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owlwatcher
07-04-2004, 09:51 PM
They are big. Had never seen these before.
Worth a look.
http://www.navsource.org/Naval/ph1.htm

owlwatcher
07-04-2004, 09:51 PM
They are big. Had never seen these before.
Worth a look.
http://www.navsource.org/Naval/ph1.htm

TILLIO
07-06-2004, 05:01 AM
Thank you, nices photos http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

jensenpark
07-06-2004, 05:58 AM
yup, very cool.

What is the retangular area in the middle of the island...almost black...looks like a huge paved lot.

Too bad for the Japanese they weren't two months earlier - could have taken out the Enterprise.

There is a interesting 'what if' novella/story that was just published in England to coincide with the 60th anniversary of the D-Day landings. Based on 'what if' the Allies had been beaten back and had to withdraw.
Would be an interesting to see something similiar for a 'what if' the carriers were in port - or a 'what if' the carriers had caught the strike force beforehand.

http://www.corsair-web.com/thistler/rtfoxint.jpg
Buzz Beurling flying his last sortie over Malta, Oct.24, 1942

Zyzbot
07-06-2004, 07:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jensenpark:
yup, very cool.

What is the retangular area in the middle of the island...almost black...looks like a huge paved lot.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

looks like the airfield to me. There appear to be airplanes parked on the concrete ramp area next to it.

gombal40
07-06-2004, 08:01 AM
it is
U can read taxi on one of the lanes

BigKahuna_GS
07-06-2004, 11:18 AM
S!

Ford Island Naval Air Station, in the middle of Pearl Harbor, was headquarters of Patrol Wing Two, and an important target for the Japanese first wave raiders. Reportedly, the initial bomb of the whole attack burst there, prompting the message that electrified the World: "Air Raid, Pearl Harbor--this is no drill.". Several PBY patrol seaplanes and other aircraft were destroyed on Ford Island, and one big hangar was gutted. In all, 33 planes were put out of commission there.

U.S. Navy and Marine Corps air stations on Pearl Harbor's Ford Island, at Ewa to the west of Pearl and at Kanoehe Bay near Bellows Field, also received concentrated attention from the raiders. Ewa's aircraft complement, mainly carrier-type bombers and fighters, was reduced from nearly fifty operational planes to less than twenty. Ford Island and Kanoehe, home to several squadrons of long-range PBY patrol seaplanes, were massively attacked, with Ford Island losing about half its planes and Kaneohe all but a few.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/events/wwii-pac/pearlhbr/ph-frd.htm

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/events/wwii-pac/pearlhbr/ph-air.htm


As to there being Japanese spies at Pearl Harbor, there was
at least one rather notorious spy attached to the Japanese Consulate, Takeo Yoshikawa, this of course came to light after the fact.


From a US Marine stationed on EWA Field:

US Marine field at Ewa as an aerographer. Ewa was next to Barbers Point, a naval air station. I promised to take a Sgt's. duty on Sunday, Dec. 7th. at our aerology( meteorology) tent. About 10 minutes to 8:00 a.m., I took the
wet and dry bulb for the temperature and dew point, barograph,
hydrograph reading, checked the wind sock and clouds, then went in the
tent and entered the log book. I had just signed the log when people
outside yelled to come out because there were planes hedge-hopping along
the coast. Just then a two-seater torpedo plane banked around the tower
and the rear gunner fired at us. The red circle on the wings told me
all I needed to know. The planes that dropped torpedoes and bombs in
the harbor strafed our base burning up all of our planes.
It was devastating to see all of our planes burning up, and the marines were scurrying to get their rifles and amo to fire back at the planes. We
were also told that there was a possibility of Japanese troops landing
on our beach but that didn't happen. We were not totally informed about
the destruction at the harbor for a couple of days. There were two
attacks from these planes and we were sending hot rifle fire at them.
We were kept busy night and day guarding the beach for the next couple
of days.

My parents are Pearl Harbor survivors. My dad was a USMC Dauntless SDB pilot at the time stationed at EWA Field during the japanese attack. He saw Battleship row go up and had friends on the Arizona. Japanese planes flew "low enough to throw a rock at" and straffed/bombed them.


___________

CCJ: What do you define as the most important things a fighter pilot must know to be successful, relating to air combat maneuvering?

Robert S. Johnson :
It's pretty simple, really. Know the absolute limits of your plane's capabilities.
Know its strengths and weaknesses. Know the strengths and weaknesses of you enemy's fighters. Never fight the way your enemy fights best. Always fight the way you fight best. Never be predictable.

In "Fighter Aces," aviation historians Raymond Tolliver
and Trevor Constable compared Johnson's record with that of two German aces.
Werner Molders was the first ace to score 100 aerial victories and Erich Hartmann is the top scoring ace of all time with 352.

The authors noted that
Johnson "emerges impressively from this comparison." He downed 28 planes in 91 sorties, while Molders took 142 sorties to do the same, and Hartmann, 194.
________



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"Angels of Okinawa"

CowboyTodd41
07-06-2004, 02:15 PM
Were'nt those pics taken by an RF-8 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

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Baco-ECV56
07-06-2004, 03:17 PM
Grate Pics guys.
Now what impresses me the most is the Smoke...

Wish we could have That in PF... but I know: FPS killers....

grist
07-07-2004, 08:21 AM
The Way It Was: Pearl Harbor, the Original Photographs (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0028811208/qid=1089209701/sr=1-18/ref=sr_1_18/002-5869734-3856869?v=glance&s=books)

This picture book has great pictures of Pearl Harbor before during and after the battle. It also has pictures of many of the players involved in the battle.

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