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KonstantinL100
08-19-2004, 11:27 AM
Does anyone have any information on rear gunner aces?

I recently saw a picture of an Il-2 crew that had nailed two Bf-109's and proudly sported the kill's on the side of their machine.

It got me wondered if anyone, Soviet, German, or Western Allies had made ace while serving as a rear gunner?

Anyone?

KonstantinL100
08-19-2004, 11:27 AM
Does anyone have any information on rear gunner aces?

I recently saw a picture of an Il-2 crew that had nailed two Bf-109's and proudly sported the kill's on the side of their machine.

It got me wondered if anyone, Soviet, German, or Western Allies had made ace while serving as a rear gunner?

Anyone?

BSS_Goat
08-19-2004, 11:29 AM
seems like all of the ones I fly against are aces.

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PBNA-Boosher
08-19-2004, 11:30 AM
There's a good book out about bomber gunner aces of WW2. I'll try to find the title for you. There were a few famous movie stars in the USAAC during the war who flew as gunners. I know that. I forget the guy's name though...

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Tobus75
08-20-2004, 05:30 AM
Must be Ronald Reagan then, he forgot his name too... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Plelv44_Mangrov
08-20-2004, 05:52 AM
Finnish Blenheim backgunner Hammaren shot down 05.03.1939 - 11.3.1940 4 planes. Those planes were 2xI-153 and 2xI-16. Great
achievement with 7,7mm Lewis/Vickers/Browning machinegun!

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trumper
08-20-2004, 05:55 AM
http://www.skyscapes.net/lancasterdusk.html

LIVERSAGE Warrant Officer Ron, MBE, RAF Bomber Command. Flew Lancasters with 625 Squadron as an air gunner, completing a full tour of 32 operational missions.
When i was in the air cadets this chap was my warrant officer,i remember him saying he had a couple of kills,i wish i could remember more,possibly Me 110's.

Obi_Kwiet
08-20-2004, 07:09 AM
Alzimers isn't funny! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

Tooz_69GIAP
08-20-2004, 07:11 AM
I know of one Lancaster rear gunner who got 9 kills, I think. I foget his name though. I have a book somewhere about him. Might look it up. But he flew from about 1942 til the end of the war ending up as a pilot (he actually was gonna be a pilot first, but they were short on gunners, so they stuck him down for that instead) flying mossies doing photography and films and stuff for newsreels.

whit ye looking at, ya big jessie?!?!

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Tooz_69GIAP
08-20-2004, 07:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
There's a good book out about bomber gunner aces of WW2. I'll try to find the title for you. There were a few famous movie stars in the USAAC during the war who flew as gunners. I know that. I forget the guy's name though...

Boosher
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-Gandalf<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cary Grant was one. He was a Major or something, and he was first of all an aerial gunnery instructor, and then started doing documentaries and newsreels for the war department as part of the US propaganda stuff. He wasn't supposed to go on operational missions, but he flew a ton of combat missions, and I think he got a couple of kills.

whit ye looking at, ya big jessie?!?!

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LBR_Barkhorn
08-20-2004, 06:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
There's a good book out about bomber gunner aces of WW2. I'll try to find the title for you. There were a few famous movie stars in the USAAC during the war who flew as gunners. I know that. I forget the guy's name though...

Boosher
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Charles Bronson was an B29 tail gunner in Pacific, but i don't know if he achieved any kill...

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warweapon2
08-20-2004, 07:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tobus75:
Must be Ronald Reagan then, he forgot his name too... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stuff like that is just plain disrespectful...

Baltar
08-20-2004, 09:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by warweapon2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tobus75:
Must be Ronald Reagan then, he forgot his name too... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stuff like that is just plain disrespectful...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

...And yet hilarious http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-20-2004, 10:04 PM
I laugh, too. I find it hard to respect Reagan at all.

Despite all the revisionist history blubbering surrounding his funeral, I couldn't help but remember his narrow-minded hurtful policies and how they affected people not in his "club".

huggy87
08-20-2004, 10:14 PM
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