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Jenny_B
07-26-2004, 02:08 PM
Which altitude have you reached in the Me-163, without smoking ganja in the cockpit? I took it up to 80 000 meters (starting at 10 000m in the QMB), which should have made the sky black (but it was still dark blue) and, according to www.scaled.com, (http://www.scaled.com,) should be high enough to be weightless.

Still 20 000m missing to earn a pair of astronaut wings, but probably some 58 000m higher than the real Komet would ever fly.

--Jenny

Jenny_B
07-26-2004, 02:08 PM
Which altitude have you reached in the Me-163, without smoking ganja in the cockpit? I took it up to 80 000 meters (starting at 10 000m in the QMB), which should have made the sky black (but it was still dark blue) and, according to www.scaled.com, (http://www.scaled.com,) should be high enough to be weightless.

Still 20 000m missing to earn a pair of astronaut wings, but probably some 58 000m higher than the real Komet would ever fly.

--Jenny

hobnail
07-26-2004, 02:21 PM
Welcome to the boards.

I'll impart one of the secrets of the IL2 enging known only by me and 10,000 other people..

Altitude modeling ceases at ~12,000m in AEP. ie same gravity, density and drag at 80k as at 12k.

tsisqua
07-26-2004, 02:27 PM
Jenny, in real life you would have run out of fuel long before you attained that altitude, so I assume (trick word http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) that you were using unlimited fuel. Try again with full difficulty and check you results. The actual service ceiling would have been around 12,100 meters, or around 39,700 feet.

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Jenny_B
07-26-2004, 03:29 PM
Thx Hobnail, that solves the mystery.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tsisqua:
Jenny, in real life you would have run out of fuel long before you attained that altitude, so I assume (trick word http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) that you were using unlimited fuel.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, that was with limited fuel which was used up at 80 000m. The start was from 10 000m though, so that was a bit of cheating.

--Jenny

tsisqua
07-27-2004, 09:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jenny_B:
Thx Hobnail, that solves the mystery.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tsisqua:
Jenny, in real life you would have run out of fuel long before you attained that altitude, so I assume (trick word http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) that you were using unlimited fuel.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, that was with limited fuel which was used up at 80 000m. The start was from 10 000m though, so that was a bit of cheating.

--Jenny
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ha ha! I gotcha! Looking back on your post, I see that you were more than aware of what the real capabilities were.

There was another thread that someone posted . . . They made a story board using screenies from the Komet . . . it was really quite funny as the black hole devoured the ground below. All that was missing was Rod Serling. (Twilight Zone, for the youngsters here).

Tsisqua

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Aero_Shodanjo
07-27-2004, 09:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jenny_B:
Which altitude have you reached in the Me-163, without smoking ganja in the cockpit? I took it up to 80 000 meters (starting at 10 000m in the QMB), which should have made the sky black (but it was still dark blue) and, according to http://www.scaled.com, should be high enough to be weightless.

Still 20 000m missing to earn a pair of astronaut wings, but probably some 58 000m higher than the real Komet would ever fly.

--Jenny
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here's the link:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=503105765

You beat me by 30 km plus. Darn, I was convinced that 50 km was the limit... lol

Btw, did you see something strange with the sun and the earth below? Still wonder if it's hardware related or not.

Oh, speaking about the running guy in the last pic, he didnt smoke ganja up there. Just a clove + tobacco mix. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

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Fennec_P
07-27-2004, 11:09 AM
Keep in mind that if the Me-163 could have unlimited fuel in real life, it probably could go into space.

The T/W ratio is greater than 1/1, and the fuel doesn't require oxygen to burn.

If you added some booster rockets, an external fuel tank, directional thrusters, and a space suit for the pilot, I don't see why it couldn't go into orbit. Of course, thats just the Space Shuttle, without the orbiter.

Coming back down would be no problem. According to IL-2, you could just parachute from there.

Cragger
07-27-2004, 12:16 PM
The Me-163 in IL2 has twice the fuel capacity or half the fuel consumption as the one in real life if I remember correctly. Why this was done is anybody's guess except for Mr Maddox and team.

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NegativeGee
07-27-2004, 12:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cragger:
The Me-163 in IL2 has twice the fuel capacity or half the fuel consumption as the one in real life if I remember correctly. Why this was done is anybody's guess except for Mr Maddox and team.

http://redspar.com/redrogue/cragger_sig.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats true. Also, from what I've read the engine was very sensitive to shutdown's and starts.... I think a pilot had to allow 2 minutes between stopping the motor and re-igniting it. I suppose the 163 in FB is really there as a bit of light entertainment and not hugely faithful (in the regard of engine operation and endurance) to the actual thing.

"As weaponry, both were good, but in far different ways from each other. In a nutshell, I describe it this way: if the FW 190 was a sabre, the 109 was a florett, or foil, like that used in the precision art of fencing." - G√ľnther Rall

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Ak9779
07-27-2004, 01:23 PM
The 163 is included for the sole purpose of having something to dogfight the Russian B-1 rocketplane with when you're having a less than serious day http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Just strap on your Buck Rogers helmet first.. and prepare for:
*cue 50's announcer*
ROCKET BATTLE!!!!
AT SPEEDS SO FAST, THEY THROTTLE THE IMAGINATION!!

Later,
Ak

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MACHINE GUN : JAMMED
FUEL TANK: LEAK
ENGINE: ON FIRE
PILOT: WOUNDED
...Yeah, it's gonna be one of those days...

Jenny_B
07-27-2004, 04:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aero_Shodanjo:
Btw, did you see something strange with the sun and the earth below? Still wonder if it's hardware related or not.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nothing strange with the sun, althoug it should have become a big star against a black sky like in the old EA Chuck Yeager sim when you played Buck Rogers in the SR-71.

The earth was swallowed by the green blob on my system too.

Dropping down after flame out, I reached about 2500 kph TAS at 4-500 kph IAS. The Komet explodes if you keep diving Stuka style all the way into denser air.

The pilot is some sort of Super Alien: he bails out with neither oxygen, nor space suit at 80000m without any problems.

--Jenny

Spinne_3.-JG51
07-27-2004, 08:59 PM
I'm glad someone remembered my crazy comic book. The Komet has no Alt or Speed limits in the game, and I think it'd be cool to have a Komet only server with all the difficlty options turned down!

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LEXX_Luthor
07-27-2004, 09:37 PM
Atmosphere changes continue above 12km, at least in some ways, like fuel mixture for Xample.

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