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olaleier
05-26-2004, 12:01 PM
I'm getting a 2048/448 line tomorrow (I hope, should be enabled today, but alas... )
and I wondered if any of you big hosters have done some sort of bandwidth logging. Would be nice to get an idea of where the limits are.

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olaleier
05-26-2004, 12:01 PM
I'm getting a 2048/448 line tomorrow (I hope, should be enabled today, but alas... )
and I wondered if any of you big hosters have done some sort of bandwidth logging. Would be nice to get an idea of where the limits are.

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BaldieJr
05-26-2004, 12:33 PM
Don't screw with the default HL speeds and you'll be able to host plenty on that connection. Bandwidth usage is quite low at this setting, and very effiecient.

However, be advised that almost ZERO residential services are full-duplex, therefore you can never send/recieve at the same time. This makes a huge difference in how many you can host smoothly. Half-duplex connections will always suffer lag because of collisions.

EDITED: There has been a change in the definition of DSL since my last training session. It seems that noone is offering full-duplex DSL anymore, and the 'async' portion of ADSL now represents bandwidth differences in up/down traffic.


Stick with 16 players. You'll have 16 happy users for sure.

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Maj_Death
05-26-2004, 12:41 PM
16 players should not be a problem with that. If it is truely ADSL (I have true ADSL BTW) then you can probebly increase it to 20-24 players. I suggest just testing some. Start at 16 players and slowly raise it until people claim it is getting laggy. Then cut two player slots.

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olaleier
05-26-2004, 12:54 PM
Is there a difference between what you can market as "ADSL" and what is defined as real ADSL?

Broadband ISPs in Norway don't offer anything but ADSL at entry-level prices. (SDSL and others are quite expensive)

16 players is more than enough I guess, I plan on hosting some online dynamic campaign sessions and scripted ground attack servers, but mostly Lock On games.

Or to be true, mostly playing as client on other servers. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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crazyivan1970
05-26-2004, 01:37 PM
10 MB down, 1MB Up

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Yellonet
05-26-2004, 01:43 PM
AsymetricDSL = Different speed up/down
SymetricDSL = Same speed up/down


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olaleier
05-26-2004, 01:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
10 MB down, 1MB Up

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Is that your connection, or the ratio between up/down data?

And Yellonet, yeah, we all know that. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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Teufel_Eldritch
05-26-2004, 02:03 PM
How many ppl can I host with this?

546 / 134
Your download speed : 559246 bps, or 546 kbps.
A 68.2 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 137457 bps, or 134 kbps.

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WOLFMondo
05-26-2004, 03:28 PM
24 players and 10MB both ways but its in with a couple of other servers like UT2K4.

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olaleier
05-26-2004, 05:23 PM
WOLFMondo: 10 MB what? Megabytes pr minute / hour? megabits pr sec? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

crazyivan1970, what does your "10 MB down, 1MB Up" mean?

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Osirisx9
05-26-2004, 10:19 PM
The Warbirdsbirds of Prey server will use 455kbs with a full house (32) on one of its sessions. I can send you the test if you like. The server also is connected to a 10mbs unmetered dedicated line.

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crazyivan1970
05-26-2004, 10:54 PM
10Mbps Download speed, 1Mbps upload speed.

V!
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Taylortony
05-27-2004, 01:43 AM
Ahh there are some companies trying to sneak this in in the UK at the moment, wanando is one, but as an older user we do not have a Bandwidth Limit, infact few providers over here do have any limit!........

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609IAP_Recon
05-27-2004, 04:28 AM
1 something down, 512ish up.

I find on my machine that 10-12 pilots is best. Although after patch it seems I can eek a few more out.

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WOLFMondo
05-27-2004, 05:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by olaleier:
WOLFMondo: 10 MB what? Megabytes pr minute / hour? megabits pr sec? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
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10Mbps both ways although I think its gonna be moved or may already have been moved to a 4mbps line as its doesn't use much bandwidth compared to BF1942 and BF:V which are also run from the same location (Im just responsible for it, the server is 3000 miles away in Raleigh, North Carolina and kindly hosted by wolfgaming.net)

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olaleier
05-27-2004, 06:16 AM
Thanks for the input guys.

I'll try to learn as much as I can about scripted servers, 8/10/12 slots might be more than enough.

I'll leave the 32-slot dogfight servers to the big boys. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Now I'm off to ponder settings and wait for the lazy ISP... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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EmbarkChief
05-27-2004, 11:37 AM
Dumb question:

How do you measure the bandwidth being used while the game is running?

EmbarkChief
05-27-2004, 05:33 PM
Here are my speeds from a little while back...

:::.. Upload Stats ..:::
Connection is: 354 Kbps about 0.4 Mbps (tested with 386 KB)
Upload Speed is: 43 KB/sec
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Bottom Line: 6 times faster than 56K you can upload 1MB in 23.81 second(s)
Validation Link :: http://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=D6OX0M78R



:::.. Download Stats ..:::
Connection is:: 2959 Kbps about 3 Mbps (tested with 1496 KB)
Download Speed is:: 361 KB/sec
Tested From:: http://www.testmy.net/
Bottom Line:: 53 times faster than 56K you can download 1MB in 2.84 second(s)
Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/cgi-bin/get.cgi?Test_ID=YJ7IIVM0P

lil_labbit
05-27-2004, 06:11 PM
Try NetPeeker (search with google)
It gives a nice graphics display (5 min, 1 hour, 1 day) of network traffic. Its a firewall, popup stopper, and much more too.
You also can limit bandwidth per program running, and trace all IP's http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif connecting to your computer...

Here's a sample of what it displayed for d/l-ing then 108MB COD movie posted in this forum:
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(I have a 2.5Mbps down and 256kbps up cable connection - to be doubled in speed 1st of Juli http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

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EmbarkChief
05-27-2004, 06:26 PM
Thanks! How many planes do you think I can run with my connection? I've run 13 so far with no problems.... Just wondering where the upper limit is.

lil_labbit
05-27-2004, 06:37 PM
It all depends on the upload realy... since the download is mostly far bigger...

I DO know that as a host put your bandwidth to say 80% of what-you-have (UPload-wise). As a player set it to 56kbps no matter what you have...

It also makes a difference if you run the dedicated server (although that still connects to the WRONG ROOM (Ivan update?)...

Max players (and thats the limit is 32).

Also make sure all planes in game are pre-loaded (place static planes on the map somewhere where they dont get shot-at) and put skin d/l OFF. Do NOT place too many objects on the map (they get updated = data) especialy ships ... 25mm AAA and all vihicles that have smoke tracers kill gameplay - thats Graphics I think... and big cities with many buildings are bad too as are big maps...

That's about it...

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olaleier
05-27-2004, 07:58 PM
Thanks alot for all the input guys...but I'm still not 100% on this...

You definately SEND more data than you recieve...during play I mean.

So is it about the ratio that 2048/448 is? (approx 1:3.4)

I'd rather host for a few guys and have Ventrilo too, but I think it will do nicely for casual hosting. And dammit, downloading stuff rocks now!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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JG27_Aristo
05-27-2004, 10:58 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
10 MB down, 1MB Up

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EmbarkChief
05-28-2004, 07:22 AM
Thanks!