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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:12 AM
Yes, I've been one of the people whining about the lack of information **from UBI** on the patch.

Firstly, I'd like to apologize to the moderators who have to try to keep these boards civil. I don't mean to make your lives difficult, but also want to state my feelings about UBI's management of their products, patches and customers, and this is a place to do so.

I'd like to apologize for my weakness that makes me want to feel like I'm valued as a customer. I've gotten accustomed to Oleg's fantastic public relations, and the excellence in customer service that OLEG gives on his products, and was foolish to think that UBI had any hand in that since they don't.

I'm sorry I thought that UBI did something more than put their name on someone else's work and ship it out, giving some of the money back to the developer and keeping the rest. (I can be a fool sometimes).


I'd like to apologize for being stupid enough to think that the FB Community Manager would have the time to Manage the Community a little when clearly he hasn't seen it necessary to say ANYTHING to us, nevermind even venture into this forum. I'm sorry to have seen such an uproar over a lack of information, and STILL no sign of Cartrix... Very sorry indeed.

I'd also like to say how sorry I am that Oleg had to take time from his earned vacation to post something for us die-hard fans, something to manage our anxiety, after he realized his Producing company had their arses stuck in their chairs and couldn't come and say anything themselves.

I'd also like to apologize for laughing so hard at the thought of UBI "Testing" patches. If Oleg signs off on it it's good enough for me. I'm sorry I can't believe that UBI adds a shred of value to the process.

Man, there's so many things I'm sorry for. I'm sorry I spend so much time hanging out in this community, and sorry I tell everyone how great Forgotten Battles is, only to get totally ignored by UBI at a time where we just want the game to get patched to a reasonable level of functionality.

I'm sorry that I uninstalled IL2 from my machine before I realized that it ran better online than FB.

So Taz, thanks for the heads-up and suggestion of us apologizing. I was mulling it over already but your god-like suggestion really gave me the divine inspiration I needed to just do it. THanks!

Oh, and HAL, see Taz out there? Don't open the pod bay door, okay?



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Message Edited on 07/09/0306:14PM by Dexmeister

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:12 AM
Yes, I've been one of the people whining about the lack of information **from UBI** on the patch.

Firstly, I'd like to apologize to the moderators who have to try to keep these boards civil. I don't mean to make your lives difficult, but also want to state my feelings about UBI's management of their products, patches and customers, and this is a place to do so.

I'd like to apologize for my weakness that makes me want to feel like I'm valued as a customer. I've gotten accustomed to Oleg's fantastic public relations, and the excellence in customer service that OLEG gives on his products, and was foolish to think that UBI had any hand in that since they don't.

I'm sorry I thought that UBI did something more than put their name on someone else's work and ship it out, giving some of the money back to the developer and keeping the rest. (I can be a fool sometimes).


I'd like to apologize for being stupid enough to think that the FB Community Manager would have the time to Manage the Community a little when clearly he hasn't seen it necessary to say ANYTHING to us, nevermind even venture into this forum. I'm sorry to have seen such an uproar over a lack of information, and STILL no sign of Cartrix... Very sorry indeed.

I'd also like to say how sorry I am that Oleg had to take time from his earned vacation to post something for us die-hard fans, something to manage our anxiety, after he realized his Producing company had their arses stuck in their chairs and couldn't come and say anything themselves.

I'd also like to apologize for laughing so hard at the thought of UBI "Testing" patches. If Oleg signs off on it it's good enough for me. I'm sorry I can't believe that UBI adds a shred of value to the process.

Man, there's so many things I'm sorry for. I'm sorry I spend so much time hanging out in this community, and sorry I tell everyone how great Forgotten Battles is, only to get totally ignored by UBI at a time where we just want the game to get patched to a reasonable level of functionality.

I'm sorry that I uninstalled IL2 from my machine before I realized that it ran better online than FB.

So Taz, thanks for the heads-up and suggestion of us apologizing. I was mulling it over already but your god-like suggestion really gave me the divine inspiration I needed to just do it. THanks!

Oh, and HAL, see Taz out there? Don't open the pod bay door, okay?



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Message Edited on 07/09/0306:14PM by Dexmeister

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:15 AM
Dex, your sincerity is overwhelming...lol! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

BTW, I predict this thread (attacking UBI & Cartrix) will have a VERY long life, in comparison to my thread, which was locked for asking people to be civil...

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Cheers,

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:16 AM
Well said, Dex.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:17 AM
Dex... you are quite clever... great post!

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:23 AM
You make me cry for regret.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:30 AM
Holy downloads!

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:38 AM
Amen Brother Dex.
You testify the truth.

Look, I think FB is a stellar product.

BUT

Judging by UBI's lack of communications basics, general customer support and weak community manager, they do not give a rat's *** about us.

Oleg is awesome but I pray he takes his brilliant software elsewhere before UBI completely blows the niche market share that he has.

Oh yeah, Taz, if you want an apology, please point out the information in my post that is incorrect.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:41 AM
Dex,

Wait a minute! Wern't you the one who started the thread saying that UBI was testing the patch?

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:48 AM
BuzzU wrote:
- Dex,
-
- Wait a minute! Wern't you the one who started the
- thread saying that UBI was testing the patch?


No, I started a thread asking if anyone else saw humour in UBI "testing" the patch. Oleg tests it, then passes it off to UBI, then they test it /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif That's funny, isn't it?



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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:53 AM
I think everybody picked up on that as meaning UBI had the patch. I know I did.

Your to blame you knucklehead../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:56 AM
Oleg already stated that the patch had been given to UBI and that he was going on vacation. Today he changed that all around when he said that it was *now* finished...

Either way, it ends up in UBI's hands to do some "Quality Control", "Q&A", "Testing", or at worst a few days while they try to figure out how to install it /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:59 AM
Go back and read Oleg's post. I think guys took what he said the wrong way. I thought he meant the patch would be done in 2 1/2 weeks. I kept saying it while everybodywas whining, but I was out numbered, and gave up.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 03:03 AM
BuzzU wrote:
I kept saying it while
- everybodywas whining, but I was out numbered, and
- gave up.

Attaboy!!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 03:09 AM
It's like a big soap opera huh? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 03:35 AM
Tall_Canuck wrote:
- Amen Brother Dex.
- You testify the truth.
-
- Look, I think FB is a stellar product.
-
- BUT
-
- Judging by UBI's lack of communications basics,
- general customer support and weak community manager,
- they do not give a rat's *** about us.
-
- Oleg is awesome but I pray he takes his brilliant
- software elsewhere before UBI completely blows the
- niche market share that he has.
-
- Oh yeah, Taz, if you want an apology, please point
- out the information in my post that is incorrect.


Wow...now when you get TC all riled up, you know something is wrong.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 03:40 AM
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Message Edited on 07/10/0302:44AM by Heuristic_ALgor

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 03:47 AM
Well done Dex.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 03:52 AM
Taz, you are WAY over your daily allotment of 30 min forum time today! i guess a crisis calls for drastic changes of habit, doesn't it?

Dex, i do think UBI's patch testing could add value. they are equipped to test games and patches on a way greater variety of grapic card / soundboard / OS / mobo combinations than Oleg ever could.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 03:55 AM
Oh brother ... spare me ... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Are you running for office or something ???? LMAO /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 04:08 AM
I would like an apology from ubi


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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 04:16 AM
Dear Spitter,

I apologize.

Your truly,

UBI

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 04:32 AM
Would this be a good time for me to apologize for my apology? Naw, that would probably just result in me apologizing for apologizing, then revoking one of them and everyone here would get confused (especially Taz /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif ) and then HAL would lock us all out and instead of begging for the patch we'd be begging HAL, in unison "Open the pod bay door" while HAL was singing "Daisy... Daisy....." /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 04:46 AM
I'm confused again../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 04:52 AM
BuzzU wrote:
- I'm confused again

"Maybe it's because you're not wearing enough flair"

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Buzz:
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That's too bad cause "we're gonna need you to go ahead and come in on Saturday"..... "Yeahhhh".....

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 04:55 AM
id like Dex to apologize for apologizing.....QUACK ! p.s. that movie OFFICE SPACE was a RIOT !!!!

Right about now your thinking to yourself IS he an Ace or isnt he an Ace? well you just gotta ask yourself one question...do ya feel lucky? ...well do ya... PUNK ??? www.fighterjocks.net (http://www.fighterjocks.net) home of the Real Sim Aces

Message Edited on 07/10/0303:56AM by RedDeth

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 04:57 AM
Dex, your words are wise and well said.

UBI has no appreciation for any thing except cash.

And they already have mine


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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:00 PM
bump. Don't want UBI to miss this and you never know what week they may come into the forum...



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Zayets
07-10-2003, 01:07 PM
A well deserved bump

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:10 PM
I think an apology for all them Age of Mythology pics or whatever would be in place, Dex. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif
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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:10 PM
Actually my thoughts are expressed very good in the inintial post.

Nice one.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:10 PM
And now for something completely different:

http://www.hampsterdance.com/hampsterdanceredux.html

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Message Edited on 07/10/0308:10AM by roybaty

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:13 PM
Vengeanze wrote:
- I think an apology for all them Age of Mythology
- pics or whatever would be in place, Dex.

You're right Ven, here goes:


"And I'd like to apologize to forum members, and especially Ven, for all the Rise of Nations screenshots I've posted in the past. Obviously for such a great game I should have found some larger pictures than the ones I posted"

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Zayets
07-10-2003, 01:22 PM
BTW , cartrix or somebody having access to his aaccount posted yesterday in Lomac general forum.So , da man is here!
Zayets out

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:22 PM
Ven is pleased.
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Btw look what I found while surfing for a cool pleased-pic:
http://www.big-baby.org/

Hilarious.

Hawgdog
07-10-2003, 01:25 PM
Dexmeister wrote:
-No, I started a thread asking if anyone else saw
- humour in UBI "testing" the patch. Oleg tests it,
- then passes it off to UBI, then they test it


Its tested in the market place. Who will spend the most for the least quickest and complain the minimal to maximize the potential for selling the patch when they get around to it.

I do see more and more servers are using the IL2 maps online for FB, funny.

Anyone see what the Russians get when they buy FB? you'd crap.
t-shirts, posters etc- UBI dont sell in Olegs country, different distributor I understand.
Is UBI french? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:27 PM
Check this out:

http://www.big-baby.org/pictures/big_baby/bottle.ram

Incredible.

Hawgdog
07-10-2003, 01:30 PM
Ven, whats up with the interest men in diapers? I went to the website in your post earlier.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:31 PM
Just sharing. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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07-10-2003, 01:34 PM
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Zayets
07-10-2003, 01:38 PM
As far as I know UBI belongs to Vivendi Universal , which is French , or at least managed by that guy who almost bankrupt her. And you don't wanna know what he has as salary , you don't wanna know! My jaw wrecked the floor when I saw what Russian customers gets when they buy IL2. I was fortunate enough that the original IL2 came in a real box. For FB we have the crappy DVD box. So , yes , in terms of marketing UBI sucks. Was lately for a conference held by a big name and I was surprised by the lack of geek stuffs , geek stores , all those little things we were used to. Talking with somebody in there I found that marketing does not worth that much anymore. The companies apparently are putting they efforts in other areas than marketing. Maybe this is the case with UBI as well. who knows?
Zayets out

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Hunter82
07-10-2003, 01:51 PM
Ven is a very 'giving' person /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 01:53 PM
Hunter82 wrote:
- Ven is a very 'giving' person


LMAO. But only if there's a 'receiver'. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Vengeanze wrote:
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- Hunter82 wrote:
-- Ven is a very 'giving' person
-
-
- LMAO. But only if there's a 'receiver'. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
-
-



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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 02:02 PM
Vengeanze wrote:
-
- Hunter82 wrote:
-- Ven is a very 'giving' person
-
-
- LMAO. But only if there's a 'receiver'.



On a totally unrelated note, where's Taz today anyways? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



Oh, that's right, HAL locked him outside of the pod...

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07-10-2003, 02:06 PM
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Dexmeister wrote:
-
- Vengeanze wrote:
--
-- Hunter82 wrote:
--- Ven is a very 'giving' person
--
--
-- LMAO. But only if there's a 'receiver'.
-
-
-
- On a totally unrelated note, where's Taz today
- anyways? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
-
-
-
- Oh, that's right, HAL locked him outside of the
- pod...


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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 03:01 PM
What is this "Mod's Gone Wild"

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 03:11 PM
yeah for sure Ubi could do better.
They could also have not taken the risk to take a product and distribute it to a niche market. Then who would have distributed it? Microsoft?

So yes they could have done better and should have but give them some credit for having at least made some effort.
Although who could possibly turn down such an amazing product i do not know.

Its a Niche market guys, There are variables like return on investment etc, and i'm sure Oleg choose his distributor to make sure he got the best out of it.

Btw Ubi doesn't belong to Vivendi- u can all buy shares if u like and become owners! And then do some serious talking with the marketing director and the customer support director:-)

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 05:37 PM
Apologizing on this forum is a definite sign of weakness.

LOL.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 05:55 PM
Sorry

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 06:09 PM
OberstOberst wrote:
- Apologizing on this forum is a definite sign of
- weakness.


USAFHelos wrote:
- Sorry



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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 06:39 PM
Good post. succinvtly put. I must admit until I got a few lines in, I almost thought you had caved. Thank goodness it was only a surprise tactic, though a good one.


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ZG77_Nagual
07-10-2003, 06:52 PM
Bah..it's a passive-aggressive apology. La te da.
only legitimate issue is the T-shirt - I definitely want one of those cool il2 t-shirts in Russian.

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 03:26 PM
Since OLEG (not UBI) finally came out and mentioned that UBI *MAY* soon reappear and tell us something about the patch, I figured this was fitting.



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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 04:05 PM
I hear Cartrix is holidaying in Camp Delta. It may be some time before he returns /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 05:10 PM
Interesting DEX. A little story for you....

My friend Frank Hunter used to program games for Interactive Magic, SSI and others. After getting tired of the continual demands, unnegotiated changes to the games, and penalties assessed against his future royalty payment when a deadline wasnt met concerning the production of his games, he grew tired of it and left these companies. Not to mention that he got really annoyed after a while of programming his guts out only to see a substantial (and I mean substantial) amount of money from the sale of his games go to them and other distibutors like Chips and Bits ect ect.

I wonder how long it will be before Oleg will manufacture and distribute the game all on his own to retain the profits from him and his staffs hard work and not have to split his cut of the cash..If that were the case, I wonder how many here would log into his website to purchase a copy directly from him? I would, but how many kids without a credit card would drop out of sight in this game? All of them I hope..hehehe

Which brings me to some of Dex's points. I dont think that any single person here can possibly understand the pressures put on someone like Oleg by the people above him for the patch, expansion features etc etc. It may well infact be done, but he may for a hundred different reasons be withheld for some sort reasons that factor into legalities of law and cash disputes.

I play the game, I enjoy the game. Other than the kids and miscreants that whine in servers, dont listen to hosts, team kill etc etc..Its THE BEST FLIGHT SIM OUT THERE...nature of the beast isnt it?

Lets NOT forget...Oleg could have stopped at IL-2...All the patch whining, I want this plane and that plane complaining (Yes Id like more too) wouldnt matter one bit...Would it?

He doesn't have to respond to the threads, but he does.

He doesn't have to be cowed into making more aircraft, but he is..

Lets be thankful that there is a guy out there Like Oleg, that at least acknowledges the buyers of his product with updates and expansions and the fact that you can even talk to the guy at times. Try that at Microsoft or any other big wig company...

Im not pedestalling him, some of your points you make have a thin vail of truth, but not many...There are things that should be changed or added, but may or may not be done.
My point is he could have taken the money from IL-2 and run. But he hasn't... If you can do better please give it a go....Id love to see your results.

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 05:20 PM
and to get it to the top of the thread again...lol

XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 05:52 PM
Bump. No elaboration needed, just plain, simple, BUMP!!!!

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Charlie_52ndVFW
07-18-2003, 08:54 PM
So, since it seems to be on topic here...

What is holding up the patch? Modeling more airplanes?

I figured as soon as FB was released and the horrible net code and errors were discovered, that they would work hard on getting us a code patch. THEN worry about making an airplane addon patch.

Why hold up the very thing we need to make the game more enjoyable just so they can finish a cockpit or two?

Fix the code first - Add the planes later.

Oh yeah...BUMP!

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 10:07 PM
Good point Charlie if that is a factor in its delays.

I'm just amazed that so many people think they deserve so much out of a product. Or is it merely the fact that these same people feel they were misled by UBI's intent of support? I thought we were all jaded enough to capitalism to know that, well !@#$ happens and usually the consumer pays the difference.

When I bought my copy I did'nt see the small print that said "This game will be improved on X date for free", maybe I missed it.

XyZspineZyX
07-19-2003, 02:49 AM
I sincerely hope that your apolgy gets accepted so we can all breath a sigh of relief.

S!

XyZspineZyX
07-19-2003, 07:21 AM
Dexmeister wrote:
- Yes, I've been one of the people whining about the
- lack of information from UBI on the patch.

Could this be the understatement of the year?

XyZspineZyX
07-19-2003, 09:38 PM
Dexmeister wrote:

- Firstly, I'd like to apologize to the moderators who
- have to try to keep these boards civil.

This would be a good idea. Your posts have really trashed this forum.


- I'd like to apologize for my weakness that makes me
- want to feel like I'm valued as a customer.

This isn't a weakness, everybody feels like this! The customer is always #1, right? (not the company)


- I'm sorry I thought that UBI did something more than
- put their name on someone else's work and ship it
- out, giving some of the money back to the developer
- and keeping the rest. (I can be a fool sometimes).

You should be very ashamed for thinking this. Everyone has a right to be naive' though. (once)



- I'd like to apologize for being stupid enough to
- think that the FB Community Manager would have the
- time to Manage the Community a little when clearly
- he hasn't seen it necessary to say ANYTHING to us,
- nevermind even venture into this forum. I'm sorry to
- have seen such an uproar over a lack of information,
- and STILL no sign of Cartrix... Very sorry indeed.

Hmmm this thread is sounding less and less like an apology, and more and more like a rant!



- I'd also like to say how sorry I am that Oleg had to
- take time from his earned vacation to post something
- for us die-hard fans, something to manage our
- anxiety, after he realized his Producing company had
- their arses stuck in their chairs and couldn't come
- and say anything themselves.

You seem to have a personal attachment to Oleg, and what he does in his spare time. Perhaps you would be more sorry if he had to take time out from his precious day to answer your posts?



- I'd also like to apologize for laughing so hard at
- the thought of UBI "Testing" patches.

Never apologize for laughter! (unless you are in court)


- Man, there's so many things I'm sorry for. I'm sorry
- I spend so much time hanging out in this community,
- and sorry I tell everyone how great Forgotten
- Battles is, only to get totally ignored by UBI at a
- time where we just want the game to get patched to a
- reasonable level of functionality.


It's ok if you are sorry. It's just that when you continue to the the things you are sorry for, thats when there is a problem.


- I'm sorry that I uninstalled IL2 from my machine
- before I realized that it ran better online than FB.

Thanks for letting us know that. I was thinking about uninstalling Il2 but now that I know you were sorry you did it, I will surely think twice!


- So Taz, thanks for the heads-up and suggestion of us
- apologizing. I was mulling it over already but your
- god-like suggestion really gave me the divine
- inspiration I needed to just do it. THanks!
-
- Oh, and HAL, see Taz out there? Don't open the pod
- bay door, okay?
-
- Tongue-tied & twisted,
- just an earthbound misfit,
- I.


Well said Dexmeister! (well, at least the last part)

XyZspineZyX
07-19-2003, 11:47 PM
You gotta love how these guys use aliases to create users that agree with themselves...lol!

BTW...I think the whole apology thing was a bad idea now! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Cheers,

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Message Edited on 07/19/0306:47PM by TaZ_Attack

XyZspineZyX
07-20-2003, 05:48 AM
Dexmeister wrote:
- "And I'd like to apologize to forum members, and
- especially Ven, for all the Rise of Nations
- screenshots I've posted in the past. Obviously for
- such a great game I should have found some larger
- pictures than the ones I posted"
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No apology needed. That is such a great game, one can not help but to try to share the news about how good it is.

XyZspineZyX
07-20-2003, 06:53 PM
Zayets wrote:
- BTW , cartrix or somebody having access to his
- aaccount posted yesterday in Lomac general forum.So
- , da man is here!
- Zayets out

Ahh Cartrix is here. good to know the guy is up and about. Hopefully he will read this apology from Dexmeister and respond.

The_Blue_Devil
07-20-2003, 07:10 PM
harryw wrote:
- Dex, i do think UBI's patch testing could add value.
- they are equipped to test games and patches on a way
- greater variety of grapic card / soundboard / OS /
- mobo combinations than Oleg ever could.
-
Oh yea I forgot..he just MADE the Game....I'm sure he hasn't the ability to test it proper like... Oleg doesn't make patches/games/etc like a Troll in a basement somewhere..he has a Company. Ubi is the reason FB is in the state that it is now..what with them wanting it out Now Now Now and not waiting until it was Done Proper like.


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XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 02:52 AM
Hawgdog wrote:
-
- Dexmeister wrote:
--No, I started a thread asking if anyone else saw
-- humour in UBI "testing" the patch. Oleg tests it,
-- then passes it off to UBI, then they test it
-
-
- Its tested in the market place. Who will spend the
- most for the least quickest and complain the minimal
- to maximize the potential for selling the patch when
- they get around to it.
-
- I do see more and more servers are using the IL2
- maps online for FB, funny.
-
- Anyone see what the Russians get when they buy FB?
- you'd crap.
- t-shirts, posters etc- UBI dont sell in Olegs
- country, different distributor I understand.
- Is UBI french?

UBI is a Frech Company. The distrubuter in Russia is an independent conglomerate, thats why they can afford to send tshirts, posters, etc.

XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 03:35 AM
TaZ_Attack wrote:
- Dex, your sincerity is overwhelming...lol! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
-
- BTW, I predict this thread (attacking UBI & Cartrix)
- will have a VERY long life, in comparison to my
- thread, which was locked for asking people to be
- civil...
-
- /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
-
- Cheers,
-
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Cartrix doesn't post unless he absolutely has too. Unless he is using a different name, it's just a job and after awhile, you get sick of it.


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XyZspineZyX
07-21-2003, 07:18 AM
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