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Green-Parrot
05-14-2004, 06:02 PM
Does anyone have any ideas about the "True Vector Engine" which has been freezing FB?

I have Zone Alarm installed (free edition) and while serving or joining a server, the game comes to a hault to the extent I have to do a re-start http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif(

Any suggestions would be appreciated...

Green-Parrot
05-14-2004, 06:02 PM
Does anyone have any ideas about the "True Vector Engine" which has been freezing FB?

I have Zone Alarm installed (free edition) and while serving or joining a server, the game comes to a hault to the extent I have to do a re-start http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif(

Any suggestions would be appreciated...

Persus
05-14-2004, 06:07 PM
I have never had any probs with zonealarm.
Only thing I did was that I allowed it to connect to the internet and act as a server = full access to the outside world.

rpkiller
05-14-2004, 06:11 PM
It may be worth checking the allowances for Zone Alarm to enable fb and Hyperlobby to access the server. From my experience with zone alarm, it keeps programs in a sort of limbo until they have been confirmed or denied network access.
If this doesn't work, a less invasive firewall might be worth considering.

regards

rp

Call_me_Kanno
05-14-2004, 06:22 PM
I had this same True Vector Engine problem with zone alarm and just had to get rid of it. May be difference in PC's. I couldn't run the LOMAC flight sim without my PC randomly rebooting. I change to another firewall and that cure the problem. ZA really started to cause even worse problems after I installed their last update for it.

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NorrisMcWhirter
05-15-2004, 03:06 AM
Hi,

Sorry to hijack the thread a little but:

I'd suggest that you use a firewall with a little more control than zonealarm offers for FB as I always found it to be a little restrictive.

IMO, ZA is something that you use when you don't know anything about firewalls and don't wish to. As soon as you get the general idea of ports, protocols and what needs to be blocked and what doesn't, then there is a natural progression to something else.

I've some idea of networking and tried out quite a few firewalls including:

Conseal firewall : "interesting" user interface and configuration but generally OK.

AtGuard firewall : pretty robust and easy to use; later became Norton firewall, I think.

Outpost: Powerful, fairly easy to use but did things that I didn't expect so I never gained any trust in it and, if you don't trust your firewall, best to use something else.

Kerio 2.14 : Not the best interface but easy to configure and not so resource hungry. Has some flaws.

Kerio 4.0 : Interface is a pain in the **** but it is flexible and easy to set up. Also monitors application launches which may prevent applications becoming remote controlled so as to launch other applications for the purpose of causing system damage.

Cheers,
Norris

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Heavy_Weather
05-15-2004, 11:56 AM
yeah be sure to check the settings, alot of people just click "NO" to the Zone alarm pop-ups, turning off critical features of their computer or websites.

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lil_labbit
05-15-2004, 12:16 PM
ZoneAlarm don't impress me much - it's full of holes...

Try NetPeeker : http://www.pcworlddownload.com/internet/security/NetPeeker.htm
This lets you see (realy it lists all) programs accessing the net, has a build-in pop-up and spyware stopper, can limit a program's access bandwidth to the net and much more...
Beside that I allways have Norton Personal Firewall and Anti-Virus , and BlackIce firewalls running http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I also scan regularly with Ad-Aware, you should do at least this - because I realy think you have spyware on your system - and THAT is what makes it slow probably...

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Oak_Groove
05-15-2004, 12:59 PM
If you run WinXP, you don´t need an additional personal/desktop "firewall". A firewall is not a piece of software you simply install, it´s a security concept. Firewalls stops malicious content before it reaches the platform you are working with, a desktop "firewall" does not. All you do by installing Software like Zonealarm &co on your home pc is to increase the complexity of your system, and thus increase the probability of failure, which can compromise both, system stability and security. Another thing to consider is that most PF's are closed source programms, the data available to a commerical/free PF is, from a marketing perspective, surely not uninteresting.

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Capt.LoneRanger
05-15-2004, 01:09 PM
There are many discussions of how bad ZoneAlarm is and how much better this or that firewall is.

It's true that Outpost has some more features than ZoneAlarm and blocks a few more trials to access the internet from inside, than ZoneAlarm, but if anybody thinks ANY software-firewall renders you PC safe, be warned: It is simply impossible to protect a computer that is hardwired to the internet with ANY software. You can block access to your computer, try to hide your IP and block some programs from accessing the internet, but you're never safe.

The only way to be really safe, you gotta link a router between your computer and the internet or a hardware-firewall.

So, all discussions about which firewall is safe and which one isn't is pure fanboy-ism, nothing more.

To the... "bug":

If you use ZoneAlarm and the game freezes:
1. hit TAB once
2. hit SPACE once
3. hit TAB twice
4. hit SPACE once

What it does? When the game...freezes..., it stops, because ZA is opeing a window in the background, though you might not be able to see it. With the above-key-code, you make up a rule, that the game is allowed to receive data from the internet. It probably will hang again and you have to repeat the above sequence. By that you allow the game to send data to the internet, too. Of course you gotta do that for all games you wanna play on the internet.

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Capt.LoneRanger
05-15-2004, 01:12 PM
PS: I absolute don't recommend the XP-firewall. It's got more holes than a piece of swiss cheese and it blocks all programs except XP itself, sending and receiving information the way it wants . If you have RemoteAccess enabled, too, hackers (and M$) can access anything they want and even take complete controll of your computer.

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NorrisMcWhirter
05-15-2004, 01:39 PM
Hi,

The previous poster is correct - firewalls can lead to a false sense of security.

The safest way to stop information being obtained from your PC is to never connect to the internet.

The second safest way has already been mentioned - a "hardware" firewall.

Even then, if it isn't configured correctly, you can still be had.

The XP firewall (in built) is pants. I wouldn't have it on my mind, never mind enabling it.

I suggest running FB from an XP 'non admin' account that you don't use for anything else (i.e. you don't keep any information on it). At least this way, there is less chance of nobbling your machine by file replacement etc.

Cheers,
Norris

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Capt.LoneRanger
05-15-2004, 02:45 PM
Agreed, Norris!

There are different measures to add to the safety of your machine, besides the firewall stuff discussed:

1. Don't use Outlook or OutlookExpress - there are free and very valid alternatives.
2. Don't use M$ InternetExplorer - use Opera, Mozilla or the smaller version FireFox - they're for free and protect you from pop-ups and to some degree from dialers.
3. frequently use Spybot S&D or Adaware to clean your computer, not only Anti-Virus-Tools.
4. Disable ActiveX-elements on your I-Browser
5. As said by Norris, don't log in as admin.

Well, that's the most usefull option to be somewhat... safe http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif - http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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SwingerSpecial
05-15-2004, 08:15 PM
Just as a word of warning... If you DO have Zone Alarm on your computer, and decide to uninstall it... before doing anything, go to their website and print out the removal instructions. Quite often I've had to rip that thing out manually because of the **** that it leaves behind (that may cause you to be completely unable to connect to the internet).

And just like LoneRanger & Norris said; The three steps you can do to secure your system are

1) Get an Antivirus program and keep it up to date. Just a plain, normal antivirus, no need to create a complex solution for a simple problem. "Security suite" packages tend to be troublesome (Norton Internet Security - more effective than most viruses in destroying your system), and uninstalling them is about as smooth as removing bubble gum from your hair.

2) Stop using Internet Explorer. Don't bother putting perfume on a pig, it's still a pig. Just use Netscape/Mozilla, Opera, ANYTHING else.

3) If you're running Win2000 or WinXP, get a hardware firewall. You can get a good one for less than 60$ (USD). This way you don't have to take the performance hit of running yet another application on your system, and viruses etc. cannot disable it.

Wings_of_Fire
05-15-2004, 10:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oak_Groove:
If you run WinXP, you don´t need an additional personal/desktop "firewall". A firewall is not a piece of software you simply install, it´s a security concept. Firewalls stops malicious content before it reaches the platform you are working with, a desktop "firewall" does not. All you do by installing Software like Zonealarm &co on your home pc is to increase the complexity of your system, and thus increase the probability of failure, which can compromise both, system stability and security. Another thing to consider is that most PF's are closed source programms, the data available to a commerical/free PF is, from a marketing perspective, surely not uninteresting.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I find that rather irresponsible, suggesting theat if you run WinXP you don't need a Firewall http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif XP is probably the easiest to gain access to, and has more security exploits and worm envelopes than all of the other version of Windows put together.
I have noted that not one person has mentioned the ONLY software Firewall that is as good as a hardware firewall, it is also a heck of a lot easier to use, does not leech into the Kernel, and has the FULL backing of GRC.com (ShieldsUp), in fact its the only Firewall that has passed the ALL the tests available there.

The Firewall's name?...........Sygate Personal Firewall.

Its completely free for home use, and is completely user friendly.

Monty_Thrud
05-16-2004, 05:02 AM
I must admit i'm starting to suspect Zonealarm might be causing a problem since the last update...i have been getting a timeout on Warclouds (at the most inconvenient time possible)...game crashing to desktop...connection troubles in Battlefields 1942...Internet Explorer unable to find server 404's...startup struggling to load Zonealarm, maybe i should go back to their previous version...i've not really had many problems before with Zonealarm

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blairgowrie
05-16-2004, 05:47 AM
Thanks Wings_of_Fire. I have just downloaded and installed Sygate. What a user friendly programe! The scan features are a treat and I found out all kinds of info I didn't know about.

No more Zone Alarm for me. Thanks again.

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Wings_of_Fire
05-16-2004, 08:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blairgowrie:
Thanks Wings_of_Fire. I have just downloaded and installed Sygate. What a user friendly programe! The scan features are a treat and I found out all kinds of info I didn't know about.

No more Zone Alarm for me. Thanks again.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
My pleasure, I am glad to be of help to someone http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

lil_labbit
05-16-2004, 08:52 AM
If you want to remove or disable the M$ spy-****, try this little gem :

http://www.xp-antispy.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

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