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05-21-2004, 06:18 PM
Help! - What is the best way to tackle a squadron of B17's? - I am finding it difficult to stay in the air!

05-21-2004, 06:18 PM
Help! - What is the best way to tackle a squadron of B17's? - I am finding it difficult to stay in the air!

05-21-2004, 06:22 PM
Galland liked head on attacks in his 262. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/smileys-gun2.gif

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05-21-2004, 06:27 PM
You have to dive on them and if possible make sure there is more than one of you diving at a time.

Attack the box from behind on your own and your toast

05-22-2004, 08:18 PM
From what I read, they usually dove in, head on, in a line abreast formation. If BOE has the commands like IL2, use these options and have your group hit your target. Single out a specific plane & get as many of your group to hit it. The '17s flew "box" formation in several "layers". Each "box" was at a different altitude (layer), and each "layer" could help cover the one above & below. There was a blurb about a C.O. changing all this and not only did he get killed, but practically every plane was lost on that mission. They lost their mutually supporting fire. It was the one & only time they tried that. Check this out, hope it helps.
It is the field of fire for a B-17G.

05-23-2004, 09:07 AM
Don't rush your attack. Chances are you've been steadily climbing to 7000m and your airspeed is quite low. You need to continue climbing to about 8000m and make sure you are at full speed before you start your attack, diving from above to aim at engines, wing roots or cockpit. Then pull up again and get to a safe distance above the target. Repeat!

Tip: Try to attack with a wingman covering you. This will give the tail gunners something else to shoot at.


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05-23-2004, 09:20 AM
Also remember you don't need to down a bomber on every pass. Luftwaffe pilots were give credit for a "Herrashusse" (probably spelled wrong) wich means to damage one sufficiently for it to fall back from the rest of the formation. Once it is alone it's easy prey

05-23-2004, 09:54 AM
Take a look on the tracks also.

My favorite tactic is aproaching 12 o´clock low aiming at the wing, very rewarding. I found it easier than coming from 12 o´clock high. The problem is after you pass the enemy formation you´re an easy target, roll and dive, fast!

More difficult, but very effective is a dive from almost 90º, if well done you have a real big target and a most certain kill. All this in 190s or Ta152s of course.

Btw, against heavies patience is paramount.

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05-23-2004, 10:14 AM
I prefer coming from 3/4 or 8/9 clock high close to maximum divespeed, give short snapshot to wingroot from 100-150m, egress...

I'm lousy shot so I need to get close enuff to hit http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Make sure u wont stay below them too long as those ball turret guys seem to b really lethal, also keeping constant variation in direction with minimum giving away E keeps u quite safe = bank, dont pull http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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