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mikeallen35
06-04-2004, 03:18 PM
Hi All,

I have just started the pilot career flying in the luftwaffe.
Now the first mission starts off with me approx 6th or 7th in line waiting to take off. The 109 in front of me takes off & i follow shortly afterwards.
Now, once airbourne the aircraft that took off in front of me seem very hard to catch up with if not dammned impossible.
The 109's which were behind me on the strip are also nowhere to be seen. Am i doing something wrong here?
Anyway, i try to follow the 109's that i can see up front even though i can't seem to catch them up & then the action starts without me & it says the mission is complete.

So how can the mission be complete without me being in the area of action & without me firing a single shot at the enemy??

never mind i thought, lets try the next mission. Now this is annoying as this second mission went the same way.

This is great as i will live till the end of the war without firing a single shot at anyone 7 have flown lots of missions without seeing any action.

I must be doing something wrong here, please help.

Super game & graphics, just fantastic.

Cheers

Mike.

mikeallen35
06-04-2004, 03:18 PM
Hi All,

I have just started the pilot career flying in the luftwaffe.
Now the first mission starts off with me approx 6th or 7th in line waiting to take off. The 109 in front of me takes off & i follow shortly afterwards.
Now, once airbourne the aircraft that took off in front of me seem very hard to catch up with if not dammned impossible.
The 109's which were behind me on the strip are also nowhere to be seen. Am i doing something wrong here?
Anyway, i try to follow the 109's that i can see up front even though i can't seem to catch them up & then the action starts without me & it says the mission is complete.

So how can the mission be complete without me being in the area of action & without me firing a single shot at the enemy??

never mind i thought, lets try the next mission. Now this is annoying as this second mission went the same way.

This is great as i will live till the end of the war without firing a single shot at anyone 7 have flown lots of missions without seeing any action.

I must be doing something wrong here, please help.

Super game & graphics, just fantastic.

Cheers

Mike.

Chuck_Older
06-04-2004, 03:28 PM
This is actually a common complaint.

Firstly, the artificial intelligence planes don't play by the rules you must. You would need an incredibly powerful PC to make them have the same effects you react to. So they sorta have an easier time than you in general. You may wish to takeoff, take the correct heading, and hit 'autopilot'. You will then catch up, more likely than not.

Your position in the flight is determined by rank. If you lead the squadron, you are plane #1. Until then, you are a wingman.

Mission objectives are not your personal objectives, they are what is required to complete a mission, during that mission. So if the mission is to escort bombers, as long as enough bombers survive, you win. If it is a fighter sweep, the sim has a parameter set for percentage of fighters shot down in the target flight. If that is met, you win, even if you never fired a shot.

Successful missions get you promoted. Enough successful missions, and you will lead the squadron.

You are doing nothing wrong, but for a more exciting campaign, you may wish to choose a different unit, or campaign time or location.

When you choose a campaign, you can change a lot of things, including the plane. You are not stuck with the plane listed in most cases, click on the plane during the campaign setup screen and see if others are available. So you may be able to fly your favorite plane, in a different campaign, and see more action.

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Or can I hear the echoes from the days of '39?
~ Clash

mikeallen35
06-04-2004, 03:34 PM
Hi Chuck thanks for the fast reply,

once it says mission complete do i just turn around & head back to base & land?

Sorry to be a bit of a thicko but i'm new to this combat lark.

Cheers
Mike http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Black Sheep
06-04-2004, 03:45 PM
Pretty much, yes.

Personally, I always try to fly home with the rest of the squadron, though if I'm seperated I tend to just make my own way back.

You may sometimes find targets of opportunity on the way back too - I never pass up an opportunity to shoot up a train http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Welcome to the forums, hope you enjoy the sim.

JG52_Helgstrand
06-04-2004, 03:48 PM
Gotta take off faster...
Start moving down the runway as soon as the guy in front of you does, and get as much speed before lift off as you can, use the whole runway (I've got to 260 before)...Don't climb too steeply, try to maintian speed and climb gradualy, if you do it right you can climb and actualy gain speed...
And try taking off without flaps, don't need to in a fighter, just slows you down...Raise your gear as soon as they clear the ground.
As far as the AI behind you, not a lot ya can do...

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nickdanger3
06-04-2004, 04:29 PM
Along the lines of what JG52_Helgstrand said, call up your mental picture of WWII fighter planes taking off - they hug the ground for a while so that they could build up speed and then start climbing.

There is a difficulty setting "NO INSTANT SUCESS" that when turned on requires you to land to apply an accomplished mission.

If you don't have that one turned on, when you see the "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" you have a choice to make - if you feel like you've learned enough about landings, then you can hit ESC and Quit then apply the mission to your career. Or you can decide to land the plane.

It's good pratice to try and land especially damaged planes, so that when you go online and landings are (usually) required, you'll have experience with less than perfect planes.

Just like hitting autopilot to help you keep up on takeoff, you can use the autopilot, and some time compression, to get you bad most of the way to base, then take over for the actual landing.

Lav69
06-04-2004, 04:41 PM
Also if you replace the in game dynamic campaign with DCG you can determine in DCG what speed your squadron flies at (usually 300) and it is easier to stay with your flight. Much easier.

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mikeallen35
06-04-2004, 04:53 PM
Great replys chaps,

What is DCG & where do you get that from?

I have the expansion pack installed, is this DCG another add-on for the game?

Oh, by the way, is sleep not needed anymore once ya start playing this game http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Time flys when your having fun. Just love watching those tracks. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

mikeallen35
06-04-2004, 04:55 PM
one other thing,

Can you download liverys?

I would look for a Black Six livery RN228(Now static in hendon) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

thanks

Taylortony
06-04-2004, 05:03 PM
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But give us skinners some time, we have only managed to produce 11,408 skins (Liveries) so far.... But 1,881,392 Downloads tells you we must be doing something right http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Chuck_Older
06-04-2004, 05:13 PM
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The hillsides ring with, "Free the People",
Or can I hear the echoes from the days of '39?
~ Clash

Echo50
06-04-2004, 06:40 PM
just one thing to add to all these replies. I find that often there will be a waypoint out on the runway heading, which then turns either right or left towards the next waypoint. By cutting this corner after takeoff i almost always catch up with my wingman before the second waypoint. of course it all depends on distances between points and what not. be warned though, that if u skip a waypoint, then engage autopilot, it will backtrack to the waypoint u skipped, then follow the flight path from there. That can be very frustrating, if you don't know why its doing that.

Zeus-cat
06-04-2004, 06:56 PM
Some of the advice I got a while back is to do the following:

1) take off and gain just a little altitude - 50 to 100m.

2) Raise your gear and flaps as soon as possible.

3) Stay at full throttle until your speed is well above cruise speed for the plane you are flying. Back it off to 80% or so so you don't overheat.

4) Climb slowly and at a rate that doesn't bleed off your speed.

5) Let your AI leader and other planes climb faster than you if that is what they want to do.

If you keep up your speed you will eventually climb to teh AI altitude.

Zeus-cat