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harryklein66
04-23-2004, 06:31 AM
MS 406 performence in the object viewer look's inaccurate it should be :
_top speed : 486 km/h at 5000 m (450 km/h=prototype top speedhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
_climb :13 m/s
_turn radius :300 m at 320 km/h under 4 to 5 G' ( not 265 m )
_time for 360‚? : 16s
_takeoff speed : 140 km/h after 250 m
_landing speed : 115 km/h with flaps 125 km/h without but tendency to stall.

MS 410 model 1940 ( not 1938)
_top speed : 509 km/h at 4000 m

I know that the MS 406/410 are not priority but i hope it could be rectify http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (...at least the texte in the object viewer )


merci.

(is the h75 come with the new patch or later?) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

harryklein66
04-23-2004, 06:31 AM
MS 406 performence in the object viewer look's inaccurate it should be :
_top speed : 486 km/h at 5000 m (450 km/h=prototype top speedhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
_climb :13 m/s
_turn radius :300 m at 320 km/h under 4 to 5 G' ( not 265 m )
_time for 360‚? : 16s
_takeoff speed : 140 km/h after 250 m
_landing speed : 115 km/h with flaps 125 km/h without but tendency to stall.

MS 410 model 1940 ( not 1938)
_top speed : 509 km/h at 4000 m

I know that the MS 406/410 are not priority but i hope it could be rectify http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (...at least the texte in the object viewer )


merci.

(is the h75 come with the new patch or later?) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

rbstr44
04-24-2004, 09:15 AM
You will have a tough time convincing anyone without posting your source documentation reference(s). Me, I will give you the benefit of a doubt. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Jippo01
04-24-2004, 09:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rbstr44:
You will have a tough time convincing anyone without posting your source documentation reference(s). Me, I will give you the benefit of a doubt. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, without sources such post is useless.

Adn to some part it is also incorrect. Radius for 360 degree turn is from Finnish test flights and is indeed 265m.

Also top speed figures are completely out of whack in the post. Also in the game, but what we have in game(Object viewer) is overly optimistic, and what the poster is suggesting is then again even over that.

Manual states top speed as 486km/h, but Finnish planes managed about 450km/h because it wasn't possible to fly at top speed radiators closed. According to Colonel Boillot (Air Enthusiast 9/1973) the planes stored outside couldn't achieve more than 420km/h even in France.

Source: Raunio Jukka, Lent√¬§j√¬§n N√¬§k√¬∂kulma II, 1993


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harryklein66
04-24-2004, 03:55 PM
ok sorry i forget the source : "le Morane-Saulnier MS 406"2002
300m (turn radius) is from french test
about top speed you re right for the 450km/h
some of finnish MS 406 where so tired that they couldn't achive more than 400km/h http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gifBUT
Pierre Boillot talk about 450km/h at 4000m WITH sorely afflicted Morane
and prop pitch broke ("Icare volumeXVI:La Chasse third part"1993)
the loss of perfomance is due to the quick engine wear, and the bad
resistance of the airframe to weather.
All the plane in game have "come out of factory" pref.
so the Morane top speed stay 486km/h
voila http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
thank's for comment