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Chuck_Older
03-04-2004, 04:00 PM
If I have missed this, my apologies, but:

Half of what I read in posts here indicates that either you can't install the AEP over the latest update/patch of Il*2:FB OR they are replies to those posts, stating that there is no problem.

The other half says:

"I'm having trouble installing." Even Oleg has commented on this.

Ubi, please:

Confirm or Deny these issues as soon as possible! With the recent oversights in pre-ordering the AEP (resulting in folks that pre-ordered paying more for the product because of shipping, only to receive it AFTER it hits local stores), I would feel it is IMPERATIVE to address issues with the product itself as soon as possible in a clear and concise manner.

Wading through these posts here is NOT the way to communicate with your customers.

If there are issues with either installing AEP over the latest pre-AEP version of FB, let us know what to do!

If there are issues with installing in general, please, make it clear how to avoid this!

Again, if somehow I have overlooked the fact that this has been done, sorry for the inconvenience. I hope that somehow I have just overlooked these things, and I look forward to getting paid so I can buy AEP if and when I can locate it.

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Chuck_Older
03-04-2004, 04:00 PM
If I have missed this, my apologies, but:

Half of what I read in posts here indicates that either you can't install the AEP over the latest update/patch of Il*2:FB OR they are replies to those posts, stating that there is no problem.

The other half says:

"I'm having trouble installing." Even Oleg has commented on this.

Ubi, please:

Confirm or Deny these issues as soon as possible! With the recent oversights in pre-ordering the AEP (resulting in folks that pre-ordered paying more for the product because of shipping, only to receive it AFTER it hits local stores), I would feel it is IMPERATIVE to address issues with the product itself as soon as possible in a clear and concise manner.

Wading through these posts here is NOT the way to communicate with your customers.

If there are issues with either installing AEP over the latest pre-AEP version of FB, let us know what to do!

If there are issues with installing in general, please, make it clear how to avoid this!

Again, if somehow I have overlooked the fact that this has been done, sorry for the inconvenience. I hope that somehow I have just overlooked these things, and I look forward to getting paid so I can buy AEP if and when I can locate it.

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chris455
03-04-2004, 04:14 PM
Chuck.
I installed AEP over 1.22 successfully. Many others report a similar expeience.

Having said that, I also experienced the "mising V-1 Rocket" issue that has been cited as "proof" that you can't insatll AEP over 1.22.

The problem lies in a single file, Bldconfig, which is to be found in your IL2 root directory. After editing this file according to Oleg's instruction (a VERY simple thing) Voila! I had a V1. ( still not sure what to do with it though.

The necessity for this was that the Bldconfg file was marked "read-only" and could be amended by the install program. This wa a small error and was NOT version specific.

Any reports that you can't install AEP over 1.22 are due to a well intentioned but false thread posted yesterday on two of the boards. I hope my first hand experience will be proof enough that there is no problem in doing so.
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Chuck_Older
03-04-2004, 04:33 PM
Definitely worth knowing, Chris. Thanks!

We shouldn't have to rely on the community to spread the word, but if that's all we can get, it's all we can get.

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steve_v
03-04-2004, 04:36 PM
Attention: About bug reports / Oleg Maddox's Ready Room

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=63110913&m=731107852

The above thread says it all.
Chuck, I would have expected you to see through the vast negative wasteland of crap that has been posted in this forum concerning AEP installation. My personal favorite was the dis-information that the B-25 wouldn't install. The list of planes in AEP has been posted on a sticky in this forum for days, and guess what. NO B-25! DUH!!

Chuck_Older
03-04-2004, 04:39 PM
I thought that was odd, Steve.

I read so much BS about this stuff during my lunch break, I couldn't tell what was what anymore. Then I came home and logged on and ...o...my...god...I just couldn't take it anymore, I wanted to hear it from the horse's mouth.

I will go check that thread in ORR, thanks.

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steve_v
03-04-2004, 04:42 PM
Let me add a little ditty I found in another thread dealing with AEP installation which explains alot.


Oleg_Maddox
VIP

The installer will copy files only to the place where was installed officially FB. And only buy this way.
If you moved or copied pirated FB then installer will not even install AEP and wil say that FB isn't found....

Chuck_Older
03-04-2004, 04:46 PM
Ah...I believe they call that one the Russian Tiger Trap ;)

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03-04-2004, 05:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>vast negative wasteland of crap that has been posted in this forum concerning AEP<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why are you so full of hate, Steve?

While I was posting constructive advice, all you could manage was to attack my credibility. People like you are worthless.

JG52_wunsch
03-04-2004, 07:06 PM
hey
i installed it over 1.22 no problems,cheers

"anyway the lunch bells ring,take one hour and
do your thanng. cheeseburger." lol

BuzzU
03-04-2004, 07:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cosmokart:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>vast negative wasteland of crap that has been posted in this forum concerning AEP<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why are you so full of hate, Steve?

While I was posting constructive advice, all you could manage was to attack my credibility. People like you are worthless.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Have you never been to the tech forum? I would hardly call Steve worthless. He's probably tired of the same thing over and over. How many have to say it's ok to install over 1.22 before people believe it?

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03-04-2004, 07:19 PM
Steve certainly took a disliking to me. Maybe he got confused among all the genuine negative BS being posted at the same time.

He had an offensive attitude and did't contribute one bit to the 1.22 installation investigation.

In the end, it turned out that the AEP installer refues to overwrite some files in version 1.22, but it only affects some systems. Steve didn't know that; he didn't even care. All he did was run interference and hurl insults. Hardly constructive at all.

Maybe he has a big ego because he DOES post so much on the tech help forum. I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes, but if he keeps being an *** I will treat him as such.

BuzzU
03-04-2004, 07:22 PM
I thought he posted a lot because he was some kind of tech mod?

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03-04-2004, 07:24 PM
I don't know... is he a mod? He sure doesn't come off like one.

steve_v
03-04-2004, 08:13 PM
BuzzU

Here is a link to the thread in question, authored by cosmokart. I made three posts. You decide for yourself.

WARNING: Do not install AEP over FB v. 1.22
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=421104852&p=1

arcadeace
03-04-2004, 08:25 PM
Well I'm just glad I haven't purchased mine yet. If I end up with a problem, I'll stick it up my asshat!

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Udidtoo
03-04-2004, 08:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cosmokart:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>vast negative wasteland of crap that has been posted in this forum concerning AEP<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why are you so full of hate, Steve?

While I was posting constructive advice, all you could manage was to attack my credibility. People like you are worthless.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

????????????????????????????????????

Steve V, you just keep on keeping on. I'll take you and Hunters "" Worthless"" posting anyday. You have both helped me and about 1 zillion others here more than we can thank you for....so thank you again!

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AFJ_Locust
03-04-2004, 10:20 PM
Regardless its a much cleaner install if you start from scratch & redo it all

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JG52_Helgstrand
03-05-2004, 01:50 AM
cosmokart, if you'd have been around for more than a couple of weeks you would know Steve_V
is one of the most helpfull ppl on this forum... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Another nOOb who know not WTF they talk about.

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RobertNighthawk
03-05-2004, 02:59 AM
You do not know Steve V.

Let me hip you, sophmoric one. Out of the generosity of his spirit and his love for this game, Steve V, every day, on his time, helps others enjoy the game. These are people he will likely never meet and who take his superb advice, most usually without even a civilized "thank you". How much more could one do to spread the love unselfishly?

How many people have you helped lately?

Steve V is a fine man. Don't come here to hate on him. It speaks volumes as to your ignorance.

03-05-2004, 09:06 AM
You people have such lovely attitudes.

Steve V caught flak because he dismissed me out of hand. He didn't stoop so low as to call me "noob", though.

I'm offering constructive advice. Some of the elitist ****** on this forum (Helgstrand, RoberNighthawk, and others) jump to Steve's defence because he's got seniority.

Wrong is wrong. Right is right. Taking an elitist attitude against "noobs" only makes you look like a fool.

And if you insult me or cop a pissy attitude, you can expect to be written off as a moron. I'm not here to waste my time talking to fools who think they're special because of a high postcount.

h009291
03-05-2004, 09:12 AM
Well ... I say if I PAY for something, then that gives me the right to ***** or complain as much as I want.

Free Patches on the otherhand, should be taken as free gifts with few complaints.

AEP is not however.

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MajBlunder
03-05-2004, 09:15 AM
I installed over 1.22 and all was fine, even the V-1 entry in the bldconfig was there.

FMB hasnt given me any fits either.

"Light travels faster then the speed of sound. Thats why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak"

Chuck_Older
03-05-2004, 09:16 AM
Cosmo, pardon me for saying, but Steve never mentioned any names at all, and now you're taking offense personally.

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Wave bub-bub-bub-bye to the boss, it's your profit, it's his loss~ Clash

03-05-2004, 09:25 AM
You are absolutely right, Chuck.

Steve_V isn't that bad of a fellow. Aside from his initial assault, he had been a good person.

The problem is, we've got idiots jumping into the conversation. Sometimes it's hard to separate the signal from the noise. It has affected both of our interpretations of what's going on.

I take personal offense, because I was offended. Don't F- with me and you'll be much better off.

TugZooey
03-05-2004, 09:42 AM
Yesterday I asked "what's the official word on installing AEP over 1.22?" in ORR and Oleg responded that I should have no problems and that it is OK to do it.

But he added the disclaimer http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif that I may want to go ahead and uninstall everything and reinstall AEP over FB 1.0.

Oh, and I think you all are fine fellows.

03-05-2004, 09:54 AM
Oleg is right. In theory AEP should install over FB 1.22 without problems.

In reality (sometimes....) bldconf.ini and possibly other files got set to read-only and AEP installer fails to overwrite. It is strange.

So... since consumers do not have a definitive CHANGELOG of all affected files, the best way to "be sure" is to lay AEP over a fresh install of FB 1.00.

Taylortony
03-05-2004, 10:25 AM
Will this mean i will have to dust of my discs and remove my nocd?

jgur1
03-05-2004, 10:58 AM
I installed over 1.22 and NO problems....Even get to still use the No CD crack without reinstalling it...FWIW... Great addon BTW..

BlindHuck
03-05-2004, 12:21 PM
Installed over 1.22 fine. Verified by clean install comparison, same. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Parenthetically, is there an official asshat, or do we have to make our own? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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JG52_Helgstrand
03-05-2004, 12:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cosmokart:
You people have such lovely attitudes.

Steve V caught flak because he dismissed me out of hand. He didn't stoop so low as to call me "noob", though.

I'm offering constructive advice. Some of the elitist ****** on this forum (Helgstrand, RoberNighthawk, and others) jump to Steve's defence because he's got seniority.

Wrong is wrong. Right is right. Taking an elitist attitude against "noobs" only makes you look like a fool.

And if you insult me or cop a pissy attitude, you can expect to be written off as a moron. I'm not here to waste my time talking to fools who think they're special because of a high postcount.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What is this seniority you talk about?
I don't consider post count as a sign of seniority or nOObynEss, you could have a 5000 post count and you'd still be a nOOb, Steve_V could have a post count of 1 and I would still consider him a very valuable member of this community...Post count is nothing, attitude is everything...
And the attitude you seem to have is bound to rub even the most laid back person the wrong way.
Big deal I called you a nOOb, new people are very welcome on this forum, but if you start ****ging off respected members WTF do you expect?
Yes, right is right and wrong is wrong and you is wrong! Go check out CWOS Fneb!

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Old_Canuck
03-05-2004, 12:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>.... I'm not here to waste my time talking to fools who think they're special because of a high postcount.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


It's not about seniority or postcounts. It's about attitude. Steve_V has EARNED respect in this forum by consistently helping others over a long period of time. Get the picture?



OC

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RobertNighthawk
03-05-2004, 02:55 PM
Kosmo, your bad attitude is only eclipsed by your obvious megalomania. It's all about YOU, isn't it.

"I take personal offense, because I was offended. Don't F- with me and you'll be much better off." (whoooo....I'm scared now tough guy)

"If you insult me or cop a pissy attitude you can be expected to be written off as a moron."

Like we care what YOU think? My, but you are so self-important.

As to my being an elitist *****, you are just jealous. You are just a wannabe. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
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