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CromCCCXVI
07-05-2017, 11:47 AM
Someone told me you fixed the chain stuns on Centurian and the game was playable again, I guess they lied.

I played 3 minutes of a Dominion match, against 3 Centurions. I got the jump on the first one, over extended for second, he got the stun... I never recovered as he chain stunned me to death in essentially a one hit kill.
Second time a Centurion hit me first, I countered well, he managed to land a stun and then rattle off the same move 3x in a row draining my full health and my stamina.

Such a shame, this was a really fun game back when it was attacking, blocking, counterattacking.... giving your "new classes" chain moves where I can essentially sit controller down, walk into the kitchen for a drink, then come back and I still don't have the stamina to counter? Wow. Call me if you fix it, I'll be hanging out with the other 95% of your original player base that you lost.

Mia.Nora
07-05-2017, 11:56 AM
People used to tell me to just dodge. And that quite angered me, but ever since I mastered the dodge timing my experience have been much better.

Timing for dodge is the first 30 seconds the moment you see a centurion on enemy team. Try it, you wont go back :cool:

Gray360UK
07-05-2017, 12:41 PM
People used to tell me to just dodge. And that quite angered me, but ever since I mastered the dodge timing my experience have been much better.

Timing for dodge is the first 30 seconds the moment you see a centurion on enemy team. Try it, you wont go back :cool:

Haha, I love this comment ;) (it's funny because it's true)

The_B0G_
07-05-2017, 12:53 PM
People used to tell me to just dodge. And that quite angered me, but ever since I mastered the dodge timing my experience have been much better.

Timing for dodge is the first 30 seconds the moment you see a centurion on enemy team. Try it, you wont go back :cool:

Lol I do the same thing, if I see 2 or more cents on the other team, quit and retry another matchmaking.

It's getting to the point where 1 is too much now, as it only takes 1 to stun lock you while any other class can hammer away at you beside him.

He really is ruining this game, the Ubisoft game testers should be fired, I have no idea how they ever thought the Cent was remotely balanced. He needs major nerfs, I think stamina pool nerf would help a lot, but then you still have 2 cents vs 1 other player that would still be an issue, really his entire design is flawed. Too many CCs that are too easy to pull off back to back.

Calling him a melee specialist as some type of excuse is also ridiculous too, seeing how this is a melee fighting game... everyone is a melee specialist, except the Shinobi, who for some reason was given ranged attacks and ranged grabs.

I still really like the game, it's just a shame I probably won't play again, besides the last day of faction war rounds, until season 3 hits and the Highlander comes. I can't understand why it takes soooo long to nerf such a massively OP character.

FluffyRocket32
07-05-2017, 03:42 PM
Although I agree that the Cent's stamina management is not right, I have to say that in a 1v1 scenario he is not OP. If you dodge his stuns you're gonna kick his @ss. In a 4v4 scenario though yeah he can be really annoying.

The_B0G_
07-05-2017, 04:38 PM
Although I agree that the Cent's stamina management is not right, I have to say that in a 1v1 scenario he is not OP. If you dodge his stuns you're gonna kick his @ss. In a 4v4 scenario though yeah he can be really annoying.

Until you fight a Cent that doesn't recklessly attack with CCs, turtle Cents have a pretty heavy punish.

Anarnam
07-05-2017, 06:03 PM
He should have reduced kick speed for every subsequent use of this **** (or increased stacking stamina cost for 3-4 sec for each subsequent kick)

MasterChiefPON
07-05-2017, 06:34 PM
Until you fight a Cent that doesn't recklessly attack with CCs, turtle Cents have a pretty heavy punish.

True that. There's a problem with Cent because his moves are very punishable but if he decides to turtle and parry you get punished so hard for a parry, if it's a heavy parry and there's a wall near then you know what happens, same with light parries but without the wall and I have been victim of a Cent gb'ing me and throwing me into a corner and then heavy > jab > wallsplat > heavy > jab > wallsplat and I couldn't get out :(

FredEx919
07-05-2017, 07:45 PM
We'll keep working on Cent based on the feedback and gameplay. There's certainly more to be done there. Unfortunately it's been a slow process, but definitely not the last of balance changes to be made for him or other characters.

Ulrichvonbek111
07-05-2017, 08:16 PM
We'll keep working on Cent based on the feedback and gameplay. There's certainly more to be done there. Unfortunately it's been a slow process, but definitely not the last of balance changes to be made for him or other characters.

We keep hearing this,,repetitively so.
What pleasure do you derive players have facing Centurion,,
Warlord, ,conqueror gank squads ,,who only get the chance to gank because they've punched,,bashed,,kicked spammed every member of your team before getting to you..
Yes sometimes it works outthat you fell them,,but that would be roughly 11% of the time..
WHAT I CARE ABOUT IS THE OTHER 89% OF THE TIME...
IT'S BECOMING B,,O,,L,,L,,O,,C,,K,,S MY FRIEND.
YES I STILL HAVE GREAT FAITH FOR THE FINAL OUTCOME OF THE GAME,,BUT PLEASE IMPLEMENT THIS ASAP BECAUSE YOU MAY FIND YOU'VE DESTROYED WHAT HAD THE CHANCE OF BEING A CLASSIC..

MasterChiefPON
07-05-2017, 08:20 PM
Warlord throw distance and headbutt are still stupid since we are complaining about something.

Wolf-Heathen
07-05-2017, 09:24 PM
We'll keep working on Cent based on the feedback and gameplay. There's certainly more to be done there. Unfortunately it's been a slow process, but definitely not the last of balance changes to be made for him or other characters.

I would much rather get a glimpse into his design process, you know, to prevent such an egregiously unbalanced character being released in future updates. Particularly what was the intent in conceptualization, and what was the thought process that allowed him to be released in the state that he was in Season 2? The mere fact that he is taking this long to balance, by your own admissions, just speaks to how poor of a process Q&A and balance testing was for this character.

This character has had an extremely adverse effect on this game, and has driven away a vast majority of the already dwindling population of players. What assurances do we have that future releases won't be just as bad as the Centurion?

UbiNoty
07-06-2017, 12:34 AM
Also the fix for the cc stacking won't be in effect until 1.09 (which hasn't been released yet) - patch notes here (https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-community/152-294588-16/patch-notes-v109).

(just thought you should know...)

Mia.Nora
07-06-2017, 12:44 AM
Also the fix for the cc stacking won't be in effect until 1.09 (which hasn't been released yet) - patch notes here (https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-community/152-294588-16/patch-notes-v109).

(just thought you should know...)

You seriously can not think we are stupid enough to buy that minor change as a fix?

I mean I know.. we ARE stupid for believing that after 2 months of data gathering and careful consideration you would find a meaningful way of nerfing Centurion, but we are not THAT stupid.

Just wanted to clarify how stupid we are :o

UbiNoty
07-06-2017, 01:01 AM
You seriously can not think we are stupid enough to buy that minor change as a fix?

I mean I know.. we ARE stupid for believing that after 2 months of data gathering and careful consideration you would find a meaningful way of nerfing Centurion, but we are not THAT stupid.

Just wanted to clarify how stupid we are :o

I was referencing the OP's "fixed the chain stuns on Centurian". I never said it was a full fix, only that I believed that is what he is referring to. I merely wanted to give him some more information as to what it is and why it's not yet in effect.

I apologize if I was not clear enough in my first response. Also, please refrain from throwing around insults (about yourself or others as well) - thanks!