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Lixma
01-28-2004, 06:19 PM
Clouds are hardly the performance hog they once were so hows about increasing the amount ? As an option of course. Some variation in colour wouldn't go amiss either.

If you don't i'll be forced to develop 'those' negatives.

Lixma
01-28-2004, 06:19 PM
Clouds are hardly the performance hog they once were so hows about increasing the amount ? As an option of course. Some variation in colour wouldn't go amiss either.

If you don't i'll be forced to develop 'those' negatives.

Nazi_Boy_USA
02-01-2004, 07:34 PM
bump

God bless German Clouds

LEXX_Luthor
02-02-2004, 11:31 PM
This is a good idea. If we are playing the FB next year, and the clouds are still made for computers 3 years ago. Actually, larger clouds would be better than more clouds.

Unfortunately, the clouds are hard coded and fixed in place into the Maps. To get new clouds, we need all new maps. Don't be surprised if future maps may come with entirely new and larger clouds. Too bad the maps can't be upgraded with new clouds...or can they?



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LuckyBoy1
02-03-2004, 01:37 AM
UBIpeople, I hope you all have sense enough to disregard this nonsense. Maybe these three fools don't have a family to raise and pay for, but most of your demographics do, including me! Most of us don't have the money to justify this technology rat race that only serves a few whiners and keeps wonderfull games like IL-2 Surmovik Forgotten Battles from ever becoming mainstream.

It was very disheartening news to learn you now want us to have a Gig of RAM for the expansion pack. Many are still stuck with 256 of SDRAM. I've got 4 RIMMS of 128MB RDRAM and can't afford the $600.00 + U.S. that it would cost just to do a RAM upgrade. Most people with computers half as capable as my PC can run any other game they want except these flight simulation games just fine. They look at me like I'm crazy when I tell them what will be needed for good gameplay in IL-2 FB. Maybe these three fools have $1,000.00 U.S. per year plus the cost of cable internet service and all the tweaking time in the world at their disposal, but the real world does not!

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trumper
02-03-2004, 02:10 AM
Things have to progress at somepoint otherwise you would still be playing space invader type graphics.
Maybe there should be a way for lower spec computers to be able to play the games at its own level but allow top end machine to access all the upgrades and developements available at the time.
Computers are being updated so quickly that things are out of date before they are released to the public,same with cameras,audio/video equipment.
Things have to progress,the B o B game was announced last year and is still over a year away,what developements will there be available before that is released.

LEXX_Luthor
02-03-2004, 02:22 AM
Luckyboy was just making that up. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Nobody has slower computer than me.

Athalon 1700+
WinXP Homely
256MB 133MHz SDRAM
SiS integrated motherboard video

Already the "detailed" FB clouds run smooth as silk, they must upgrade the clouds. I will get a video card someday, although I am hoping the integrated video keeps pace and I will only upgrade motherboard.

There is a possibility that Luckyboy is running Trident motherboard video, then he/she has a Problem. I would know, just don't ask how I know. Luckyboy, if you need help configuring Oleg's "conf.ini" text file to get your Trident video chipset to work over the FB, we will help.



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LEXX_Luthor
02-03-2004, 02:38 AM
Oh, and no speakers so no FB sound. I usually listen to radio when I play the FB.

...And 15$ Saitek Cyborg joystick which is the most realistic stick for WW2 flight sims cos it only has 3 buttons, but it has the largest and BEST joystick throttle ever made, and my rudder is mapped to it. All for 15$.



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oFZo
02-03-2004, 06:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
Nobody has slower computer than me.

Athalon 1700+
WinXP Homely
256MB 133MHz SDRAM
SiS integrated motherboard video

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Two months ago me and my P3 450Mhz would have laughed at that http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

(Now I'm top of the line, 32bits wise)

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effte
02-03-2004, 06:34 AM
AMD T-bird 900 OC950.

I win!

jurinko
02-03-2004, 08:14 AM
ehm, back to the topic.. often the cloud cover is the only chance to survive for me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But they are too limited in size!
Concerning the maps, I dont think it would be a big problem to incorporate more clouds into them. Did you notice relatively small maps.sfs files in each upgrade? It added plenty of new terrain features into existing maps.
The only problem is that the amount of clouds seems to be fixed for hazy, poor, blind and rain/storm weather types, just visibility goes down.. some more exact distinctions in cloud amounts should be made.

LEXX_Luthor
02-03-2004, 11:19 AM
jurinko:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Did you notice relatively small maps.sfs files in each upgrade? It added plenty of new terrain features into existing maps.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No, I did not notice new terrain features. Any examples? I still have FB 1.0 on disk and can start it up and compare.

Thanks.



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LuftKuhMist
02-03-2004, 11:35 AM
I have a pentium 933MHZ with a GEFORCE4 TI 4200 and 364 RAM...

LEXX_Luthor
02-03-2004, 12:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> have a pentium 933MHZ with a GEFORCE4 TI 4200 and 364 RAM...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> *bleh* http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Anybody else here have integrated mobo video? Clouds are more a Video thing than a CPU thing.

Now if the AI could *see* the clouds, then clouds would be a CPU thing in missions with many AI planes.


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BaldieJr
02-03-2004, 12:42 PM
Rather than add more clouds, it would be nice to see distant clouds. As it is, faraway clouds just disappear. Not cool.

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LEXX_Luthor
02-03-2004, 01:20 PM
BaldieJr:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Rather than add more clouds, it would be nice to see distant clouds.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Jet sim Flanker 2.0 did that, with disasterous results. Little white flak puffs extending to horizon. They need to make bigger clouds, thunderheads even, as painted in that Bud Anderson website. More of the same we don't need.



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chris455
02-04-2004, 11:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nazi_Boy_USA:
bump

God bless German Clouds<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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LIDZ
02-04-2004, 11:59 AM
i have a spectrum 48K +
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thermal printer for FB screen shots

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02-04-2004, 03:33 PM
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JG7_Rall
02-04-2004, 04:07 PM
http://www.303rdbga.com/art-laurier-guardianangels.jpg

Now those would be some sweet clouds!

JG7_Rall
02-04-2004, 04:10 PM
http://www.pilotenbunker.de/Plakate/JLM-Nicolas%20Trudgian-Scramble%20for%20the%20Marianas.jpg

And how about one of these to take off from? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LeadSpitter_
02-05-2004, 07:39 AM
bump and dont forget the majority of people fly with clouds on medium which shows half the clouds of High. There needs to be an option to force high graphic setting clouds. and they need to get rid of the haze circle around the map which would improve fps alot or make it alot bigger

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LEXX_Luthor
02-05-2004, 12:28 PM
The Few and the Elite who have attained Perfect Mode Grafix Nirvana say they have a horizon twice as far away as the Mundane have with lesser FB grafix settings. If so, Oleg should let that far horizon be Optional for the Mundanes too.



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LeadSpitter_
02-06-2004, 10:37 PM
Im able to run perfect mode off line but get a miesly 30 fps and 15 over cities, I notice the circle haze around the map is the same, also from alt it looks like a round circle disk.

But i guess thats the problem of having small maps, better detail upclose to the ground but really bad mid and high alr graphics they do look alot better that oleg improved them but it needs work.

Oleg is right in his spanish interviews there is not one flight sim that even comes close to FB graphically, and theres no real competition in the wwii flight simulator market, hopefully there will be in the future

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LEXX_Luthor
02-06-2004, 11:59 PM
Lead what video card do you have?

The poor high altitude grafix really contradict the move to high altitude late WAR western front. Same with the low altitude FM thing. But then for an early WAR or pre~WAR game, the low altitude grafix outside of the cities and towns need more detail.

Thanks for talking!



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