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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 06:02 PM
Including RaybanJockey, and *gasp*, me! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I've done some long hard thinking and am sickened to the point of nausea to conclude that FB is designed to be a cheaters haven. You all pride yourselves in flying "Full Real" and being "Realism" buffs when in reality you're all kidding yourselves, me included.

Proof:

-anyone that has more than Gun1 and Gun2 on their joystick is exploiting the "joystick mapping" cheat

-anyone using trackIR is exploiting the "natural head movement" cheat

-anyone using resolutions above 800x600 can see more than a WW2 pilot could through those goggles, and so using the "high resolution" cheat

-anyone that doesn't need to reach to deploy flaps, trim, or even a bomb release is exploiting one of many "ergonomic" cheats

-anyone who doesn't need to physically get up and crawl to the bombadier's position is using that old arcade game "warp" cheat

-anyone that doesn't have to reach their feet down and apply left and right pedals to use their rudder is exploting the "foot-free-rudder" cheat

-anyone that uses padlock is exploiting the "computer assisted enemy tracking" cheat

-anyone using multiple monitors is definitely exploiting the "as large as life" cheat

-anyone using 3D glasses is exploiting the "depth of perception" cheat

-anyone that doesn't vomit profusely in the early days of their FB training is exploiting the "steel stomach" or "Gravol" cheat

-anyone that doesn't have blood rush to their head during high G maneuvers is exploiting the "G-Immunity" cheat

-anyone that doesn't get their brains blown all over the inside of their canopy in a grotesque display of tasteless mess during a PK is exploiting the "HighGore=0" cheat

-anyone that doesn't smell like smoke and have serious burns after ejecting from a burning cockpit is using the "inflammable" cheat

-anyone using a hat switch to look around is exploiting the "Head on a Hat" cheat

-anyone using in-game chat is exploiting the "in-game chat" cheat

-anyone that isn't somewhat uncomfortable from their parachute is exploiting the "Comfortable Seat" cheat

-anyone that flies with cockpit off is exploiting the "Get your head sliced into a million pieces in a second by the prop" cheat

-anyone that has their campaign set to be daytime only flights is exploiting the "I'm afraid of the dark" cheat

-anyone that hits "Refly" after getting killed is exploiting the "Invincibility" cheat

-anyone using voice communications is exploiting the "talk like real pilots actually do" cheat



I'm interested to know how many of you can now claim you're not cheaters. I don't use padlock, 3D glasses or rudder pedals and have to reach to apply trim, but otherwise I'm a pretty hard-core cheater. You?

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 06:02 PM
Including RaybanJockey, and *gasp*, me! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I've done some long hard thinking and am sickened to the point of nausea to conclude that FB is designed to be a cheaters haven. You all pride yourselves in flying "Full Real" and being "Realism" buffs when in reality you're all kidding yourselves, me included.

Proof:

-anyone that has more than Gun1 and Gun2 on their joystick is exploiting the "joystick mapping" cheat

-anyone using trackIR is exploiting the "natural head movement" cheat

-anyone using resolutions above 800x600 can see more than a WW2 pilot could through those goggles, and so using the "high resolution" cheat

-anyone that doesn't need to reach to deploy flaps, trim, or even a bomb release is exploiting one of many "ergonomic" cheats

-anyone who doesn't need to physically get up and crawl to the bombadier's position is using that old arcade game "warp" cheat

-anyone that doesn't have to reach their feet down and apply left and right pedals to use their rudder is exploting the "foot-free-rudder" cheat

-anyone that uses padlock is exploiting the "computer assisted enemy tracking" cheat

-anyone using multiple monitors is definitely exploiting the "as large as life" cheat

-anyone using 3D glasses is exploiting the "depth of perception" cheat

-anyone that doesn't vomit profusely in the early days of their FB training is exploiting the "steel stomach" or "Gravol" cheat

-anyone that doesn't have blood rush to their head during high G maneuvers is exploiting the "G-Immunity" cheat

-anyone that doesn't get their brains blown all over the inside of their canopy in a grotesque display of tasteless mess during a PK is exploiting the "HighGore=0" cheat

-anyone that doesn't smell like smoke and have serious burns after ejecting from a burning cockpit is using the "inflammable" cheat

-anyone using a hat switch to look around is exploiting the "Head on a Hat" cheat

-anyone using in-game chat is exploiting the "in-game chat" cheat

-anyone that isn't somewhat uncomfortable from their parachute is exploiting the "Comfortable Seat" cheat

-anyone that flies with cockpit off is exploiting the "Get your head sliced into a million pieces in a second by the prop" cheat

-anyone that has their campaign set to be daytime only flights is exploiting the "I'm afraid of the dark" cheat

-anyone that hits "Refly" after getting killed is exploiting the "Invincibility" cheat

-anyone using voice communications is exploiting the "talk like real pilots actually do" cheat



I'm interested to know how many of you can now claim you're not cheaters. I don't use padlock, 3D glasses or rudder pedals and have to reach to apply trim, but otherwise I'm a pretty hard-core cheater. You?

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 06:38 PM
Here we go again... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 06:40 PM
I think I must be a cheat: I turn off the clouds. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 06:42 PM
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Good one Dex. The sad thing is that I wouldn't be too surprised if someone actually compained about some of the things in your post.

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Message Edited on 06/22/0305:42PM by Demolisher_

XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 06:46 PM
I confess. Dex is a cheater.

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 07:05 PM
I use the "Inflammable" and "Invincibility" cheats... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif



Message Edited on 06/22/0308:06PM by Ketalar

XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 07:06 PM
Dang it Dex You got me on all of them but the padlock, 3d glasses,Hat button, and getting my head in the prop cheat.

The one you forgot was the get out and flap your arms really fast too stay with your aircraft and look aroun cheat.

Oh and on the Hat button cheat, If you have TrakIr you can nearly run all your CEM with your thumb cheat.


Maybey if I quit trying so hard to cheat I'd get good enough to fly better.



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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 07:08 PM
I use all the ones you dont have to pay extra for (flash 10-button stick, TrackIR etc.)

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 07:08 PM
Anyone not following a chart from some obscure reference is obviously cheating.

XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 07:11 PM
You forgot the ones with the good soundcard and speakers who exploit the "Find em by the souns of their guns " cheat. ...... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 07:35 PM
TRRRRRROOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


This whole track IR thing is stupid. So what if they can see directly behind them? If you're back there you have the advantage! Quit your whining. It's getting old.

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 09:39 PM
And people on voice comms are guilty of attack coordination cheat.

XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 09:55 PM
Flying with a bunch of cheaters seems to be OK. It's the constant cry babys and whiners that kill the fun. Give me the dishonored cheater please, they put on a much better game.

XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 09:57 PM
This thread is so stupid.

Whoops I just commited the "stating the obvious" cheat.

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 10:02 PM
RayBanJockey wrote:
- This thread is so stupid.
-
- Whoops I just commited the "stating the obvious"
- cheat.


I guess it's much easier for you to disagree with the entire premise of the thread than figure out an opposing viewpoint for each of the cheats like you do with everything else, eh RBJ? Whasta matter, feeling a little lazy today? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

BTW, this post is entirely a joke in case anyone didn't get that.





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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 10:06 PM
Rasies hand as high as it will go. I got it! I got it!

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The_Blue_Devil
06-22-2003, 10:10 PM
Sigh...

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 10:13 PM
Give me Raybanned on a slidda, and I'll down him any day of the week./i/smilies/16x16_robot-wink.gif I'll even allow him to look back and watch the tracers.

XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 10:24 PM
Take a look see in Oleg's ready room. There is serious thread on cheating. Some of these cheats really get me PO'd http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 10:24 PM
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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 10:29 PM
Can you give us a damn reason RBJ?

You morons get all flamey about something that was purposely integrated into the game. If you dont' like it, too bad. All your complaining and whinings is doing is tearing apart the community. Bet you feel realy proud of that.

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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 10:32 PM
guilty of drinking fresh coffee from a mug during games, and this kind of coffee was not even produced untill 1996.
Also guilty of not really dying after being shot down - and i must confess when it looks like i parachte - i am really sitting comfortably in an armchair at home.
Anyway, this thread made me realize i am flying a sim and not a reall ww2 plane. damn..

XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 10:38 PM
Popov_Smirnov wrote:
- Take a look see in Oleg's ready room. There is
- serious thread on cheating. Some of these cheats
- really get me PO'd /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif


I didn't realize that thread was over there. As far as I'm concerned I consider FB to be a pretty solid simming platform. I fly with friends, or at least folks I believe to be respectable, and we have a good time.

I think the debates over "this is a cheat" bother me more than the thought that there may actually be cheats out there.

Sort of like one time I was flying an IL2 3-series and cleaning the clock of a sh!tty LA5 pilot and he accused me of cheating over and over. He was the only guy I didn't know in the server so we all found it rather funny. The fact of the matter is I just flew better than him. It's the accusations that pi$$ me off.

As with life, there's always going to be someone pulling a fast one. It's not like we're playing for money so if some jerk is truly cheating, switch to another server, I guess....





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XyZspineZyX
06-22-2003, 10:48 PM
I hope at lest half of these cheats are adressed in the patch, or else i'll whine forever!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
06-23-2003, 12:15 AM
Well if I'm the guy hosting an online game, how the heck am I going to know if some of these guys are using the "wireframe cheat" or the "screen shot cheat" or other cheats that aren't even known to exist outside cheating circles?

I would feel better if I knew the developer cared enough to look into the matter, point out some of the known cheats and attempt to remedy the situation for good.

As far as the most of the "built in cheats" pointed out in this thread, they are part of the game and if they are enabled on the server your playing on I fail to see what the issue is.

Quite agreed, go find another server if ya don't like the settings.

XyZspineZyX
06-23-2003, 12:18 AM
Just fly with the copckpit off.

You'll have more fun and don't have to worry about the cheaters.

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XyZspineZyX
06-23-2003, 12:21 AM
I thought there was a cheat that lets you fly no cockpit, in cockpit only servers. I'd be more worried about that, than this TrackIR thingy.

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XyZspineZyX
06-23-2003, 02:48 AM
vecdran wrote:
- All your complaining and whinings
- is doing is tearing apart the community. Bet you
- feel realy proud of that.
-


This was the funniest post in this entire thread! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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I'm just saying...


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XyZspineZyX
06-23-2003, 04:35 AM
MAD_TOAD wrote:
-- The one you forgot was the get out and flap your
- arms really fast too stay with your aircraft and
- look around cheat.

I have not laughed so d*#ned hard all day /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Thanks, Toad/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
06-23-2003, 05:06 AM
yeah cheater!!



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XyZspineZyX
06-23-2003, 05:47 AM
dex is mad.

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XyZspineZyX
06-23-2003, 11:06 AM
dex is funny.