you have taken off in. NOT. After my 4th or 5th attempt...I had at least gotten off the ground but as soon as I saw a bogie and tried to take evasive action I was a lawndart.... I'll never forget it.. Redwulf goes... "It's not a Pony Bear..... you gotta be easy on the stick.." He suggested I try an La5.. and I did....and the rest is history... I left my squad....I tried to do CFS I really wanted to stay withmy buds..but man...what a gagly sim..... It was good in its day but after IL2..Pfft!! I'll neve forget my last time flying it... I was in a 100% FFA and there were Hurris flying all around and my palne would go into that occasional CFS flop that was supposed to be a stall...... I said..... why are you here?? All my squaddies were already looking at me with raised eyebrows since I started raving about this sim...IL2. I left the room and the Zone and havent been back since.

So thats my long drawn out tale of how I came to IL2...whats yours? The thing that blew me away the most was the graphics.... it took me a while to really appreciate the FMs & DMs... and the track feature..that was a huge thing to me... I was like OHHHHHH WOOOOOOWWWW!! I would record EVERY FLIGHT.... Then i ran into Painter one day and i sent him an email asking if he painted for fun or profit... he more or less said..." What do you need" and I told him I wanted some Redtail P-39 & La skins.. about a week later I got his email. Those were the first time I had ever seen Redtailed skins in this sim. That impressed me so, his willingness to do that for me...and mind you at the time I really didnt know what went into making skins in IL2. That and this community were just as much selling points as the sim itself. Needless to say when I sent screenshots of the Redtailed La5s to my squadmates in an attempt to let them see the potential I was labeled a turncoatand blasted. I formally resigned from the squad and havent looked back since. By the time FB came out I was a stone cold Sturmoviking fiend..... Man o man I enjoy this sim.

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[This message was edited by Bearcat99 on Tue February 10 2004 at 09:42 PM.]

Bearcat99
02-10-2004, 10:33 PM
OK guys......humor us all with your first impressions of IL2 or FB...not both but whichever one you tried first..... cause if you tried IL2 first you were a shoe in for FB for the most part.

I came from CFS1 mostly.. I tried 2 but most of my buddies were still in 1 so there I stayed. Fooled around with Aces High and Warbirds...and Fighter Ace..but the pay 2 play thing always turned me off.... besides the Zone was fun and I was flying with a great bunch and we were pretty big as far as numbers & rep goes.... (Hey it was CFS1...) I saw this sim called IL2 in the store..I was going to pick it up one day ... it had "Game of the Year" on it and it was another WW2 sim!!! I looked at the system reqs and at that time I had very little money to take a chance with...and my rig was a PII233MHZ system with a GF2.....no wait at that time I actually had a TNT Riva...32M video card and 384M of SD 100Ram.... I looked at the prices of the top end systems and video cards and gagged. So ..... I put IL2 down and continued to improve in CFS1. My rig was seriously limiting me though..... Then I heard about CFS3.... I knew Id have to upgrade so I first got a GF2MMX..(why dont ask..oh yeah...$$$) Anyway to make a long story short (somebody just said yeah...please do) I kicked up my rig to an XP1600 with 512 of DDR266 RAM and a 9000Pro128. While almost foaming at the mouth and becoming a fixture in my local Best Buy/Circuit City/Comp USA waitng for the release of the much hyped CFS3.. I stumbled across a guy named Phil in Best Buy....Potomac Mills.....(ironic since I work there now) who told me about IL2. This guy (and I have yet to see him again online or off) told me he had CFS3..got it early...(I was saying to myself..."Now how in the H@LL did he DO THAT!!!) and it was a step backwards.... Of course I thought he was blowing smoke http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Anyway.....moving right along...... he told me about IL2..... and I had a guy in our squad in CFS named Leo...his online name on the Zone was Leost.... who had also mentioned IL2. They both said that it blew CFS away.... which had me wondering how can this be??? CFS is the BOMB!!! LMAO!!! I did like CFS better than any of the other 3 sims I mentioned...mostly because of the online community and the fact that the maps were good...well.... good to me at the time....

Bottom line...I got IL2 and took it home since with my new rig I could run it... I think it took about 10 minutes for me to realize I had something precious on my HD. Of course I flew..... what else!! An IL2 first. Didnt read any instructins off the bat..... figured out the QMB in about 10 seconds and flew..... I got tired of the closed pit so I read the pamphlet... figured out how to get the pit off and alter the settings...Hmmmm where are the bad guys...... oh...waitaminnit!! Whats that blue thing on the edge of my screen..... ooooooooo cool and heeeyy it's getting bigger.... ohhh I get it. Then I started trying different planes and of course since I didnt have a Mustang I picked a plane that kinda looked like a Mustang.... sort of... kinda... So I hoped into a Yak...then I discovered F3, quite by accident..because once I figued out how to get the pit off I threw the book down and continued to explore. I had no idea I was being sucked in........ I was a lamb going to the Oleg Maddox/1C slaughterhouse.... LMAO. I did this for a few days...discovering, but I still went back to CFS and the Zone..... I started telling my squaddies about IL2 almost immediately.... I must admit I was turned off also by the fact that the only American plane was the P-39...and the P-39 in CFS was crap.... not so in IL2...but of course I couldnt fly it..yanking & banking?? In an IL2 P-39?? eh eh..not having it... I got over the lack of American planes PDQ.

Phil GOD bless him also told me about Hyperlobby.... and here.... so blame him....LMAO http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I was blown away by this forum. I got patched.... It blew me away that Oleg would post here... I had never heard of that before... H@ll it blew me away that we got patches........ All that was new to me. Back then we still had the PL. This was my first forum. By that time I was pretty much into online flying from the Zone but forums were totally new to me. After visiting here for a bit and fooling around with IL2..and trying to get my squaddies to at least try it....... I went to HL and my first night there I saw Oleg Maddox's name in the playewrs list. I was totally blown away.. AGAIN....then I went online for the first time and went into Redwulf 1's server. Mind you now... I had NEVER taken off in IL2.. I was using the QMB. I was shocked when I entered the sever and I was parked on the tarmac. No problem...... piece of cake.....LOL... just take off .... like in CDS or any other sim you have taken off in. NOT. After my 4th or 5th attempt...I had at least gotten off the ground but as soon as I saw a bogie and tried to take evasive action I was a lawndart.... I'll never forget it.. Redwulf goes... "It's not a Pony Bear..... you gotta be easy on the stick.." He suggested I try an La5.. and I did....and the rest is history... I left my squad....I tried to do CFS I really wanted to stay withmy buds..but man...what a gagly sim..... It was good in its day but after IL2..Pfft!! I'll neve forget my last time flying it... I was in a 100% FFA and there were Hurris flying all around and my palne would go into that occasional CFS flop that was supposed to be a stall...... I said..... why are you here?? All my squaddies were already looking at me with raised eyebrows since I started raving about this sim...IL2. I left the room and the Zone and havent been back since.

So thats my long drawn out tale of how I came to IL2...whats yours? The thing that blew me away the most was the graphics.... it took me a while to really appreciate the FMs & DMs... and the track feature..that was a huge thing to me... I was like OHHHHHH WOOOOOOWWWW!! I would record EVERY FLIGHT.... Then i ran into Painter one day and i sent him an email asking if he painted for fun or profit... he more or less said..." What do you need" and I told him I wanted some Redtail P-39 & La skins.. about a week later I got his email. Those were the first time I had ever seen Redtailed skins in this sim. That impressed me so, his willingness to do that for me...and mind you at the time I really didnt know what went into making skins in IL2. That and this community were just as much selling points as the sim itself. Needless to say when I sent screenshots of the Redtailed La5s to my squadmates in an attempt to let them see the potential I was labeled a turncoatand blasted. I formally resigned from the squad and havent looked back since. By the time FB came out I was a stone cold Sturmoviking fiend..... Man o man I enjoy this sim.

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[This message was edited by Bearcat99 on Tue February 10 2004 at 09:42 PM.]

DONB3397
02-10-2004, 10:54 PM
Can't top that tale. In my case, I found IL2 almost by accident; I bought it on an out-of-town business trip on the way back to the airport. Then left it on the shelf for six months while I continued to fly the three standard sims on my hard drive.

One day a friend of mine, a programmer, showed me an article that called IL2 the best flight sim ever. It included some dazzling graphics. Hey, I thought, isn't that the sim I picked up a while back?

I installed it, went through the same trial-and-error that all know-it-all simmers do, and went online to look for patches and servers. A few months later FB came out.

What else can I say? The other sims are still installed, but I can't remember how to start them.

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Menthol_moose
02-10-2004, 10:56 PM
seems like ages ago now, someone gave me a copied (excuse my sin) cd of this flight sim I couldnt pronouce.

Installed it, play it for a bit was terrible at it and couldnt hit a thing. The controls were very sensitive and the targets seemed very small.

Read later about the forgotten battles pack comming out and decided to give it a shot. Bought the game and a proper joystick and learned to play it properly.

Now im a fricken addict ! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

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Weather_Man
02-10-2004, 11:20 PM
I picked up IL2 not too long after it came out. I had just finished my first flight sim ever...CFS2, and was just browsing for something new. Saw this funky looking Russian thing on the box...hmm..what the heck is a Il2 Schoemaker?

Well, it is a WWII sim, so I gave it a shot. Then, all I remember is:

"HOW THE? WHAT THE? SOME OF A B...!!!!" As I tried to take off for the thirteenth time.

And then the "SUUUAAAAWEEEEET" the first time I saw ACTUAL PIECES OF THE PLANE come off when I managed to land a few rounds. It wasn't just puffs of smoke from the same spot every time. It really knows where I hit it!!! That was just tooo cool man, too cool.

georgeo76
02-10-2004, 11:41 PM
Being a Rabid CFS2 fan, I got wind of IL2 through the websites who feature both games. Although the graphics impressed me in videos and screeies, I thought the ever-present speed bar was an indication of an arcade game.

When I tried the demo, I found the FM to be difficult and had trouble doing BFM. I found gunnery to be imposable, the aircraft and setting unusual, and the interface to be confusing and clumsy. I only played IL2 Demo a handful of times and I didn't like it.

Obviously I changed my mind, but this is about first impressions right?


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Showtime_100
02-10-2004, 11:43 PM
I had played Aces High a while and really enjoyed it but got burned out on it the past year and I had recently upgraded to a new computer in anticipation of LOMAC. However, once I got my hands on a copy of LOMAC, I soon realized that though it has a gorgeous environment, I found it lacking due to a few design decisions that I personally don't care for. I guess I had a vacancy to fill. So just last Thursday, only 5-days ago, I saw Forgotten Battles at the store for $19.99 and grabbed it...$20 isn't all that tough for me to shell out and I figured I can't really go wrong. Since my rig isn't too bad, I'm able to play at top settings and once again I was blown away by the environment but since FB has been out longer, it's more mature and a more complete product. Anyway, I patched to 1.22 and grabbed a bunch of Mustang skins and am really enjoying the quick fights. But since I'm new to the sim, I'm still learning little nuances. The only downside I see so far is that I cannot pan my view with the coolie hat. I mean a true pan like the mouse view, not set places the view pants to. I'm still trying to figure out just what is needed on my stick and am terrible with SA since I only have four views. I went into Hyperlobby and basically got spanked. Still, I look forward to spending some time on this game.

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HangerQueen
02-11-2004, 12:02 AM
The last flight sim I played before Il2 was on the ZX spectrum (you remember those?) Anyway, playing a flight sim is like listening to a Sonic Youth record. The first time you try it, you think "This is absolutely awful!" But after a few tries, it grows on you. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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tenmmike
02-11-2004, 12:13 AM
well i never had a computer in my life, my guns and Harley and the courts took all my $,( im a ahole somtimes) i was flipping through a PC pilot ( i think) mid 2002...saw a ad for IL-2 and though wow somebody else on this planet knows about that plane...went to lurking the forum at a library and researching more into this sim that is supposed to be good ...so i started to buy computer parts at that time i could not even spell RAM much less know what it was so i started to read .. took me 3-4 months to buy and build my first machine installed IL-2 and thought WOW this is a blast..plus i could talk about planes on the forume.with people who knew as much or more then me.. before FB came out i upgraded and all kinds of stuff started to be seen by me which made me even happier,i was already sold to IL-2 about 1 day after getting it plus the tech guys were happy to help a polite noob ( i had to be nice as at the time had no clue as to what i was talking about) and am a little better now LOL.. i cant tell a story like BC ..... but i still love this game..after buying IL-2 i bought cfs2, cfs3 b-17 mighty eighth (?).within 2 weeks....played them for a bit but the love was not there i tried but nothing there ..so here i still am, deleted all but IL-2 and FB .. i waited like a dork for FB to be release the the local eb games and talked them out of there display box which i still got, its cool as its different a bit from the release box.....blah blah im rambiling

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cd.jakevas
02-11-2004, 12:18 AM
I havent been playing flight sims too long. My 1st big adventure into a flight sim was cfs2. I tried it a while without a joystick http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif . So i went back to walmart later on that week to get a joystick and i saw a IL2. I thought, uh what the heck, ill pick it up also. For some reason or another i kinda liked cfs2 more. IL2, although better looking, seemed really hard, and not very user friendly. I guess i really didnt give it a chance. So a few weeks passed before i gave it another shot. Lets just say im hooked http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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RaiderSix
02-11-2004, 12:22 AM
I remember seeing the IL2 box in Best Buy everytime I went in there checking up on Medal of Honor type games. I picked up the box and looked it over on each visit there, but was unsure of the quality of the game just going on the screenshots. By fate, I happened to run across a (net)video that someone had made using FB. I was originally searching for real combat gun footage, but soon turned my attention from that to IL2. So I just had to have it and knew that it would be at Best Buy just like always. Went to Best Buy and didn't find it. Went to Wal-Mart, K-mart, Circuit City, Toys R Us, everywhere...no one had it. I ended up getting it off Ebay, and now I am happy. I enjoy going online and being a target for other people (cuz I can't shoot anyone down). Maybe one day I'll catch someone away from their computer and sneak up on their six while their talking on the phone or something. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

jurinko
02-11-2004, 12:37 AM
i´ve never had any flight sim before, even no home PC.. but once I read (in February 2002) an article in PC section of newspaper about it.. Eastern front!.. nothing more was necessary.
First time I flew it, my wife was in the bath and I fired it on my business laptom 600Mhz Celeron.. flew IL-2 via the keyboard and was ABSOLUTELY stunned..

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Zayets
02-11-2004, 01:17 AM
I saw a movie in the computer store about an ugly airplane.IL2,that is.Then suddenly remembered that I know this plane and thought is an addon for whatever sim , or expansion pack.So watched the movie and that impressed me.Said coming on whatever date. Since I was a veery fonded falconeer the time I almost forgot the release date(I never preorder). So , here I am , in the store , buying IL2 in a cardbox and all the whistles. Went home , installed it and ... go to holiday http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
When I came back there were some problems with f4 , so I decided to step away for awhile.And fired up IL2.By the time I was starting plying it the first patch was in the air.Dnld patch , fire up play.Hmmmm... not bad.So I have seen the IAR80 in the list.And then loved the sim.Took me few hours to master FMB and starting building missions.Ordered cable internet which they came after a month to install it.Man , I was happy. Tried all my games onlne , tthen I took IL2 for a whirl in ubi.com , hehehe , a bit scared , no icons , no stuffs , hmmmm, back offline and back to school.and this was the moment wheen I discovered you guys , since I needed some advices , right. The rest , you know it.

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alarmer
02-11-2004, 01:19 AM
I tell you exactly what I felt when I fired guns for the first time in FB.

"Oh Cr*p the frigging muzzle flashes are still there"

XyZspineZyX
02-11-2004, 01:34 AM
My first flight sim was Janes WW II Fighters. I nearly fell out of my chair the graphics were so good. I had a tough time with the FM but couldn't give up flying all those beautiful birds. Then I heard that although the graphics were inferior, the gameplay was superior in European Air War. I loved the Battle of Britain Campagin and played every squadron. I must have had a hundred quick missions on the HD too. Then a friend of mine suggested CFS2. After reading some M$ hype from pilots claiming it to be the best thing since Swiss cheese I bought it. But soon the only appeal was the carrier takeoffs and landings. I kept going back to EAW.
Then one day I heard about the IL-2 Strumo-something-or-other. It looked very good and was getting fabulous reviews. But, with a 56K dial-up it took me nearly a week to d/l the demo. (I refuse to use acelleraters). I loaded it up and set up a QMB. I chose the IL-2 (duh!) and chose 'Armor' as my target. I was impressed with the cockpit. Very detailed but dam...all in Cyrillic! Then I looked outside. Hmmm, now that's terrain I thought. I got to the target area and immdiately dove down on the intersecting roads. I was guessing becuase all I saw was a smoke trail. I guessed it was a tank column. I was right! I pressed the trigger...and didn't hit a thing. Hmmm...I pulled back on the stick and while fumbling for keys hit 'C'. HUH? I was the gunner? I could control the gun? I could shoot it? "Enemy car destroyed? OH MAN THIS IS COOOOL! I swung the stick around and discovered the AI was a much better shot than me. I had memorized the eject sequence before I took off. Good thing I thought then...W O W! I was finally outside! What a beautiful game and look at all the damage on my IL-2. I was floating serenely over the enemy and marveling at what I had come across.
CFS2 took an immediate exit, stage right, and EAW followed the next day. All I had was the IL-2 demo and it was enough, for two months! I finally bought IL-2 then FB. I upgraded everything including my Internet connection. Although I had never gone online to game I wanted to with IL-2/FB.
Have I regretted a moment? No! Never have I better spent my hard earned dollars. The value for dollar spent is astronomical! Without a doubt, this is THE BEST FLIGHT SIM EVER!

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tsisqua
02-11-2004, 01:49 AM
To be perfectly honest, I bought IL2 and installed it on my Gateway, (Celeron 650), and watched a slide show. I took it back, not realizing what I had done. Later on, I bought a graphics card, and thought "what the heck, I'll try the demo.". I had to set the graphics as low as they would go, and was completely unaware of what the sim would look like on a nice machine, but that didn't matter. As soon as it was running smooth, the flight model was what grabbed me, I mean REALLY grabbed me. It wasn't until my next computer that I was hooked by the graphics, and have spent a small fortune (well, a fortune for me anyway . . . ) on hardware, just for IL2/IL2FB. I still can't believe that I took my first copy back.

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Huxley_S
02-11-2004, 03:57 AM
My first impressions were hearing this dodgy midi marching band music against a black and white intro thinking "what the hell is this sh*t?"... then getting to the menu screen with more dodgy midi marching band music and loading up a game on normal settings and spending about an hour tring to take off... then switching to easy settings and wondering why my plane kept bouncing off the ground... and I couldn't understand how to end a mission... it still baffles me in fact. (I think that if take off and landings are enabled then missions can only end successfully when you've landed back at base. But I digress).

Basically my first impressions of this game were that IL2 was a load of rubbish. However, I began to get the feeling I was missing something important and it is only through coming to these forums that I learned to appreciate the true majesty of this game.

If 1C Maddox want to attract more players to BoB they should do something to improve the presentation, mission parameters and especially the instruction manual.

Huxley_S
02-11-2004, 04:18 AM
I have just witnessed the astonishing "Secret Weapon over Stalingrad" movie... this is what I'm talking about! Magnificent work fella!

If Forgotten Battles had this as it's intro movie it would have blown me away... and if they had this kind of thing looping on the TV screens in Game stores or Electronic Boutoque or whatever there would probably be 100 times as many people playing the game. IMHO.

robban75
02-11-2004, 04:21 AM
I saw IL2 in a games store and I looked at the cover and thought, nah, the IL2 doesn't appeal to me, I'm into fighter planes, so I put it back on the shelf. An hour later I went into a magazine store going through some aviation magazines when I saw that PC pilot(I think) was doing a review of IL2. I read it and saw that one could fly fighterplanes aswell. So I bought it. I went home and istalled it, picked an aircraft, which was the Fw 190A-4! I flew on the wintermap and shot down some LaGG's I think. And now it's 2004 and I'm still as hooked as ever! IL2 was my first WW2 sim, I've always been a modern day jet fan, but now I think it's safe to say that WW2 props have a somewhat bigger place in my heart! And it's all thanks to Oleg and team! Amazing how things can turn out! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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eeonel
02-11-2004, 04:24 AM
Downloaded & Installed demo. Fired it up, sitting on the ground in the P-39 in the rain. Took about 25 attempts just to get into the air.

SeaFireLIV
02-11-2004, 04:28 AM
Ah,,,
The first time I saw IL2 was when browsing in a software shop and saw a crap-looking plane on the side of a small box..., "What`s a IL2 Sturmovik? Boring." Looked at something else...

At this time I was heavily into EAW and decided I was good enough to join an online Squad. So I applied to a well known European Squad that said in it`s website that it used EAW.

"We don`t really do EAW anymore, we`ve started on Sturmovik. If your PC can handle it you won`t regret it."

That game again, I thought...

Fine. I wasn`t to excited about it. It was Russian- Good Russian games don`t exist, besides they just about had no aircraft. And worse of all, NO DYNAMIC CAMPAIGN to cut my teeth on. Oh well.

I powered it up. Wow! The music was crap, but it was the Graphics that blew me away, even though my Voodoo card was giving some strange effects I could clearly see the quality. Then there were the SIRENS in the background.

The first IL2 took off and I clearly saw the full wheels roll slowly to a stop as its gears folded underneath it. The Stukas flying in formation (again, everything in glorious full 3D- ), the wail as they went into their dive.

The I16 (i had no idea it was an I16 at the time) taking on the 109s. It was the first time I saw an I16 and I literally fell in love with it!

After that I bought a new graphics card, new Audigy soundcard, windows XP, 1 GB ram, dozens of tweaks, then upgraded the MB altogether! Never have I spent so much money or effort on just ONE game!

To be honest it was that black and white intro that did it for me. I never went back. I still marvel at it today! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

SeaFireLIV...

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MatuDa_
02-11-2004, 04:30 AM
Been playing flight sims forever, first comp was a 6MHz 286, some of the oldies know what that is.. I believe I had M$ flight sim 1 on it and something called "jet" in cga colors. After about 15 sims I reached Il-2 and thought it would be as easy as the rest.. ..I was in for a big surprise when on my first flight my bf109f stalled right after takeoff http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Couldn't hit anything after I managed to keep it in the air and I was truly amazed at the amount of stuff put into the game.. the 'pits, the odd planes, the FM, the DM, overall graphics, immersion, pretty much EVERYTHING was better than anything else http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It was everything I ever dreamed of in a computer game/flight sim, truly a dream come true.

Addition of the finnish front was also a very big thing since I am a finn.

Bearcat99
02-11-2004, 04:56 AM
Nice responses guys..keep em coming..... Another thing that blew me away was the first time I hit pause......and I accidentally hit my mouse....... WHOOAAAA!!!! I was zooming in & out and panning around and that was the final clincher for me. Doing that I was able to REALLY appreciate the visual quality of this sim.... The first time I flew through clouds I wa floored... I was impressed by the DMs.. the whole process took about2 weeks total to become totally and hopelessly enamored with the product. Hey Showtime... try new view I think it is... Im pretty sure the link is in the Sturmovik Essentials thread... at the top...it lets your hat switch act like as mouse.....or get a X45 stick with a mouse button. I f you use FFB then you can keep your FFB stick as the main stick and use the X45 stick as a button bay like I do. The mouse pan on the X45 is nice... In mode one I have it set slow in mode 2 it is a little faster & in mode 3 it is almost a snap view.... works great.

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DeerHunterUK
02-11-2004, 05:37 AM
I think my 1st impressions of IL2 were;
"Oooh this really is better than CFS 2".
And I never looked back.

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Bull-Dog.
02-11-2004, 06:03 AM
I`ve been interested it computers since the mid 80s, but was never interested in playing games. aprox 2 years ago I joined a software club which gave me some free gifts, one of which was IL2. It sat on a shelf until one Sunday afternoon I decided to try it.
The first thing that struck me was the increadable graphics and what a challange it was just to stay in the air (using a keyboard). After 2 hours of trying to fly with little success I shut down and put it back on the shelf.
2 weeks later I was in our local supermarket where I spotted a wingman joystick (Half Price). I thought back to the other sunday and decided to buy it, to see what a difference it would make. After a short time I was shooting down A/C and having so much fun I forgot to go to bed.
I am now on my 4th joystick, Ive made my own rudder peddels which have been modified 3 or 4 times. My PC has been totaly rebuilt many times as I am always trying to improve the game and my skills
This is the only game I have ever played, I had no Idea how realistic flight sims are now. I have forsaken all my other interest and my family think I`ve gone insane.

I just wish I could fly like some of you guys who have been siming for years.

Still trying http://mysite.freeserve.com/bull_dog/images/1-picture1.jpg?0.9261296277898643 Still dying

LeadSpitter_
02-11-2004, 06:29 AM
in il2sturmovik, I left cfs2 becuase I got tired of all the cheating, My first time flying sturmovik I crashed about 3 times on takeoff thinking wtf is wrong with aircrafts ground stability in il2 sturmo, I was most impressed by the graphics, 3d cockpit details, cannon gunnery i was amazed how good it looked, and locked externals and difficulty setting for locked cockpit. And another very important thing was payloads you can drop online, I still get a blast out of bombing today. I also thought the muzzleflashs looked so cool like fire graphics even tho its not realistic looking

Coming from cfs2 which had real dat recordings of engine sounds I was disapointed in il2s sounds and was like what the hells up with the rainbowbright tracers. The book ballistics of wwii has alot of photos on how tracers look, muzzle flashs night and day and alot of other good info

But the no cheating made nothing else matter and been here ever since.

I went back to cfs2 a couple days ago just to see some of the stock planes and its harder to takeoff and land, roll is alot slower then fb, the game has correct stick pressures and the 3d pits arent bad at all.

Go fly it again and see what im talking about, the stalls are just ridiculous resembles the 190 fishflop but they take some time to recover from unlike il2fb.

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GvSAP_Dart
02-11-2004, 07:02 AM
I had been terrible at every sim I'd ever flown (not a natural pilot) all the way back to Battlehawks 1942, and had been stinking up Red Baron 3D.

In RB3D we were more and more getting into bombing, N-17's with Pup escorts, but it was just using a fighter in a bomber role.

One of the guys mentioned a sim where it's pretty good, no hacking, and there's a ground attack aircraft.

Okay! Sold! Don't know jack all about aircraft, really, but hey, that never stopped me.

The P-39 took off like a Camel, all torque and slip if you gunned the throttle, and when a squaddie bought it, too, we commenced to terrorize the tower in tandem.

No hit boxes! No lag shooting! You have to actually hit the aircraft to score damage, and every part of the aircraft registers damage!

Thanks to the natural course of upgrades, including DSL, TeamSpeak came into it's own, the graphics settings went up, and we began the adventure in full.

IL-2's taking on ground targets with dedicated escorts, the online experience was now complete...

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Dmitri9mm
02-11-2004, 07:18 AM
I started off with combat flight sims as early as 1991 with "their finest hour" and "secret weapons of the Luftwaffe" (BTW nothing will ever top SWOTL) I never was a big fan of any of the Microsoft CFS games. I loved Eropian Air War mostly for the big formations of bombers and the HUGE map.
One thing I never got though was an impression of the most fierce part of the air war: The eastern front.
I saw Il2 the first day it was out in Denmark (where I live) and I bought it without even looking at the back of the box!
When I got home and installed it, and had it running perfectly on my (at that time) crappy PC, a whole new world opened up for me: This was all I could dream of, a flyable planelist that seemed infinite, beatyful graphics, the best (though not perfect) FM and DM ever seen.
I could continue for hours. When the first free addon came with a whole bunch of new flyables, it was a new wonder: How on earth could a designteam work out new features and planes, and just give it away for FREE?
I will stop now, but don't you ever, EVER stop good people at MADDOX!

Willey
02-11-2004, 07:34 AM
My very first impression with it was when I started the Il-2 demo. I was playing WarBirds 2.77 and WB 3 beta up to that time. I took the 109G-2, just for a fly around so I wouldn't be dead meat for the AI on my first try. It was awesome. That cockpit, a blast! Looking around, I saw a nice green landscape, painted with rivers, roads, rails, villages, towns... and actually there were smooth hills and elevations. In WB, they were quite "polygonish" and other games didn't even have that. And that flight feeling. As I turned, the cockpit began shaking, in a dive I could somehow feel the acceleration as the pilot's view went back a bit... Generally, it felt much less artificially that the WB FM, although it also was quite good. Then I took another fly in the P-39... the stall characterisitc were awesome. Quite hard to fly. I actually had problems turnfighting in that bird although I had plenty of experience in WB. Then I tried the Il-2M against some ground targets... DOH, that was really hard to hit something!!! But I knew, this sim will become the best when it's out. It's freaking realistic, and not easy arcade compared to WB while WB is complex already. Really astonishing were my first tries to shoot something down. I tired both 109 and 39 against unarmed Li-2 first, but I didn't make it... I was able to kill several planes with a FW-190 in one flight, but I couldn't down a single big, slow transporter in Il-2!! I really felt that gunnery is very complex here, and it took me almost 2 weeks for my first fighter kills. It was really awesome and I couldn't stop playing it every afternoon...

TgD Thunderbolt56
02-11-2004, 07:54 AM
My first impression?

1. This game is effin hard!
2. The ground targets are d*mn near impossible to see!
3. I love it!

I had/played almost every flight sim on the market up to that point in all genres. WWI, WWII, Korea, Late jets, Helos so I wasn't really a rookie.

Bottom line is, I'm ruined for all other flight sims now as the bar has been raised...substantially.



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IV_JG51_Prien
02-11-2004, 07:59 AM
My first flight sim was Microsoft Flight Simulator on the Atari XE when I was a kid.. Was a little bit too young at the time to really understand or get much out of it. Then, in the 3rd grade my dad brought home Thier Finest Hour: The Battle of Britain. I was hooked.. Then when I learned of Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe I turned into a drooling lunatic who played the demo over and over.. Regardless that it was just attacking a flight of 4 bomber in a Me-262. Got the full version the day of release and played it for years.

Then I stopped playing flight sims for a bit.. SWOTL had become old hat, no longer fun, and all the new sims coming out seemed to be modern day fire and forget missle fests... (bleh).

Then I tried MS CFS1 and wasn't impressed in the slightest.. canned that crap after a couple days. Then I got EAW, and loved it.

I picked up both IL2 and Forgotten Battles on the same day back in December.. Didn't know much about it and it looked like the most promising sim on the shelf. Took it home and have been hooked on it ever since.. It's the most challenging flight sim I've played. I've grown in it from flying on easy mode to playing it full switch.

On top of that it has flyable Stukas and He-111's... what more could a LW junkie like me ask for?

F19_Gazoo
02-11-2004, 08:57 AM
Well, I ordered IL2 online and got Il2 Forgotten Battles instead. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Got very happy!
It was(is) the most goodlooking and realistic flightsim I´ve ever seen.
I´ve flown F22 ADF and Janes F15 before, but know now what I wanted and needed.

I love thats it is hard learn, much because of the payoff of "goodfeeling" after you´ve made a shotdown or nailed that landing is unbeatable.
I still hear people marvel over this game during onlinetalking while flying. It´s so beautiful. Just look over the map with the Finnish peninsula. Breathtaking!

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F19_Gazoo
02-11-2004, 09:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bearcat99:
The mouse pan on the X45 is nice... In mode one I have it set slow in mode 2 it is a little faster & in mode 3 it is almost a snap view.... works great.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanx for the tip, have to try that out!
Happy x45 owner! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Chuck_Older
02-11-2004, 09:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MatuDa_:
Been playing flight sims forever, first comp was a 6MHz 286, some of the oldies know what that is.. I believe I had M$ flight sim 1 on it and something called "jet" in cga colors. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I recall Jet very well. I also recall the first flight sim I tried, it was, if I recall the name correctly, Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Simulator, from Electronic arts. The ground was green the sky was blue http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I recall being very bored with flying around big letters all by myself. I had Jet, Gunship,(loved that), Blue Max (which wasn't a sim but boy it was fun), and then really not much until Aces of the Pacific came out. That made a big impression on me. Whatever happened to Dynamix, anyway? I liked their games.

When I first bought Il*2, I was a big CFS2 fan. I disliked CFS1, the ai planes porpoised a LOT and sounded like lawnmowers.

I remember not being impressed with Il*2 intro (I find the sepia tone effect and the 'vintage footage' effect of lines and dots in the film rather cheesy to this day) the music didn't grab me but I wasn't buying Il*2 for music!

I liked the interface, with simulated toggles and dials. It gave me a feeling of the era the sim was about.

Couln't take off, couldn't land and live, couldn't hit anything, couldn't escape from any attacker. Not being able to take off was a shock!

About the only difference to me in FB is now I can take off and land about 99.9% of the timehttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Eagle_361st
02-11-2004, 09:38 AM
Well my story follows Bearcats in many repects.... Mainly because he is the reason I came to IL2. I was in his squad the TRT's in CFS 1 and quite the hot shot ace in the P-51 and godawful P-47 but I still flew it. Have been flying her since Janes and EAW. I was Bears XO at the time and I noticed he wasn't around as much, when finally one night on the zone it was just me and him flying in a server and he started telling me about IL2 and how great it was and that I should get and try it out. We talked a bit more about it, but I botched at the idea that there was no P-47 and not even a P-51. I was clueless of the Russian A/C and limited by very poor performing PC. But I always kept it in the back of my mind. Well when CFS 3 came out and I had upgraded my PC to play to it, I was one the first to have it. Well we all know how terrible that sim is and was, so no need to go into detail. But I was amazed at how poorly it ran on my(At the time) top of the line PC. I gave it a go for over 2 months and finally wrote it off. So I was in all alone in CFS 1, the squad had migrated to CFS 3 and there I was flying my P-47 in CFS 1 and for the first time feeling like the whole thing was not right in any of the CFS series. So the next day I went down to the local EB store and found IL2 and bought it.

As soon as I got home I went upstairs and and installed it. I fired up QMB and went the through the plane list and I saw a bunch of A/C I was not familiar with but I remembered that Bear had said it was amazing, then I saw the P-39 and I said hey I will try it. Well being a hot shot ace in CFS 1 I figured this would be no problem.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I loaded up 16 AI 109G-6's and went at it. Hahahaha well long story short I killed one, then got a little shot up by another and then I started yanking on the stick ala CFS 1 style. And I ended up flat spinning to my death all the while watching in total amazement and disdain. I was like this is a "real stall" wow! So I went back at it, this time 1v1 with the P-39 and the 109 AI. I kept at it until I figured out the sweet spots of the 39(which was quite a few). Then I tried the Yaks and La's, but always prefered the P-39, I guess I liked the challenge of flying something that ws tough like the P-47 in CFS 1. I started the campaign and flew alot offline and only a few times did I fly CFS 1, but I immediately noticed just how fake everything seemed flying. I never returned within having IL2 for more than 2 weeks. One night I cought Bear on MSN and told him I got IL2, and he taught me about this site, HL. And took me online for my first experience online in IL2. He taught me about the settings how DF's worked, and to my total amazement there were real Coop's with missions. Which I am still hooked on to this day, although I usually warm up in DF rooms. Then aprusing this site I saw FB was coming and that I there was a P-47 to be flyable in FB! I knew right then and there I had found "my sim" and all thanks to Bear who told me about it and helped along in those very early days. As well as many others especially the now defunct 78th vFG. The sim just blew me away and spoiled me, I judge every other by the definition created by Oleg, 1c and UBI now. Thanks to Bear, the game developers and the Community here, I have found a new "home" and only hope to help others as they come into it, so it can grow and prosper.

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Claymoar
02-11-2004, 09:45 AM
Well,ya'll just have to wait for my "first impression",as I've yet to buy the game.Here's the deal,I'm on dailup,no fast connection available in my local.
I've never played a flight sim,will have to get a joystick,practice,practice,cuss,cuss,then pray,pray that a fast connection comes my way before I "kick the bucket".
Read these forums on a regular basis,but first post from me,pc should be able to handle game fine,from what I've read here.Hope to see you pilots in the air soon.

For the real pilots here: Has anyone here ever flown a "weedhopper"?

Chuck_Older
02-11-2004, 09:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Claymoar:
Well,ya'll just have to wait for my "first impression",as I've yet to buy the game.Here's the deal,I'm on dailup,no fast connection available in my local.
I've never played a flight sim,will have to get a joystick,practice,practice,cuss,cuss,then pray,pray that a fast connection comes my way before I "kick the bucket".
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not sure if you realise this, but: Il*2 and Il*2 FB are not online only games. You may not be able to fly against anything but game AI off-line, but you can certainly learn to fly the planes effectively off-line. Sometimes I get the feeling that most folks think FB is a MMPOG.

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RobertNighthawk
02-11-2004, 09:58 AM
!. OMG, it can't be this good, really! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
2. I must have it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
3. OMG, this is the greatest toy of a lifetime. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
4. I need more computer. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
5. This cat Oleg is a brain!

God I love this game. Thanks again, Oleg.

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il_gufo
02-11-2004, 10:13 AM
I too have played flight sims since Flight Simulator and Yeager's AFS on my Commodore 64. I first read about IL-2 on Thrustmaster's site which used to be really good before they were bought by Guillemot. They had interviews with Oleg and how they were striving for more realism and everything. I had a hard on for months waiting for it to come out. Then I tried the demo but my computer was too weak to make it play well. My first impressions were great graphics, great flying, dang, I need a better system. I went back to Jane's WWII Fighters and Rowan's BOB. I finally convinced the wife to let me spend money upgrading the computer and by that time I found FB for $20. I've been hooked ever since.

NorrisMcWhirter
02-11-2004, 10:21 AM
Hi,

I used to fly sims from all the way back to Psion Flight simulator (Lake Orb!) on the ZX Spectrum, F18/A on the Amiga through to CFS1 on my IDT Winchip *** Pentium 150MHz knacker with 48MB of RAM. Of course, CFS1 didn't run too well on it but it served it's purpose.

It was on this rig that I installed the Il-2 demo to find that I could get off the ground regardless of ~5fps I was getting. Liked it.

Purchased a new PC about 2 years ago (spec in another thread) and got hold of CFS3. Installed that, deinstalled that and obtained Il2 with some of the refund.

First impressions? Wow - the plane shakes near to stalls/when firing, the cockpits are fantastic, you can look around, you can tell the difference between the aircraft.

In short, within 60 mins of play, you could feel the quality and dedication that had gone into crafting it - items sorely lacking from a lot of 'film tie-in/rushed out' rubbish that appears these days.



Cheers,
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MajorBloodnok
02-11-2004, 10:21 AM
Read about Il2 in PC Zone and liked the graphics. I'd tried CFS1 and wasn't impressed with the FM or photo terrain. Installed the IL2 demo when it was on the cover discs. Not that impressed with the music so turned it off. Then tried the P39 mission first. Amazed to be sitting in a cockpit and hearing the rain hitting the canopy. Eventually managed to take off after many flips and fatal side slips and then I found those Ju88s who promptly shot me down. Amazing graphics and immersion. Played the QMB in the demo for at least a month before buying the game. Broke the trigger off my joystick in the process, LOL.

Started visiting here not long after getting the demo. Amazed by the community, that Oleg came here, the knowledge and the humanity of the people here (generally). Still amazed by this game, the immersion, the frustration, the excellent COOPS at HyperLobby, the FMB and all you guys still here!

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heywooood
02-11-2004, 10:29 AM
Hey Bear -
I also have a flight sim enthusiast problem.
It started for me with cfs2... mmmm Corsairs..
Then I saw an article about a new sim called
Il2 in a copy of Flight Journal - had to have it.. I even pre-ordered it online.
WOW..the clouds..the FM.. the Planes.. sweet.
I fly in the can.. went online a couple times to check it out but after I hosed a guy in a 109 with my I-16 and heard the whining about lag..cheating etc.. I quit that and went back in the can.. I love FB offline. Creating missions - downloading other missions (Extreme/Poymando) - skins! (Leadspitter/CanonUK et al.) There is no other flight sim - there will probably NEVER be another like Il2 and FB (except BoB when it comes out) that will meet my hard drive.
PS this forum and all of you guys are fun to read - even the complainers - you dont get what you dont ask for and you wouldnt be here if not for the love. heywooood

Propwash
02-11-2004, 10:29 AM
The P51 won the war.

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Chuck_Older
02-11-2004, 10:35 AM
I like puppies, apple pie, brown eyed girls, and P-51s too, but, let's face it, the P-51 saved American lives, it didn't win the war.
The Soviet Union had a lot to do with it. So did England's correct assesment that sending more fighters to France would only leave them that much closer to defeat. And don't forget American production ability. And there's also the fact that Hitler couldn't control the scale of war he was fighting after around '42 or early '43 (case in point- Italian attacks that they couldn't see through, Hitler had to bail them out). Without those things, we wouldn't have won. P-51's an important, pretty, fast, iconic detail, not a reason. We didn't have true strategic airpower until summer, 1945.

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Claymoar
02-11-2004, 10:36 AM
My "practice,practice" will be offline for sure,don't want to make a bigger fool out of myself,than I already am http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif.Shoot,my mind is made up,going to get a joystick,and game
tomorrow.Will get back with ya'll later this week. Prob. need a lot of answers to upcoming questions http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif.With luck,I may be flying online,oh.....by next year. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Weather_Man
02-11-2004, 10:36 AM
I flew offline campaigns for 6 months before I tried online. I only had dialup and figured it was useless to even try. Well, I did and it worked great! My first online game.

Of course, it has since changed my life completely. After a few weeks I was invited into a squad. Upgraded to broadband not long after. Learned how to tweak my computer and started reading every tech and review site there is. Then I learned how to build my own pc, which I did. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Now, I'm so into computers I'm changing careers and getting certifications so I can work on them AND get paid. I only bought my first pc a few months before Il2 came out. And now I'll be a certified expert in another month. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Il2 has definately changed things for the better for me. It led to not only a great game and hobby, but a whole new line of work that I thoroughly enjoy. Best $40 I ever spent.

DONB3397
02-11-2004, 10:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Weather_Man:
Of course, it has since changed my life completely. After a few weeks I was invited into a squad. Upgraded to broadband not long after. Learned how to tweak my computer and started reading every tech and review site there is. Then I learned how to build my own pc, which I did. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Now, I'm so into computers I'm changing careers and getting certifications so I can work on them AND get paid. I only bought my first pc a few months before Il2 came out. And now I'll be a certified expert in another month. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Now, THAT is a life-altering experience! Sounds like FB became one great investment in more than fun. Congratulations.

TheCrux
02-11-2004, 11:23 AM
Well I started with CFS1 ( which at the time I thought was the most ) and graduated to CFS2, which I REALLY liked ( and still do ). Tried Janes but didn't care for it. Good graphics but it just didn't light my fire. I heard of IL2 but always thought "yeah, someday I'll give it a shot". In what must be a textbook case managing of expectations, I finally bought the original IL2, but at the time remember thinking ( how good could it be for only 20 bucks, and with only 1 disc?

Anyhow as soon as I installed it and saw the B&W intro I knew it was different. To be honest, I thought initial set-up was complicated ( compared to CFS/2 ) as my intent was to explore the game later, as I just wanted to hop in and go flying and shoot something right now. As I began to learn the game in earnest, I found the learning curve pretty steep...but man was it worth it. I quickly found this to be light years ahead of anything else I've ever seen....for all the reasons stated so far in this thread. Getting the patches with extra A/C was a thrill as well.

I love this game. I had some sound issues ( stuttering sound unless I set the speakers to "headphones"...even though my rig has 5 speakers ) but the play and graphics work flawlessly.

I want to eventually get FB, but the honeymoon isn't over yet, and quite frankly I'm somewhat put off by all the discussions about whether A/C XYZ is modeled correctly, and the fact that I've heard the sounds are better in the original IL2. I do like the idea of all the extra A/C in FB.

All in all...it blew me away. Everything else pales.

crazyivan1970
02-11-2004, 11:27 AM
Great stuff BC!

Prior to IL-2 i was mainly playing WW2Online, with mix of some AcesHigh and CFS2 / Fighter Ace combo hehe. I forgot who and where posted a link to IL2 demo when it just came out. What can i tell, i was blown away. That was pretty much the end of my subscriptions to other games lol..

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horseback
02-11-2004, 12:49 PM
As I recall, I saw either an ad in a magazine or a blurb at one of the aircraft sites I frequented at the time, saying it was a fantastic air combat flight sim. I had been playing CFS 1 & 2, and a LOT of Red Baron 3D (in spite of the sound disappearing problem on my Celeron 900MHz rig), and thought "...hey, cool" and checked out their website.

I was hooked, but my on board video was of insufficient horsepower to run the game (I think it was 4Mb shared video RAM). I saved my pennies and bought a PCI MX200 card with a whopping 32Mb RAM, and added 64 Mb of RAM to the motherboard, and when the game was on sale at Best Buy for only $29.99, I snapped it up, and took a solid two weeks to get it to run for more than 10 minutes, or about halfway through the first training mission.

I finally got it going in DirectX, using my Sidewinder Precision2 stick, and I've never looked back. I am now the proud owner/builder of a couple of computers (one Athlon XP and one P4)running over 2.4GHz, with a Gig of DDR RAM, GeForce 4ti video cards, and Audigy soundcards, mainly in pursuit of better game performance.

When you throw in the CH Products rig and the TrackIR, that initial $29.99 has cost me over $2500.

Do I regret it? Not for a minute!

Cheers

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jung0l
02-11-2004, 01:19 PM
Man, from Air Warrior 3, to CFS2, loved nothing more than battling against Human opponents online. So whenever someone in Zone lobby would ask "Have u tried IL2 yet?", I would dismiss it as a boring single player offline ground attack game. I figure if I'm gonna fly by myself, then I rather fly jets .But i was little curious, seeing that it had won Flight Sim of the year, but i was having too much fun with CFS2 online, that is, if could could land in game with no/few cheats.

So, this past May in Best Buy picking up a few DVD's, I notice IL2 in the little reduced box for only $19.99, and said what the heck. Waited for the weekend, checked it out started installing it, and noticed, "Hey, it has La5FN, the first plane I flew online in Air Warrior 2, AND u can play online!" So I immediatly installed and reinstalled Ubi.com software, and without even testing it offline headed straight to an online game. Took me about five minutes to ask how do u even get this thing to taxi faster than 10 kph in the grass, and another 5 or 10 mintues to get into air without crashing into somebody or getting vulched twice(Ubi). I finally got in the air to discover how tricky it was to even hit somebody with the physics of the bullet/tracers, much less avoid these yaks. No more kill boxes, u had to aim specifically. I started to become intrigued; I was usually pretty damned good at flight sims, but THIS one was really sophisticated, trying to fly and fight all drunk wasn't gonna cut it here. Hmmm,...maybes I should practice offline a little.

Saw a P39 with a BAD *** paint scheme, and I wondered if he had hacked it into his program. He informed me that there was all kinds of skins
on sites like IL2skins and such, and was amazed again at all the detailed work, so as a fluke, I searched for some Tuskegee airman skins. Again to my surprise, they had them for 4 different kinds of airplanes, 4 different squadrons, insignias, and pilot skins! That really impressed me.

Finally got decent enough shot to get a kill here and there on the arcade servers, but i wondered why u couldn't record tracks online, which I loved about AW, and why it was always so few people here, and so many people in Forgotten Battles. After about a month I realized that FB was apparently a huge upgrade over IL2. So I splurged the $39 bucks, and after a month and a half of frustration, upgraded my RAM. Made all the difference in the world. Discoved Hyperlobby, and then this forum. The thing is, i was so busy trying to get kills and more kills on arcade servers, I never took time to notice all the details until I started trying the TX-OC3 server. After that, I really became more impressed with every flight i took, and every single aspect i discovered......

The lighting and shading effects at sunsets..

The complete detail of the terrain, from mountaintops to lakes and trees from above, especially in 3D glasses..

The expended cartridges falling from underneath firing aircraft..

The first time I saw a Pe-8 drop a 5000Kg....

Thunderstorms, lightning, snow, searchlights...

and on, and on, and on.....

Sorry to write a book, but man, Oleg and those cats really had their sh_t together when they came up with this sim. It takes threads like this one sometimes to remind everybody despite the flaws that people seem to endlessly rattle on about, we have a bad *** piece of simulation here. I can't even comprehend had tight BOB is gonna be..dag.

BaldieJr
02-11-2004, 05:10 PM
A friend gave me a warezzz copy of Il2 because he thought it was dumb, and he knew i played a few other sims.

He saw the intro and decided it sucked.

I liked the game, but agreed that the intro sucked.

So I bought it the following week along with an X45. My dad got the warezxz cd, and bought the game 3 weeks later (like me, he wanted the manual). I think my brother has the CD now. I think he got it from my brother-in-law, who also has a legit copy of IL2.

Sorry about mentioning warezzzes.

PS- The game was awesome compared to F-16 MRF and crap like that. A-10 cuba was kinda fun though.

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XyZspineZyX
02-11-2004, 05:24 PM
My first impression was a fairly good one.

I'd been reading all the previews and was excited that it was on a theatre that *cough* wasn't overrun with P51s and Spits. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

My first flight didn't go so well: I thought I could port over my Warbirds joystick settings no problem. This produced an "uebersensitivity" that made every little twitch a flat spin of death. So, I had to spend some time working out new stick scalings.

The graphics seemed impressive, but to me that's worth absolutely NOTHING if the flight modeling isn't on.

It took me 5 or 6 tries before even getting a P-39 off the ground. There was some sort of tailwheel bug with that in the beta, but I expected it to be hard to fly anyway...and it was.

The 109s felt pretty much like I expected. I liked how all the planes had a "heavy" feel, as if their engines needed to work to lift the birds in the air. Later, I'd discover some "on rails" feel in the FM and with the AI, but for my first impression the feel of flight seemed to be there in spades.

That was the IL-2 beta.

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As for FB:

I could have burned the disks. The FMs were *all* totally wrong. They must have substituted the Moon's gravity or something... no planes had any E bleed (remember the Hurricanes of death and hang-on-their-props derring do? P-40s that could keep a nose up?)

After a few flights in that, I decided to sit it out and wait for the first patch. No sense in flying it. It was 'orrible.

Kampfmeister
02-11-2004, 06:30 PM
First started flying flight sims after I finally got a new computer (600 MHz/256 ram) in 2000. I was at Best Buy and was looking at getting either Jane's or CFS1. I picked Jane's because I thought it was a better value being packaged with two other games. Fell in love with Jane's right away, and still one of my favorites http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Something about the melancholy music. Got CFS1 later because I wanted to fly Hurricane's and 109E's. Big mistake. Still regret it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Also got EAW. Much better but no Jane's. Still in some respects it reminds me of an earlier version of IL2. From there I graduated to CFS2. Pretty good and a lot of fun, but still didn't compare to Jane's.

Finally sometime at the end of 2000, one of the guys at work brought in a GameSpot magazine. After looking through it I decided to check out their website. That's where I first heard about IL2 and that it would be out in the near future. I was immediately interested since it was about the eastern front, and no one had ever made a sim about this theater of the war before. I downloaded the demo, which took hours with my slow 56k and started to play. Thought the realism was fantastic, even better than Jane's, but that it was also a lot more difficult. I had a frustrating time just trying to shoot down my first ac. Even when I got on their six it still took a lot of effort. First I couldn't figure out the sight on the 109 so my aim was way off. Then come to find out I was trying to down ac with only my two peashooter mg's in the cowl. Didn't realize I had to press another button just to fire the cannon http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif However, I did manage to shoot down a number of planes this way. Things got much better after that. Played the demo for quite a while even after IL2 came out. Sorry, I like to wait a while until some of the bugs were ironed out of a game. Finally got it, patched it, checked out the forum for info, which helped me solve a number of problems I was having, and just generally had a good time. I got FB about 6 months ago and like they say: I haven't looked back, and haven't played another flight sim since http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I can hardly wait for the next installment.

Dash_C.
02-11-2004, 07:09 PM
My first impressions of Il2 came from the demo. I ran it on my Voodoo 3 machine and I was dissapointed. It seemed so much different than what I was expecting. I don't think I even took the time to takeoff. I deleted the demo. About 6 months later I reinstalled it after finding no good WWII games. This time I made an effort to learn it, and after I figured out how to fly, I was hooked. I still remember pressing Ctrl+E, expecting to start my engine. Anyways, I bought Il2 then FB within 6 months of each other.

Showtime_100
02-11-2004, 08:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>It took me 5 or 6 tries before even getting a P-39 off the ground. There was some sort of tailwheel bug with that in the beta, but I expected it to be hard to fly anyway...and it was. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
P-39...tailwheel? Ahh, I know what the problem was. You were taxiing around in reverse.

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Bearcat99
02-11-2004, 08:47 PM
And the clouds...Ohhhh maaan the clouds... the first time I panned through a cloud while paused I was totally floored. The fact that you didnt have hit boxes..... that was a biggie..the fact that you could actually collide with someone...and not neccessarilly explode... just like in real life. You might loose a wing or part of a wing...or your rudder... UNHEARD OF!!!! I was used to hitboxes... get within 10 yards and BOOM!! I had flown Warbirds II on my 486 years before... that was my first WW2 sim and I was deeply impressed because they had 2 P-51s and one of them was a Redtail. My first sim period was the Sega F-16 Falcon... basically like that Amiga thing mentioned earlier... CFS1 was the first thing that resembled a real sim and I though the graphics were great when i first booted it up....and it was about a year or so old when I first got it. But IL2 was like........... going into another dimension...where you just cant imagine what you will find in there.... Real time..... I set a stock coop..never left the runway..just expeimenting... I set the time for the time in my world... and the IL2 clock follwed it.. The first thing i did when I woke up was go downstairs and check the computer....sure enough...... it was morning.... Un frickin real..... and FB is even better IMO.... mindblowing... the best $$ I ever spent in my life.


Thanks guys for keeping this thread on track..... Keep em coming!! Maybe everyone who flies in here will eventually post in it. Very good stuff....

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redcloud63
02-11-2004, 09:13 PM
a year and a half ago,didn't know a yhing about
computers. didnt't own one didn't want one. was
visiting a relative and he had cfs1. played with it and thought it was the coolest thing i'd seen in quite a while. a few months later i moved back in with the folks to help take care of my mom when she became seriosly ill. strated
messing around with her ibm aptiva 550 mgh 128
ram ect.ect. bought cfs2 and thought the graghics were great, had a lot of fun. got myself this compaq presario and cfs3 was ready to rock. what a piece of crap that game is.
was given FB as a gift. and was blown away by the realism. since then if spent every spare moment trying to tweak this box to get better
fps. as a result i've learned more about 'puters
in the last six months than all my years combined. 90% of what i know came from applying the tips and advice that is generously given away here. thanx to all of you for freely helping me to become computer litterit. looking forward to whatever this game becomes, and to the day when i can build my own rig just to fly with.

Maj_Death
02-11-2004, 11:50 PM
I bought IL2 about 2 months after it came out. Before I bought it I was a Flanker 2.x pilot and also played JWW2F and EAW alot. I bought IL2 because I had never flown on the russian front before so I was interested in it simply because it was different. But after about 2 hours of playing I got bored. IL2 in its original state really wasn't all that good and even now the offline play is poor. The AI was crap and the campaign was worthless. This drove me away from it for a few weeks. I then played it again and decided to try it online. I was then hooked. Offline play may have been terrible but online it was fun. Like most people at the time I started out with the La-5FN and various Yak's but my first specialty plane was the Mig-3U. The axis was always the underdogs though so I switched to flying 109's next. In EAW, JWW2F and even AOE I flew the Fw-190A mostly but IL2 only had the A4 and it was terribly undermodeled. With new patches we eventually got a clean fighter Fw-190A5 but even it was still undermodeled. I switched to the 190A's after a month of flying 109's because I wanted a change and because the 109 lacked firepower. After a while I discovered the infamous flap trick and perfected its exploit. I bought FB primarly for the new Fw-190's and the Me-262. I was dissappointed with the state FB was released in but it was an improvement over IL2 none the less. It wasn't until 1.1 beta that I was fully satisfied with FB. Now FB is near perfect except for a few nagging bugs and oversights such as the still unfixed Mig-3 cockpit and the craptacular Fw-190 damage models.

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SeaFireLIV
02-12-2004, 04:36 AM
Well, what else?

Well the way planes will break up depending where hit, I`ve not managed to count all the variations. The AI, though, people love to moan about it, is very challenging- they fight like they WANT to live!

The ability to fly so many aircraft. The detail of the bombers. The feeling of victory when you get a kill on realistic settings, because you did something RIGHT to get it. Listening to the screams of pilots on their frequency! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/icon_twisted.gif

The atmosphere and immersiveness, which is more important to me than how perfect the FMs are. The fact it`s taught me a thing or two about the war on the Eastern front. It`s unique feel.
And of course the clouds...

I mean, there`s so much. People might complain on somethings but that`s cos they just want even better from what`s the best!

And I haven`t even started on online battles yet!

Well, I`m off for 2 weeks, upgrading PC again!

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Tully__
02-12-2004, 04:58 AM
I came from CFS2 offline & EAW online. My first impression of IL2 (the original) was that either I needed a new computer or it was impossibly hard, possibly both.

Turned out I need at least a new vid card and it wasn't so hard, I just wasn't understanding as much as I'd thought about how real aircraft fly (particularly the heavily laden IL2 that you fly in the first single mission http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

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Alexi_Alx_Anova
02-12-2004, 05:36 AM
I also started with a ZX Spectrum back in the early-mid 80's. Remember when the "map" was just a runway and a radio tower made out of simple lines?? It was AMAZING! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I think I flew some MS flightsims on a Commodor 64 but the real flight sim experience came during my PhD back in the late 80's, (or was it very early 90's?), when Dynamix's B17 came out. That was great displacement therapy.

As a postdoc I had access to a Mac and so played with F16 and A10 Attcak. Finally bought my first computer in '95 but stupidly put OS2 onto it. Messed with Comanche and not much else since it was a fairly lame system.

When I got my lecturer's position in 2000 was the first time I could afford a decent computer (a Dell Dimension). For years I'd been watching flightsims pass me by because I didn't have a computer, so now I splurged and bought CFS1, even though CFS2 was out. I thought I'd start at the beginning and move up. It lasted about a day. What a dissapointment. Once bitten twice shy so I ignored CFS2 and CFS3 after reading the reviews. Fiddled with B17 II for a while but mainly as a tailgunner! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

I can't remember if I played the IL2 demo or just jumped in and bought it. I suspect the latter. My first impressions were, "Finally a flightsim that is believable and to a large degree lives up to my graphics desires." (I was relatively late in discovering IL2 (6 months after release) since I was spending so much time with Operation Flashpoint.)

Pretty soon came a better joystick (my V.1 CH Flightstick from '95 still works though!), CH pedals, TrackIR (just upgraded to TrackIR2), and later this year, a CH throttle and Fighter stick.

Also a few hundred pounds worth of WWI aviation books.

Consider me here for the foreseeable future. Still fly like crap though! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

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Bearcat99
02-12-2004, 05:45 AM
Sheeesh Dynamix...how could I forget my obsession with..... F-117 Stealth... The only thing that saved me from that one was the fact that my computer crashed and I didnt have the money to fix it. Besides...my marriage was on the rocks anyweay and the last place I wanted to be was home...... if someone had told me at that time I would be living in another state, in my own home,with a wild and crazy 6 yr old boy, a great church and a wife I was actually in love with...THE SAME WIFE I COULDNT EVEN HOLD A CONVERSATION WITH.. I would have told them they were nuts... but ahhhh grace...... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I would come home and boot that thing up and it was pretty nice..... other than LOMAC..which I havent even gotten into very much it was the only jet sim I had...then I got Warbirds and my jetsim career took a back seat...... and THEN my computer crashed...... yeah thats what happened.... I think I would probably cry if my computer crashed now...LMAO..then I would commandeer the wifes!! LOL... "Sorry honey...this is a matter of national security!!!" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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HH Quazi
02-12-2004, 05:51 AM
The first time I played it, I had to keep asking myself if this game could be this good or am I just enamored by having a new game and will probably get tired of it like all the rest. Well 9 mos. later, and the fact that it has been the only sim I've played in 9 mos, I guess I have my answer. This game is that good. But I must say that this forum has made it that much better. Kinda shortened the learning curve. This was my first experience of online play because I had a cable connection for the first time. I could have tried online play with other sims I owned through those times. I just didn't think 56k could give me good results so I never bothered. I never had so much fun getting my arse handed to me in a cockpit. Needless to say, taking off 50 times a day made me a veteran of taking off in just a few days of playing. lol S!

PBNA-Boosher
02-12-2004, 05:58 AM
Personally guys, I started out with CFS2, but transferred to IL2 Sturmovik when it first came out. I loved it ever since. FB was the game that brought me online however, and now I find that it's a ton more fun. I'm still experimenting to find my convergence nitch, but I think I've got it now. 170 meters. Anyway, the thing that won me over for IL2 definitely had to be the P-39, and for FB, the P-40. I must admit, when I tried out the P-40 for the first time, I took it in a dive to see it go, and I loved it, it did so well! Until it blew apart at 500 kph, but I still loved it and it is my main plane now! I'll use it very often even when my real plane comes out, the P-38. Convergence really isn't my thing, and I'm good with multiple engine aircraft as well as bombers. I think I'll be a great P-38 pilot.

Ankanor
02-12-2004, 06:24 AM
My first ride was on a computer that even today I cannot say what specs it had. "F-15 strike Eagle II", loved the thing, though it went like slideshow, I got to understand how I could evade the missiles of the Su-27 and MiG-29, loved the career(if you die you get RIP by the medals, if you crash 3 times you F-15 and survive, you are sent to paperwork). Then my pc was obsolete, I went to study in another town, and went at i-net and gaming clubs, when I saw the Janes fightersWW2 I spent a lot of money playing it, then I was preparing to study in Germany and I went to a German library, found some magazines and in one of them I saw the CFS2. I went to the official site, there was a link to the IGN.com, I went there and saw a link for a game called IL-2 Sturmovik. I d/l the demo, played it on a friends pc. I remember there were 3 men around me as I got in the QMB selected a Me109, loaded... And off I was outside a Stuka(I am serious), Flak began bursting all around, after 3 minutes of flying around eventually got shot down. And I was like, What? I never read I will have the Stuka. And Why cant I enter the pit? I became good in the QMB, I could kill 9 LaGGs in a 16vs16 fight in me109G-2. Once I used limited ammo and downed 5(I had forgotten I had enabled lim ammo). Then I bought the original IL-2. All went good, except that on the last missions I was having my *** served hot and flaming by some Yaks with gray skins... I stopped playing for about 2 days, all the time thinking what is wrong?(I must confess, I had almost every realistic feature off) So on the 3rd day I decided to enter high speed, altitude advantage and resolve to vertical ACMs only. The G-6AS was unstoppable again-3 Yak-3s in one mission.
Then came FB...

and like Rhorta's sig said "The rest is history" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

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Some things are worth fighting for.

Faceless13
02-12-2004, 09:52 AM
Well, the very first "flight sim" I played(well ya probably cant consider this a flight sim) was Top Gun on my old commodore 64 years ago. Actually it was very fun!!!!! Fast forward to the year 2002. I picked up the first IL2 and bought a 100 buck flight stick to go with it. This was basically my fist real flight sim and it bothered the hell out of me. Everytime I tried to dogfight I would stall out, and on top of that if I luckily got behind an enemy aircraft I couldnt hit em for the life of me!! Well, that 100 buck flight stick certainly went to waste because I traded IL2 in for something and I cant quite remember what happened to the stick. Well, I joined the military on Jan 13 2003 and just 3 months ago I've finally gotten into a position where I could start playing games again. Bought a few titles, all war games I love em. Combat Mission, Squad Assualt, things of that nature. I'm training as an Air Traffic controller now and I think that working with aircraft has gotten me more into the flight thing, because I was having urges to play flight sims. I wandered into the local EB the other day and saw IL2 on the shelf calling my name. I wanted to redeem myself because the first time I was complete crap at it. Picked it up once more and this time a 20 buck flight stick mind you(Saitek Cyborg Graphite) and now I'm hooked. It seems I have more patience as I can actually dogfight, takeoff, and land!!!!!! Still not the greatest but I'm doing better, and its way more enjoyable now. Just need American and British missions now and I'm set.

1.JaVA_Hornet
02-12-2004, 10:45 AM
Hi,
The first flightsim was Bomber on the
C64. Flying with a f4 phantom against migs and
so on. Grapics were very poor. But the gameplay
was good.

On a gamesite i read about il2. So i bought it
and since then i dont play any other filghtsim.
I have bought lock on but it is still in the box. Maybe i give it to a friend because all my time goes to il2fb.

O L E G Y O U C H A N G E D M Y L I F E

1.JaVA_hornet
The Netherlands

J_Flyer
02-12-2004, 01:55 PM
I found IL2 by accident
I have CFS1 and no other flight sim, although I love flying and have experienced the real thing (actually controlling anf lying, not like in a 747!)
I was out shopping with my mum ( im 14 ok no harsh jokes!) and got bored. I went to look at some games and tucked away in the sale was a wierd game with a russian name. I looked at it and it seemed pretty good. I found the price tag and it read 7.99. I had a tenner so I gave it a try.
I took it home and just thought WOW!!!!!! comaired to CrapFlightSimulator 1 it was brilliant. the graphics were brilliant and I got FB for christmas after having forgotten about IL2 for H&D2. I was blown away.....

The propellor is just a big fan to keep the pilot cool.. when it stops you can see the pilot start sweating!

Indianer.
02-12-2004, 02:00 PM
bought the origional the day it came out. The rest is history.

"Wer auf die preussische Fahne schwort, hat nichts mehr, was ihm selber gehort"

JV44Rall
02-12-2004, 02:17 PM
Over ten years ago I started on Air Warriors, where you paid ($4.80/hour iirc) to fly online on the GEnie server. The b&w graphics were just stick figures, the FM bizzare, dial up connections only, everyone warped and I loved it!

After incurring around $4,000 in charges in one year, my career as an online pilot was cut short by law school.

I later played a couple of other sims, but RL left little time for virtual flying.

In 2002, I read in a computer magazine about IL2 and how great it was. I downloaded the demo version and was completely blown away by the look, smoothness and immersion factor.

Of course, not being used to a more advanced flight sim experience, I crashed the first twenty times I tried to take off from a grass strip. But it was still a blast.

HalfAsleep
02-12-2004, 02:29 PM
I was born in 1976, and so I got to be extremely lucky growing up in the golden era of the Commodore 64 and up, plus the NES and so on.

The first simulator I ever saw was on a pc that a guy renting a room in my parents' basement had. I think it was Battle of Britain. I thought it was so fun, especially since I have always had a dream of flying or becoming a pilot.

Things moved on and I got myself the famous Amiga 500+ after playing for years on my C64 and (S)NES. The first home computer with a dedicated chip each for sound and graphics, and loads of memory by the standards of the time. I remember having to sell a kidney to afford the 512Kb upgrade to play the hottest games.
One of those games were F-117 and F-15. I played a lot of other simulation games as well, like silent hunter, the submarine simulator. I LOVE simulation games.
Anyway...after selling my amiga i did not really get a PC until my studies in 97. There were some cool/good simulations out, but I never got around to try them. I got my hands on Fly! and one or two others, but never tried the CFS series for some reason. Probably because I could not afford a joystick. Besides, another famous game came out called Half-Life. You may have heard of it. My nick comes from playing that game way too much.

Anyway, I knew when I saw IL2 that it looked good, and that I wanted it, so I bought it almost the instant it came out. I had some experience in flight simulators, and I have always had a gentle approach. Therefore I did not have too much trouble taking off and landing as some people here have been describing. But it is definetly a challenging sim with a great flight model. Probably cause I always thought making it back in one piece in the F-117 was the most exciting thing, and those planes were tough to land on the amiga with realistic landings turned on!! I get reminded of the complexity of FB every time I manage to persuade my brother to have a go. He constantly stalls, never hits anything, gets shot down and have never managed to take off. To his defense he has never played flight sims or been interested in flight.

And by the way, although more arcadish, I loved Wings for Amiga as well, what a brillinant game. Almost like a pilot RPG during WW1. Nice try CFS3, but Wings did it before you and it was more fun than you will ever be.

Although I could take off and land, that did not mean I could actually kill anything, and I truly started appreciating the "get even closer" rule before opening up. Although shooters like Half-Life can be fun and hectic, there is nothing like the satisfaction in a long dogfight that gives you a kill. Oleg just kept improving the game, although several people kept nitpicking, I just flew with what I got, since I wasn't about to make a new flight simulator myself (being a programmer I KNOW the amount of work it takes).

For some reason I alwasy have liked the Luftwaffe birds, even though I am from Norway which was occupied during the war. They were just so brutal and elegant at the same time, and instilled fear in many a pilot. Of course, Olegs' sim opened my eyes to the Soviet contribution as well. They had some fine planes and a whole different philosophy about how to fight a war. And when things could not get better they released FB. I was in seventh heaven. Even more allied planes which I love as well, and damage models beyond belief (although I really feel the 190 deserves a complex DM as well.) My only gripe, I promise. I fly with what I got, and have just started to fly the 190 the last couple of days.
Man is that thing brutal when you land shots at convergence!
I just love this sim!! When it gets a tad tedious, just switch planes and it is a brand new sim all over again with new challenges and nuances.

And of course playing online with real people and "real" tactics is a joy. And of course the detail and eye candy is a killer as well. I expect I will get even more enjoyment out of this gem when I upgrade my graphics card. There is nothing like seeing your tracers land in the engine block of another plane and watch thick black smoke pluming out, only to burst into flames 30 seconds later while the pilot jumps out!! No RTB for you!! S!!

I don't think I will ever get tired of this sim, and Oleg deserves a big THANK YOU!!!

People can say what they want but this is hands down the best sim ever. If things are wrong I don't mind people making Oleg aware of it, but show respect and do it in a proper way, and in the meantime...fly with what you got because that is all we have.

Again....THANK YOU OLEG!!!!

HalfAsleep out...sorry for the extremely looong story.

[This message was edited by HalfAsleep on Thu February 12 2004 at 01:40 PM.]

BaldieJr
02-12-2004, 02:41 PM
Anyone play Harrier Assault (super Vga, no less)?

I played that on a 486 SX laptop with 4mb RAM and greyscale display. That game was darned good. Landing the harrier was nuts!

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Capt._Tenneal
02-12-2004, 03:02 PM
Great thread, Bearcat. This should be a candidate for a "sticky". Newly registered folks, like me, can use this as a first post to introduce themselves and how they came into the Il-2 world.

I knew of Il-2 when it first came out, but never picked it up, since unlike a lot of you I was not an old time flight simmer. I was (and am) still into RPGs and Wargames (Talonsoft, SSI, etc.). The only other flight sim I got into was Jane's WW II fighters, only because before Il-2 came out it had the one feature I wanted from a combat flight sim -- an autopilot AI that not only does the routine stuff (takeoff, landing, warping to a new location) but one that actually FIGHTS. Sometimes I just want to watch a dogfight instead of be in one.

Anyway, this past summer a co-worker gave me his copy of Il-2/S, and I was amazed just like most of you. I still fly offline because I don't want to embarass myself online yet, and real life interferes too much.

I later bought Il-2 FB and even got broadband connected to my PC so I can d/load the massive patches. What can I say, I love almost everything about it : lifelike aircraft (the weathered skins),FM and DM (maybe that's because I don't know any better), the QMB, campaigns, the community support, developer support. I am truly converted to the temple of 1C:Maddox.

SeaFireLIV
02-12-2004, 06:19 PM
BaldieJR, I couldn`t quite remember if I`d played that Harrier sim, til I saw your pic, and yes I did!

It was pretty good for it`s time and dynamic. You had to try and win over a small Country called Timor, I think.

I was a bit too young and too impatient with it and my way ancient PC was a slide show, but I gave it a good few flights I remember. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SeaFireLIV...

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Snoop_Baron
02-12-2004, 09:56 PM
I happened to see IL2 on a game rack one day and I thought to myself. "I haven't played a new game in ages, and my last and only fighter aircraft sim was Blue Max on my 486 and I really love airplanes, and this game looks better than this MS one and I don't like MS, ah what the heck I'll buy it" That's the sort of rambling that was going on in my head. I normaly don't buy things before doing some research but I couldn't resist the thought of flying again, I had such fond memories of Blue Max http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Well I started the game up and I have to say I was turned of by the horrible music (sorry, I've since then replaced all music with some nice classical stuff a guy put together) and the uninspiring intro. But I didn't let that get me to down on the game as I had played other great games that had horrible intros and bad music. Well it didn't take me long to get hooked http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. I got FB soon after it came out and a new computer just to play the darn game. I'm sure I'll buy all the expansion packs if Oleg keeps this up and I'll be sure to get BoB http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif In fact it is now my favorite game of all time, without a doubt.

They really need to get better music for the game and a much better intro movie. There are plenty of excellent ones from the community that would make a much better choice http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

:FI:Snoop Baron
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scout1892
02-12-2004, 10:13 PM
I started with flight sims on my IBM PC (before the XT.. gotta love it! no hard drive!!) there were two that I used to play (even thought they are barely flight sims by any means) Sopwith Camel and Striker. From there I moved to a 486 with Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe and Chuck Yeagers Air Combat (i think that was the title??) which was really cool. After my next computer upgrade I was playing Microsoft Flight Simulator (when it came on 3 floppies). It took awhile before I got back to flight simulators after being bored with the MS simulator my next sim was Janes ATF which I really liked. My Fiance ended up buying me all the Janes games which I had lots of fun with my favorite always being World War 2 Fights, even though I played Fights Anthology more becuase my uncle had it and we played online. When i upgraded to my current PC (P4 2.6 1gb Ram 360gb HD, Sound Blaster Extigy, and 128mb Nvidia Geforce FX5600) World War 2 Fighters and most other janes games stopped playing properly. World war 2 fights has lots of visual disturbances. I moved from there to MMORPG type games, UO, Everquest then in CGW I saw an add for Fighter Ace 3.6 well unfortunatly I stopped being a computer/network technician to go back to working on the ambulance as an EMT so I got rid of all the pay to play games and was bored for awhile.. I downloaded every demo I could get my hands on and was unimpressed... jets were boring... LOMAC seemed to hard and being jets no fun.. I like the up close and personal of WW2 planes. IL2's Demo got played then uninstalled and I moved on.. only gave it about 2 minutes couldn't get off the ground. I was in compUSA and saw IL2 in a 3 pack for 19.99 and almost bought it.. took my wife to the mall and found IL2-FB at EBX for 19.99 and decided to give it a shot.. only 20 bucks.. Loved it from the moment I put it in.. I have been taking lots of screen shots and sending them to friends and family trying to get them to join me on this game.. LOTS of fun. The only thing that is disappointing is that my MS SideWinder Force Feedback 2 doesn't seem to be feeding back.. anyone know a way to fix that??

Sorry for being so long winded.. hehe but I tend to ramble and go off course.. have fun.. I'll try not to look like to much of an idiot when i come online later this week..

Sturmtrooper
02-12-2004, 10:25 PM
I started on CFS2 .
Got pretty good and joined a squad .
Wanted to see what EAW was like , bought it , fun !
Next sim was Janes WW2 Fighters . Great also !!!
Then I heard about this thing called Il-2 Sturmovik (?) from a flight magazine .
I bought it as soon as it came out .
Holy crap !!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
I wonder if my CFS2 squadmates miss me ???
I could hardly wait for Forgotten Battles to hit the shelves .
Santa Claus gave it to me for Christmas a year ago ! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I was and am still BLOWN AWAY !!!
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E_Temperament
02-13-2004, 01:13 AM
My first flight sim was fleet defender by Microprose. I loved it so much I decided to get the demo of EAW. My poor machine couldn't run it, a very fast pentium 100 cpu with a 486dx mobo http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif that was back in the good old days of the last century 1998. Well I upgraded my machine and forgot about EAW and took up quake2 then quake3 and well another upgrade for quake3 to run smoothly. Then back in May 24th 2003 on a Saturday I bought IL-2 Sturmovik FB, I bought it cause I read about it in the Atomic MPC Magazine and it looked awesome. My first flight was as a bomber in the Heinkel He 111 I couldn't even get the bombs to fall and we got shot down by some smart arse AI. My first solo flight was online in a p39 it took a couple of attempts to taxi and get airborne I still love the p39 as it was my first take off and well crash landing. Then the next plane to fly was the Me 262 I found it so much easier to fly than the p39 until I had to land it, what a challenge. It actually made my heart pound and I started sweating profusely "panic attack". Anyway that was 38 weeks ago now come tomorrow Saturday 14 February at 12.30pm. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Arnie_OT
02-13-2004, 04:05 AM
Very interesting topic and since BC wants everyone to post in here, here goes. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

First of all I'll tell you that I never have been into flightsimulators, up till some months ago its been RTS all the way, Dune II, Total Annihilation, Sudden Strike and ofcourse the C&C games were great, some games brilliant, with Total Annihilation up front. Anyways, playing Sudden Strike online also brought me to the forum of CDV, the publisher. The OT part of that forum got me and its almost always been a great place to hang around. Then after some time people on that forum started playing IL2 together, I dont know how it started, but they played quite often and always posted screenshots and stories about their fights on the OT forum. Now I've always had something with planes, building scale models, visiting airshows and such. So I was very interested in this game they played, but unfortunatly I didnt have the money to get started on the game. Tried the demo of IL2 to see if I could get myself going, but flying it with the keyboard and seeing those enemy dots zooming past me I though it was impossible to ever fly it properly. So I decided to wait untill I got some money together to get a stick. Could download FB from one of the players from the OT forum and got cracking.
Now I was able to join in the fun that those CDV OT forum pilots were having and what else can I say than the period in which I was learning to fly I was a great target to practise on. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Luckily this is changing a little bit and I'm actually getting kills online, boy, what a satisfaction. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
So now I will have to buy FB along with the Aces pack soon. And I pay gladly.

Now you ofcourse expect me to say that I will never play RTS's again. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Well, I can tell you that is far from the truth, but the IL2 series will never leave my harddrive. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Das_alte_leid
02-13-2004, 04:10 PM
Hey guys.

I went to Game, and tried to buy Wolfenstien, but the guy didn't think I was 15. H said something to the effect of "is there anything else here you like the look of" (patronising bastart), and I saw the Il-2 box, and having CFS2 I thought it would be a good idea. Took it home, played it, then took it back.

******

I bought it again about 4 months later, and realised the gravity of my monumental mistake. I got FB the day it came out, and it is stealing my life! It is SO good. I have been a forum lurker for a loong time, and you guys have provided me with many laughs. SeaFireLIV, is there any chance of you sending me some of your amazing artwork. I absolutely love it. It would be appreciated so much.

Oleg, you are... I cannot express how... hmm

Oleg, you are the MAN!
I hope you visit this thread, because it really does show you our love of this sim.

THANK YOU!!!!
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Das Alte Leid.

Wir bist das leiben?

CzechTexan
02-14-2004, 04:27 AM
Interesting thread...I've read them all! Now I suppose it's my turn http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hats off to the Russian guys @ 1C! This experience is more than I ever dreamed of. I'm 35, and thinking, why couldn't they make toys like this when i was a kid? Ah, but age gives us a better appreciation for what we have. When I was a kid (now older but still young at heart)I would fantasize about airwar WW2. I built plastic models and read books - that was the closest I could get to it. I became more interested in the Eastern Front as I got older. There was so little info on it back in the days, how sad it was. Gradually more books on the subject became available. Then I got a computer in '97 and was in heaven when I got the East Front game. WW2 started to come alive.

Then IL2 came out, saw it in the magazines, but my comp was too old so I put it off. I knew I would get it some day when I got a new comp that could support it. Finally in August '03 I got it all. My lifelong dreams have come true with IL2FB.

My first impressions was that it is so life-like and difficult for a beginner to learn how to fly. It takes practice to learn to fly this just like in real life. I got killed frequently and it hurt http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Another thing was that it's difficult to try and shoot down an airplane...with everything happening so fast...HOW DID THE REAL PILOTS EVER DO IT! Practice makes it easier. For you new guys just beginning and frustrated with it all: hang in there and practice to get better because there is an amazing world inside this sim.
I love flying every plane and learning it's characteristics. There is always something new to discover. I've recently learned how to create my own missions using the full mission builder which is an awesome thing since I like to recreate historical battles. I love the skins and the ability to choose from a huge variety. I enjoy the fellowship of the IL2 community. There are so many helpful and friendly people and I've learned a great deal just reading the forums. 1C is very generous with the add-ons/updates-this makes them seem like real, caring people, not some business just here to make a buck.

For my system upgrades, i've added a MS sidewinder forcefeedback joystick (which i think is excellent), more RAM, and some day a better video card.
My biggest problem was finding a good program for the view. I got a webcam for the cam2pan program but didn't like it much b/c of the lighting factor...i also tried Newview for a better view with hat but felt restricted changing views to the gunsight...so now i'm hooked on FB ViewPlus, the chinese hat program, and I'm happy.

This sim has become part of my life. I fly regularly and check forums for what's new and also download awesome skins. Spasibo to Oleg and our Russian friends at 1C! My childhood dreams have become reality.

***
80% of all German casualties in WW2 were on the Eastern Front.
I need to make my pic smaller before i can post it.
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Urist
02-14-2004, 01:27 PM
I was salivating over the idea of this game from the first second I heard of it..

When it first came out I remember going to futureshop looking for it and getting frustrated that they didn't have any copies of it in.

They eventually got one in and I bought it right away, took it home to my Duron 800 with 128 megs of ram and I think I had a Geforce MX400 or something at the time.

Tried to take off in the training mission, flew off the runway and crashed. All the while this was happening my jaw was on the floor, I couldn't beleive what I was seeing and hearing.

After a quick look at the control setup to find the rudder controls I managed to get in the air and promptly started blowing away my own airbase..

Next up was the Me109, in the original IL2 even getting that bird into the air was incredibly difficult. That and the training bird had gunpods, once I did get airborne I found the external view and my jaw hit the floor again when I pressed the trigger...

Muzzle flashes, shell casings, and tracers oh my. I spent most of the time in Il2 flying offline, I generally got slaughtered online.

Franzen
02-14-2004, 09:07 PM
Hi,

What was my very first impression http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif hmmmmmm.........., let me think. OH YES! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif I remember now! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif CooooooooooooooL!, Ahhhhh! memories.

Fritz Franzen

kwaichain007
02-15-2004, 01:41 AM
First impressions. I guess it starts with putting my pc gaming into context. I've been playing pc games for about 10 years. Always Arcade shoot 'em ups. Bought A first person shooter from Ubi, and stumbled across another company's flight sim. This spurred me on to investigate other flight sims, and consistently IL2/IL2FB came highly rated.

Because my wife recently bought a relatively spec'd machine I thought I'd give IL2FB a try. Awesome! Because this is the most complex flight sim I'd purchased and I am unfamiliar with such games, I am still attempting to take off successfully.

I think the difficulty settings are a great idea. Without those only hardcore flight sim heads would have anything positive to say about the game, since it would be (oh yes) "Too Hard". I Love the graphics, as not a die hard simhead, I admire (but don't demand) the accurate physics black out/red out/stall/oil leaks/etc.

My first impression is that I find the ability to practice very cumbersome. It would be awesome to have the option during the "Training" films to actually take over (stop/pause training) and attempt the manuevers you've just been taught.

Hopefully, I'll be able to take off soon and then I can talk about other aspects of the game.

Fender_74
02-15-2004, 02:54 AM
i usually play fps games like h&d2 and ghost recon,but i downloaded the demo last week and went straight out and bought the game. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
my first impressions were"why the hell didn't i get the game earlier".
the graphics are great,the maps are huge and the gameplay is fantastic.
the only problem i have with the game is that i'm a bit crap at the moment http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
i can take off,land(sometimes),fly about and shoot a few things but i just can't seem to find other planes very well.
i went online for the first time last night after a few beers(thats my excuse)and didn't really know what i was doing,but it was great fun watching all the other players fly http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
oh and hello everyone http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Sunday_Delight
02-15-2004, 09:56 PM
I don't quite remember my very first impressions when launching the game for the first time, but I do remember a few funny rookie reactions of mine, like reducing the game speed to score hits hehe. No way to do that at normal speed during my first flights, while unlimited amo was on! Or removing spins and stalls: couldn't finish a mission with them on http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ("you can't turn with these bloody birds!")

Take-offs were ok (just push the throttle and pull the stick right?) but landings were awful. I crashed dozens of time before I could figure out how to land safely. Still, it took me twice the length of the base to bring my plane to a stop... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif