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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 12:41 AM
Ok personally I think most of the new weapons suck that's just me. I don't think they add anything to the game most of them I haven't even herd of. I think if your going to add any new guns you should at least add some GLOCKS of different calibers. Another thing I thing you should add is more attachments for the weapons. For example a grenade launcher and a front handle for the assault weapons, or an extendable but and full automatic switch for the Glocks. And I kind of wish that you could attach more than one attachment so everyone could really customize their weapons.

Maybe you guys think I am totally loony or don't know what I am talking about. but id rather have changes like that to the existing weapons which are cool and are the most common now a days anyways than come out with a bunch of stupid weapons. But I do like the M240G I think it is a good addition. But most of them are not.

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 12:41 AM
Ok personally I think most of the new weapons suck that's just me. I don't think they add anything to the game most of them I haven't even herd of. I think if your going to add any new guns you should at least add some GLOCKS of different calibers. Another thing I thing you should add is more attachments for the weapons. For example a grenade launcher and a front handle for the assault weapons, or an extendable but and full automatic switch for the Glocks. And I kind of wish that you could attach more than one attachment so everyone could really customize their weapons.

Maybe you guys think I am totally loony or don't know what I am talking about. but id rather have changes like that to the existing weapons which are cool and are the most common now a days anyways than come out with a bunch of stupid weapons. But I do like the M240G I think it is a good addition. But most of them are not.

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 01:01 AM
Please Tell me what you guys think

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 01:07 AM
I'm not very pleased with SOME of the selections either...

The H&K SL8 was an extremely poor selection. From what I have heard about it- it's just a civillian version of the G36. Not very eventful seeing as one of the most popular weapon selections in the new weapon polls we had on the forums was the G36c... Makes me just shake my head that they would include the SL8 over the compact G36K. A G36c would've been a real crowd pleaser.

The Beretta 93R wasn't a poor selection, it has the new 3-shot selection to offer, putting it somewhere in between pistol and submachine gun. My only beef with this is that it got the nod over the M1911. The 93R was a popular weapon in fan-made mods for Rogue Spear, however. If that makes a difference...

The Spectre M4 offers us another spray 'n pray weapon along the lines of the MAC 11/9. I personally would've liked to have seen the MP7 included over the Spectre in the SMG department, but the Spectre should be fun to use in those extreme close quarters wars, nonetheless.

The inclusion of the M240G doesn't impress much at all... But I'm kind of biased that the LMG doesn't have much of a place in the R6 series. LMG's just never seemed to fit into the mix all that well. But if they really had their heart set on adding another LMG then the M240G was probably the best one they could have picked. It's used alot by US special forces. And that should make it an authentic-feeling weapon for the expansion.

The Benelli M4 Super 90, the H&K G3KA4 and Groza OTS look like they will be very nice additions. I look forward to trying them out.


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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 01:52 AM
I guess UBI Italy put their own little flaver into the expansion. Aren't 3 of them Italian?

I'm really looking forward for the Groza,, great gun in GR.

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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 02:11 AM
Ok I see where the bereta comes from.

But how do you guys feel about the idea that i through out about the addition of more ability to customize your wepons. like the frag launcher and the front handle for wepons like the M4 or G36k.

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 02:44 AM
well the idea of customizing your weapon further was out since the day RvS was released. infact, there's a MOD project that's already working (just working on the bugs now i believe but not sure) on using 2 attachments plus the ability to use flashlights, and i think a LASER sight was one of them too.


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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:49 AM
Elkow00 wrote:
- think if your going to add any new guns you should
- at least add some GLOCKS of different calibers.

Agreed, Glocks should appear - they are in use by lots of units. But if you ask me, there shouldn't be too many; certainly the 17 and 18, and presumably the 21. The others are fairly redundant, though I'd be pleased to see the Glock 26 as one of the extra items - you know, in the 3 and 4 slots, as a backup "panic gun"...

- Another thing I thing you should add is more
- attachments for the weapons. For example a grenade
- launcher and a front handle for the assault weapons,

M203s and the like aren't really appropriate for a CQB game; in Ghost Recon they're useful, but not at all appropriate for RvS.

I think the pistol grip should have appeared as well, but I don't see what good it could do in-game, apart from improving stability, accuracy and recovery. No downsides, though.

- or an extendable but and full automatic switch for
- the Glocks. And I kind of wish that you could attach

Extendable butt and auto switch for Glocks? Are you sure about that? Only the Glock 18 has a select-fire capability, and I've never seen any stocks for any of them.

- more than one attachment so everyone could really
- customize their weapons.

Definitely; ideally, perhaps, allowing one attachment per point, so a quad rail with a fifth picatinny over the receiver would allow five attachments.

Elkow00 wrote:
- Ok I see where the bereta comes from.

I don't. It's amusing to play with, but apart from the Carabinieri, I don't know any units that use it.

- But how do you guys feel about the idea that i
- through out about the addition of more ability to
- customize your wepons. like the frag launcher and
- the front handle for wepons like the M4 or G36k.

Handle good, M203 bad.


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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 05:09 PM
I saw the weapons and I wasn't at all impressed. Except the g3ka4 and the m240g the weapons aren't that impressive. I'd have prefered a weapon like the IMI magal, which you can view in http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault/magal/magal.html.

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 05:16 PM
i really wanted a glock 20, love 10mm rounds

the HK GMG would of been fun, and user friendly ;-)
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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 03:01 AM
damn, we need GMG

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 07:46 PM
I'll be more impressed if the game doesn't create "Major errors" when you load it. I'm not going to buy it until the original works properly. If they can't do that, my money will find its way to Valve and HL2 where some modder will take care of the problems.

XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 07:56 PM
being able to make your own weapons wud be a very nice idea, say a g36 with a m16 stock, all those wud be good, or to have the ability to have diff mods for your guns wud be an upside 2, these are all good suggestions and i think ubi shud focus more on what the people want

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 07:59 PM
I don't know much bout guns, but I do think the shotties need more damage

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XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 09:43 PM
I wish they had a tactical grenade launcher. I don't know what to call it, but one of those grenade launchers that have about 8 barrels.

That nade launcher would be good at providing smoke to cover movements or shoot tear gas into a spot to flush out the bad guys.

XyZspineZyX
07-08-2003, 09:58 PM
Considering the kind of game, I believe the grenade launcher attachment for assault rifles is TOTALLY inadequate. There is already unrest between the players because of the FRAG spamming that occurs on many levels... what you think would happen if a 203 is added to the arsenal? In my opinion... it would turn out like QUAKE 3 ROCKET ARENA...

Ok. In many levels the weapon would not be usable, since there is a minimun trigger distance for 203 nades (like 15 meters or so) that wouldnt let you nade someone right in front of you, but if ANYBODY in a team is allowed to EQUIP IT TO HIS ASSAULT RIFLE... DUDE... I dont know (and dont even WANNA know) how much bullets would be fired in a round... we'd have... like ... a 10000% decrease in bullets fired!!!

Other attachments (bipod, bayonet, lollipop launcher, ecc.) ok. 203... BAD.

XyZspineZyX
07-09-2003, 01:05 AM
What if the 203 didn't use the explosive grenades but instead used tgas grenades, smoke grenades, or flashbangs?

XyZspineZyX
07-09-2003, 03:56 AM
the idea of that was tossed around a few times, but usually in RvS SP(where alot of the kits were developed for), you wont be needing to toss those at extreme distances

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XyZspineZyX
07-09-2003, 04:59 AM
He he, i am laughing over the SL8. This rifle never even sold well. HK is either cutting production all together or by over half.
http://www.hkpro.com/SL8-1.jpg
Wow, so not cool. Its even civi, wiht a 10 shot clip YIPPIE!http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. Really UBI, Half-Life 2 and Deus Ex 2 is going to take you over.

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XyZspineZyX
07-09-2003, 05:07 AM
i agree with the point bout lmgs, they are virtually redundant in this game, they need to be made more effective or dropped, adding another was madness. very little imagination seems to have gone into a sword. oim not buying it.

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