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Mitlov47
03-19-2004, 05:41 PM
Which is it? The J8? I-153? I-16? B-239? P11? Choose any fighter, monoplane or biplane, and say *why* you like it.

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Mitlov47
03-19-2004, 05:41 PM
Which is it? The J8? I-153? I-16? B-239? P11? Choose any fighter, monoplane or biplane, and say *why* you like it.

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(aka Mitlov on HyperLobby and Ubi)

P-38J -- "A Sorta Fairytale"
P-63C -- "Jackie's Strength"

TgD Thunderbolt56
03-19-2004, 05:48 PM
Grumman F3F, because it was the precursor to the F4F which was the precursor to the F6F which was the precursor to the F8F...



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LEXX_Luthor
03-19-2004, 06:06 PM
I forgot about early Grummans. They were Tubbie planes too like I~16.


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Paasky
03-19-2004, 06:13 PM
The Gloster Gladiator (J8A) of course! It even turns better than the I-153 (from what I've experienced on the net) But in normal FB, it could've been P.11 or I-153. Although with stalls off, the I-16 is Very good.

SkyChimp
03-19-2004, 06:31 PM
P-36/Hawk 75.

Somewhat slow, but very tough and extremely manueverable.

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BlitzPig_DDT
03-19-2004, 06:34 PM
F9C Sparrowhawk. Because it flew from and returned to a floating aircraft carrier, a zeppelin. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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p1ngu666
03-19-2004, 06:37 PM
oo gladiator but i16 too
so many http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

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Adair_Smith
03-19-2004, 06:44 PM
The Japanese A5M1 & A5M4 Claude.
Because its the prettiest thing I ever saw and it has the manouverability to get you inside your opponents turn and keep you there.

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mike_espo
03-19-2004, 07:33 PM
Nice ship. But the Ki-27 was more maneuverable than the A5m. Thats my favorite. God, I wish we had these planes. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Steaky_361st
03-19-2004, 08:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SkyChimp:
P-36/Hawk 75.

Somewhat slow, but very tough and extremely manueverable.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Mitlov47
03-19-2004, 11:26 PM
I like the I-16 the best. Highly maneuverable, massive firepower for a 1930s fighter, very fast, and absolutely beautiful (in my opinion). I don't see why everyone complains about it stalling. It doesn't spin and stall nearly as badly as it did in the original IL-2, and unless you're ham-fisted with the joystick or you encounter online lag, it's not going to spin at all.

My favorite biplane is the I-153. I like it a lot more than the Gladiator. The retractiable landing gear makes it faster, and I just like how it looks. It also carries good armament (especially the cannon-equipped P version).

I've also found a way to dive without cutting out the engine in the I-16 and all other planes with gravity-fed engines. Bank right (or left) until you're completely over on your side (keep the stick slightly forward to keep your heading fixed). Then do full rudder right to bring your nose down. The engine won't cut off, because the g-forces are going horizontally instead o fupward. Once you're in the dive, straighten out. Very simple, very effective.

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P-63C -- "Jackie's Strength"

BM357_Troll
03-20-2004, 12:12 AM
I have been waiting patiently for the P-36, but alas, it is only an AI. Perhaps next go 'round we will be able to demonstrate the strength of this little turn fighter. In most arenas we will be clobbered, but in a tight affair where the enemy has no way to power out of the fight, we'll nab 'em. In the mean time, bigger brother P40 will do.

Udidtoo
03-20-2004, 12:22 AM
I'll put in a vote for the Brewster. I admire the way the Finns took it and made it into an over achiever.

Fun as heck in the Finnish campaign but now the Lagg3's just keep turn climbing away from me,

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LEXX_Luthor
03-20-2004, 12:50 AM
EMitton::

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I like the I-16 the best. Highly maneuverable, massive firepower for a 1930s fighter, very fast, and absolutely beautiful (in my opinion). I don't see why everyone complains about it stalling. It doesn't spin and stall nearly as badly as it did in the original IL-2, and unless you're ham-fisted with the joystick or you encounter online lag, it's not going to spin at all.

My favorite biplane is the I-153. I like it a lot more than the Gladiator. The retractiable landing gear makes it faster, and I just like how it looks. It also carries good armament (especially the cannon-equipped P version).

I've also found a way to dive without cutting out the engine in the I-16 and all other planes with gravity-fed engines. Bank right (or left) until you're completely over on your side (keep the stick slightly forward to keep your heading fixed). Then do full rudder right to bring your nose down. The engine won't cut off, because the g-forces are going horizontally instead o fupward. Once you're in the dive, straighten out. Very simple, very effective.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks, I will include that in a thread I may make about engine cut off to stick in my sig.

I wish the I~16 was more stally or something cos it was hard to fly--but not in the FB. MiG~3 too. That one killed alot of Newbie pilots in low airspeed conditions.

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Close this book forever and don't open anymore!" ~Oleg_Maddox http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Abbuzze
03-20-2004, 01:53 AM
A plane from the 30´s - hmm, the 109!! fought vs the Rata in Spain with succsess...

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LEXX_Luthor
03-20-2004, 02:40 AM
Somebody said early 109. I am Impressed http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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"You will still have FB , you will lose nothing" ~WUAF_Badsight
"I had actually pre ordered CFS3 and I couldnt wait..." ~Bearcat99
"Gladiator and Falco, elegant weapons of a more civilized age" ~ElAurens
:
"Damn.....Where you did read about Spitfire made from a wood?
Close this book forever and don't open anymore!" ~Oleg_Maddox http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Platypus_1.JaVA
03-20-2004, 02:46 AM
Hawker hind of course, can there be anything else?

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Brandstigter
03-20-2004, 04:35 AM
109D version with 2 bladed propeller - was way ahead of the pack for its time and spelled the end of successes for the Ratas.

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essemm
03-20-2004, 06:34 AM
I-16. It's short, it's fat, and it has character. Plus, my gunnery with it in IL2FB is better than my gunnery in any other plane. A famous Luftwaffe pilot when comparing the 109 with the 190, said the 109 was like a rapier, while the 190 is a sabre. If we stick with that analogy, then the I16 is a scalpel.

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Capt_Haddock
03-20-2004, 07:22 AM
Can I say "all"? I love the thirties http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

But one I've learn to love is the J8A. I didn't know that much about this extrange version when I started the Gladiator, but now thinking about it, it's the perfect combination: Excellent handling typical of British biplanes + Metric insturments.

As Gladiator pilot Dave Mackay days:

"Soon after take off, having relaxed a little, it quickliy becomes apparent that this is a very special aircraft. The controls are bautifully harmonised, light and powerful all axies. The four ailerons make roll almost effortless, and pitch and rudder control forces and responses are also well-matched. How can such an old aeroplane fly so well? How did they manage to get it so right? As if this wonderful handling wasn't enough, it is perfectly comlimented by the smoothness of the Mercury. New Gladiator pilots quickly realise how the aircraft was such a successful biplane fighter"

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M0NS
03-20-2004, 07:31 AM
Hmmm... - the new Italian ones because you can stall & flatspin them - something I've missed since original IL2. The J8 because it's so pretty. But sometimes there's just nothing better than chopping around in the '38 Hurri with a nice cup of tea. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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DONB3397
03-20-2004, 07:48 AM
The Gladiator J8 is my new favorite. Before that, the Grumman 22 was an all time favorite. Designed as a USN carrier a/c, it was arguably the predecessor for the great Cat series (Wildcat, Hellcat, Bearcat). But it's fame came from its role as a globe-trotting show plane sponsored by Gulf under the name "Gulfhawk." I hated the color, but loved the lines of this very aerobatic bi-plane.

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cruelsword
03-20-2004, 08:20 AM
Avia B-534 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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horseback
03-20-2004, 08:51 AM
Boeing's P-26 Peashooter, which is the epitome of 1930s style-and you've gotta love those tricked out schemes with chrome yellow wings on the gloss O.D. fuselage.

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p1ngu666
03-20-2004, 09:57 AM
that served in ww2 btw :O
was protecting america if your wondering http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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noshens
03-20-2004, 10:23 AM
I love p36 too! But i disagree with you on speed. It had perfectly good speed for a plane of that time. So it is tough, extremely manueverable, great armament, and good speed! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SkyChimp:
P-36/Hawk 75.

Somewhat slow, but very tough and extremely manueverable.

_Regards,_
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Snow_Wolf_
03-20-2004, 10:24 AM
Hawker Hurricane MK I 1938 (does it count as a 1930's fighter since it enter service in 1937?)

http://aa.1asphost.com/seafury/mononoke_p2.jpg

SkyChimp
03-20-2004, 10:30 AM
I think an Inter-War (1919-1938) flight sim would be incredible. Never been done before, either. There would be tons of weird and fantastic planes to include and all sorts of scenerios that could be played out.

BTW, I love those old Hawker bi-plane, too. Oh, and Curtiss fighters as well.

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SkyChimp
03-20-2004, 10:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by yay1:
I love p36 too! But i disagree with you on speed. It had perfectly good speed for a plane of that time. So it is tough, extremely manueverable, great armament, and good speed! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree, actually. Compared to its true contemporaries, speed was very comparable.

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p1ngu666
03-20-2004, 10:33 AM
all those beutiful french and italian planes
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mind there was some ugly brit planes :\
germans could have gliders http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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LEXX_Luthor
03-20-2004, 10:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I think an Inter-War (1919-1938) flight sim would be incredible. Never been done before, either. There would be tons of weird and fantastic planes to include and all sorts of scenerios that could be played out.

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S1.Tempest
03-20-2004, 10:58 AM
Fokker DXXI!!! Slow, not very manueverable, weak armament. But in here, finland where it was on service it wasn't so bad. Maybe because of the pilots.

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SkyChimp
03-20-2004, 12:47 PM
DXXI not manueverable? I always heard that it had fantastic manueverability.

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mercurey
03-20-2004, 07:13 PM
He 100,
it was the fastest aircraft at the time and superior to the 109.