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Cippacometa
06-09-2004, 07:12 AM
Ok, I manage to build the Fw.190/Ju.88 Mistel on FMB, take off with it, fly, and drop the Ju.88.

Now, the problem is: how can you make that flying bomb go where you want when you drop it??

The BIG problem is that when the Ju.88 is left alone, it has the tendency to gently pull up, with the result that it goes down very far past the target.

I've tried several techniques, alone or together:

1) Trimming nose down: no way, trim doesn't work on Mistel. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
2) Dropping the Ju.88 while slighlty pushing forward the stick: absolutely not, since you collide with the Ju.88 as soon as you drop it, as it's going up as usual while you go nose down into it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif
3) Giving zero throttle just before dropping: it doesn't help much, since the Ju.88 will still glide up. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
4) Going as slow as possible in order to diminish the lift on the Ju.88 (and zero throttle): it helps a bit, but the "birdbomb" would still glide far past the target. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
5) Staying with the bomb as much as possible near the ground to lead her on the target: no way, the huge blast will blow apart your little Fw.190 (and you!). http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Any hint?

Cippacometa
06-09-2004, 07:12 AM
Ok, I manage to build the Fw.190/Ju.88 Mistel on FMB, take off with it, fly, and drop the Ju.88.

Now, the problem is: how can you make that flying bomb go where you want when you drop it??

The BIG problem is that when the Ju.88 is left alone, it has the tendency to gently pull up, with the result that it goes down very far past the target.

I've tried several techniques, alone or together:

1) Trimming nose down: no way, trim doesn't work on Mistel. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
2) Dropping the Ju.88 while slighlty pushing forward the stick: absolutely not, since you collide with the Ju.88 as soon as you drop it, as it's going up as usual while you go nose down into it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif
3) Giving zero throttle just before dropping: it doesn't help much, since the Ju.88 will still glide up. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
4) Going as slow as possible in order to diminish the lift on the Ju.88 (and zero throttle): it helps a bit, but the "birdbomb" would still glide far past the target. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
5) Staying with the bomb as much as possible near the ground to lead her on the target: no way, the huge blast will blow apart your little Fw.190 (and you!). http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Any hint?

BBB_Hyperion
06-09-2004, 07:59 AM
Reduce throttle to 30 % or more fly straight and position the Mistel in a slight downpath. Drop it when your heading and sink rate approx the aquired target. When you drop it too early it pulls out of the slight dive , too late it will run into the ground .Takes little training .)

Regards,
Hyperion

Cippacometa
06-09-2004, 08:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BBB_Hyperion:
Drop it when your heading and sink rate approx the aquired target.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you Hiperion for your response.

But,could you clarify the above sentence of yours, please?

For the rest, throttle 30%, fly straight in a slight downpath, drop neither too early nor too late. I'll give a try when back home!

Art-J
06-09-2004, 10:14 AM
I had the same problem when I started to test Mistel after AEP release. I suggest reconsidering point number two. This is exactly what can be seen on track recorded by developers, when You turn external views on. Notice that the guy on the track pushes the stick forward and releases the bomber, which elevetors REMAIN in slightly lower position as well. He doesn't collide with Ju-88 because he pulls up quickly enough. Turn down time acceleration a little to take a closer look. When I saw it, I tried it myself (plus chopping the throttle) and it worked! This was in pre-patch times and I don't know if the plane will behave the same way now. I think I'll try to set up a training mission again...

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Jumoschwanz
06-10-2004, 09:57 PM
First you cannot be too high, between 1000 and 1500 meters alt to launch. Speed should be under 250 km/hr. Angle of attack should be steep, At least thirty degrees. Set throttle at thirty percent.

I come up close to the target around 1300 to 1500 meters alt at less than 250kmhr. I chop the throttle to thirty percent and then nose her over until the target is in the crosshair and hit the release. This has worked very well for me.
I think the steep angle of attack, low alt, and slow speed before release are the three keys to success.

Jumoschwanz