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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 11:16 PM
It can't be done because there are no documents showing the instrument panels etc etc. So stop asking.

Unless you have an uncle who was a spy in 1940 and stole blueprints for them and saved them in his attick, forget it!

There will never be a PE2 or 3 in IL2 ever. Asking over and over and over again will not make it happen.

Sheesh!

XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 11:16 PM
It can't be done because there are no documents showing the instrument panels etc etc. So stop asking.

Unless you have an uncle who was a spy in 1940 and stole blueprints for them and saved them in his attick, forget it!

There will never be a PE2 or 3 in IL2 ever. Asking over and over and over again will not make it happen.

Sheesh!

XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 11:39 PM
You're exactly right...

Apart from the bits after you said "It can't.." /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

There are several perfectly preserved Pe-2 in collections in Russia eg at <a href=http://www.JG11.com/><img border="0" alt="III/JG11 Homepage" src=http://www.users.on.net/apoulos/jg11.jpg> (http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~agretch/Monino/mon94js_pe2.jpg>Monino</a>)
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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 11:49 PM
Gonzo here must be looking to model the Pe~2/3. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Of course the FM needs FM documentation too, but if there is none then Oleg could approximate as we are dealing with a "missing classic."

...but we don't have the engine sounds WWHHAAAA.

Well, put like that, then No Pe~2/3. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

But then at least we may not (or may) get the frame "stutter" like in aircraft with sounds.

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 12:00 AM
I sincerely wish that I was wrong about the Pe2 Pe3 Pe8 etc but I doubt it. It's been said over and over. Why do you think no other Sim has modelled these? There is a reason.

Show me somebody who has the material and is doing a model and I will eat crow.

Ill be waiting...

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 12:04 AM
Because every other sim due to market-focus or cultural background has kept regurgitating sims based in the ETO or PTO.

Although...you could be right. Why wasn't there a Pe-2 in EAW?

*sigh*

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 12:12 AM
Because it was not an eastern front sim, silly. There were no Russian planes in EAW at all!!!

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 02:20 AM
For those who won't click hobnails link to see a REAL Pe-2, here is the picture
http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~agretch/Monino/mon94js_pe2.jpg


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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 02:46 AM
How you like that crow, rare, medium or well done?

As for plans, I can't be convinced that you couldn't find some 3-views detailed enough to get the job done. In fact, a look at my catalog for Bob's Aircraft Documentation shows that they have plans for Pe-2s in the highest grades they sell (which often have detailed writeups, wing root cross sections, details on cabin stations, etc.

Anything else you'd need, it seems like you can get straight from the source, so to speak, using a digital camera.

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 03:02 AM
Gonzo, il2center has had a Pe-2 and 3 in developement for awhile now..... my crow always tastes better with Tony Chachere's Cajun Seasoning. Works great on mudbugs too! I'm not trying to flame anyone, but I wanna fly them from something besides external. (apparently there is a flight model, and sounds already....)

(I haven't been to Sig's 'R Us yet, so sig is forthcoming)

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 09:50 PM
ROFL - Good one guys /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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