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Osirisx9
04-28-2004, 03:04 PM

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04-28-2004, 03:04 PM

Eagle_361st
04-28-2004, 03:16 PM
Has to be the P-47. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif No other US aircraft in the game can do all that it can do as well as it can. But I am a little biased too. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifA very close second would be the P-51, because she is a real screamer and when flown right can own about anything with a prop.

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tfu_iain1
04-28-2004, 03:20 PM
id say the p-51 d20NA (i think) because of the tremendous visibility, good handling, speed, and the predictor sight. the lack of physical endurance is less important if you fly it high like you should

if you like to fly full real all of the above are serious advantage, more so than manoeverability... if you take your opponent by surprise from above it doesnt matter how fast or manoeverable he is, and in a turning battle the predictor can give you a serious edge in saving ammunition in deflection shots. as does the visibility

CaptainGelo
04-28-2004, 03:21 PM
p63.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Huckebein_UK
04-28-2004, 03:22 PM
I hate to sound like a conformist but it has to be the P-51 for me... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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noshens
04-28-2004, 03:23 PM
P40

Cajun76
04-28-2004, 03:25 PM
P-47, but I cheat on her with the P-63....

P-40 is excellent, too.

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Cyrano
04-28-2004, 03:25 PM
P51D, reason: what Eagle_361st said.

arcadeace
04-28-2004, 03:28 PM
I vote the Mustang. The P-63 is my choice for 2nd.

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Steaky_361st
04-28-2004, 03:29 PM
Id say probably the P47 first, then the P63...

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Venom079
04-28-2004, 03:30 PM
1. P-47
2. P-40
3. P-51
4. P-38

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Xnomad
04-28-2004, 03:34 PM
P-63 Kingcobra

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KGr.HH-Sunburst
04-28-2004, 03:35 PM
as a fighter the P51D20/NA nothing comes close
F16 like high speed handling *cough*
good firepower
can turn with a 109G
and is very fast

what more do you want ?

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Maple_Tiger
04-28-2004, 03:36 PM
Who needs a P-51, P-47, P-40 or P-39 when you can have the P-38 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kidding lol. I'll have to say the P-51D, because it can do everything well. My second favorit ride is the P-38 though. I would rather fly the P-38 then the P-47 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

My P-47 and i are going through a difforse right now. Although, im not finding it too hard to get over it lol.

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BpGemini
04-28-2004, 03:42 PM
I like the P-63 and P-39 equally.
I voted P-63 since it can dictate more battles.

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Chuck_Older
04-28-2004, 03:43 PM
P-51D in my opinion, with the P-47 a close second. I can take or leave the K-14 sight, but the P-51 seems to get me out of trouble easier than the P-47, and for me, that's the selling point even if it weren't my all time favorite aircraft- I feel more capable in it, and safer.

Maybe if the P-47's damage model didn't drive me nuts I'd say P-47

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LeadSpitter_
04-28-2004, 08:30 PM
p39 and p63 without a doubt

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04-28-2004, 08:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Osirisx9:
Sry I left out the P-40, Just wasn't any more room but your voice opinion about this bird too. My choice is for the P-63. It took me weeks to master that damn cannon. No german bird can catch it on the deck, It climbs like a bat out of hell, and it turns pretty damn well once you master the freaky stall behavior. The real treat is that cannon after you master it. I understand that it might get some tweaking in the DM because the Luftwhinners are upset that their 108s cant tear the wings off the thing or it wont catch on fire. But that is Ok with me, but beware the new cannon that the bird is getting in the patch will make the changes in the DM a non issue. Hmmnn 37mm explosive shells instead of the armor peircing sounds sooooooo good. Instead of taking 3 hits to bring down a 190, now it will take just one.

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Korolov
04-28-2004, 09:12 PM
Best, all-around in the game currently, P-47. The firepower, dive speed and controls, altitude performance, and multirole capability all square it into a good fighter. All assumes you're going up against contemporary Axis opponents, on full difficulty settings.

For more lax settings, the P-63 and P-39 get my vote, with the P-51 as a close third.

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chris455
04-28-2004, 11:49 PM
Guess.

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Dmitri9mm
04-29-2004, 12:08 AM
WHERE IS THE B-239!!!!!
That's clearly my favourite.
Of the ones you listed I'll go for the P-38, but the Brewster is unbeatable, why leave it out?
Crab-planes forever!

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huggy87
04-29-2004, 12:59 AM
If the P-63 is so great, why did the Americans not keep any for themselves? They gave about 4000 to the soviets and I don't think the Ami's ever used them operationally (correct me if I am wrong).

Stalker58
04-29-2004, 01:23 AM
What I fear most is being bounced with well flown P51...

Altitude, speed, manoeuvre and.... CRASH!

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04-29-2004, 01:23 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif The P-38

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04-29-2004, 03:57 AM
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ImpStarDuece
04-29-2004, 04:06 AM
P-51C (the one with the Malcom hood) is the best. All others, number two or lower!

Just cause it's so damned pretty! With 4 .50cals i can merrily blast away at anything and be almost, but not completely sure, that i won't be able to bring down anything.

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ImpStarDuece
04-29-2004, 04:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by huggy87:
If the P-63 is so great, why did the Americans not keep any for themselves? They gave about 4000 to the soviets and I don't think the Ami's ever used them operationally (correct me if I am wrong).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The USAAF kept about 300 P-63c as manned target drones! They were used for areial gunnery training. They put heavy armour all over the top surfaces (including the cockpit) and removed the armament. Gunners would then shoot 'frangible' bullets at them which broke up on impact. A Bright red light would then light up on the nose when a hit was recorded. I think they were called "pinball' or something like that. Several were lost when gunners fired as the Aircobra peeled away and gunners hit the underbelly of the plane which, most unfortunately, wasn't armoured.

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BSS_Goat
04-29-2004, 05:45 AM
UUUUUUHHHHHH p-51 D

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Osirisx9
04-29-2004, 06:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by huggy87:
If the P-63 is so great, why did the Americans not keep any for themselves? They gave about 4000 to the soviets and I don't think the Ami's ever used them operationally (correct me if I am wrong).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now you know that us Americans have always been told that we have the best buttered bread, best water, best food, best woman,best economy, best airforce, best army, best government, best cars, best houses, best land, and the best country. Now what makes you think that anything will be different when it comes down to who has the best opinions. We Americans are always right and dont ever foreget that again. Especially when us americans talk about the P-63. Who cares what anyone elses opinion is? Hmmmn

Osiris_X9

Chuck_Older
04-29-2004, 07:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ImpStarDuece:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by huggy87:
If the P-63 is so great, why did the Americans not keep any for themselves? They gave about 4000 to the soviets and I don't think the Ami's ever used them operationally (correct me if I am wrong).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The USAAF kept about 300 P-63c as manned target drones! They were used for areial gunnery training. They put heavy armour all over the top surfaces (including the cockpit) and removed the armament. Gunners would then shoot 'frangible' bullets at them which broke up on impact. A Bright red light would then light up on the nose when a hit was recorded. I think they were called "pinball' or something like that. Several were lost when gunners fired as the Aircobra peeled away and gunners hit the underbelly of the plane which, most unfortunately, wasn't armoured.

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Correct, they were called "Pinballs"

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04-29-2004, 07:36 AM
or pinball wizards http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

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Lunix
04-29-2004, 07:50 AM
Well I have to say the P51-C but there will allways be a soft spot in my heart for the P-39-Q10 as she was my first love.

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BaldieJr
04-29-2004, 08:47 AM
P-40 is all-around best US fighter. Its capabilities are balanced with its performance. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know how to fly it.

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huggy87
04-29-2004, 09:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Osirisx9:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by huggy87:
If the P-63 is so great, why did the Americans not keep any for themselves? They gave about 4000 to the soviets and I don't think the Ami's ever used them operationally (correct me if I am wrong).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now you know that us Americans have always been told that we have the best buttered bread, best water, best food, best woman,best economy, best airforce, best army, best government, best cars, best houses, best land, and the best country. Now what makes you think that anything will be different when it comes down to who has the best opinions. We Americans are always right and dont ever foreget that again. Especially when us americans talk about the P-63. Who cares what anyone elses opinion is? Hmmmn

Osiris_X9<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now, no need to get snooty osiris. My point is simply that it is a beloved plane in this forum. If it was so great in real life, you would think the people who built it (read, americans) would actually want to use it themselves.

Oh, and btw, I prefer european bread and my cars are both Japanese. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Huckebein_UK
04-29-2004, 10:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by huggy87:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Osirisx9:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by huggy87:
If the P-63 is so great, why did the Americans not keep any for themselves? They gave about 4000 to the soviets and I don't think the Ami's ever used them operationally (correct me if I am wrong).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now you know that us Americans have always been told that we have the best buttered bread, best water, best food, best woman,best economy, best airforce, best army, best government, best cars, best houses, best land, and the best country. Now what makes you think that anything will be different when it comes down to who has the best opinions. We Americans are always right and dont ever foreget that again. Especially when us americans talk about the P-63. Who cares what anyone elses opinion is? Hmmmn

Osiris_X9<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now, no need to get snooty osiris. My point is simply that it is a beloved plane in this forum. If it was so great in real life, you would think the people who built it (read, americans) would actually want to use it themselves.

Oh, and btw, I prefer european bread and my cars are both Japanese. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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04-29-2004, 10:17 AM
P-38 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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lbhskier37
04-29-2004, 10:21 AM
I fear wellflown P-38s more than anything. P-51s can be taken out with one burst, same with P40s. P47s are tougher, but can be easily outturned. The P-38L is the best all around plane in the game. If I could only fly one plane, and this was a real war, I would definitly pick the lightning. Eventhough it is supposed "undermodeled" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

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Heavy_Weather
04-29-2004, 10:56 AM
pony for sure http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Korolov
04-29-2004, 11:14 AM
Regarding not using the P-63 operationally - it's range was too short for the USAAF. It couldn't make the long range runs in the pacific or the long range escorts in the ETO.

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Osirisx9
04-29-2004, 12:11 PM
I drive two Japanees cars...Will buy only Japanees and Wifey is from the caribean. Guess I'm one American with a taste for the exotic.

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WOLFMondo
04-29-2004, 01:07 PM
More to the point, theres not a US plane I don't like.

If I had to pick one it would be the P51C or D. Sound anglo-US engineering. Makes you wonder why they never chucked in a couple of merlins in the P38.

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tttiger
04-29-2004, 02:28 PM
It's a close call between the Jug and the Pony but I have to go with the P-47. Eight guns and takes lots of hits. By comparison, the P-51 is very fragile even if it is more agile. And the firepower is too limited (unless they fix the .50s) for my lousy gunnery http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. But I like both.

Early war, the Brewster Buffalo (why wasn't that a choice?). Most Navy pilots liked flying it better than the Wildcat but it had problems with carrier landings (the very complicated landing gear kept breaking while the hand cranked -- like the Rata -- gear in the Wildcat was GI-proof) and they went with the Grumman. And gave the remaining Buffs to the Marines as a shore-based fighter. It does very well against the A6M2.

The P-40 is okay in the Pacific until 1943 but in RL the 109Fs clobbered them in North Africa.

The P-39 is a POS. I admire those who fly it well but it really was an inferior plane.

The P-63 is a big improvement but it never flew in combat in the USAAF. Obviously, lots of you like it but all the off line campaigns I'm now flying are US and UK and there's no place for it.

Finally, the P-38. As in real life, it's good in the Pacific but not anything special in Europe. Excellent CAS plane but a very average fighter.

Short answer: P-47 with the P-51 a close second. Early war: Brewster Buffalo (but only in US, UK or Dutch colors http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

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Tank50
04-29-2004, 02:37 PM
P-63! Now they can't run away!

mortoma
04-29-2004, 02:59 PM
For all around doing everything, nothing compares to the Jug!! In the pure fighter role, I'd take any of the P-51s or the King Cobra. One good thing about the King is she has enough of an edge against most comers that she can make up for an otherwise bad-flying day. Her sheer brute power and handling can compensate for your shortcomings
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that make it a noob plane?? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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04-29-2004, 02:59 PM
Nice sig man!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I've got the same pic in my archives!!!

down to bissiness...
I like the 39 Q-1 best of all the us planes.
it's got the cannon and many .50s. plus if it's you handel it right it'll out manuver a 51 or come close enough that you can get some really good shots in. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TAGERT.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Osirisx9:
Sry I left out the P-40, Just wasn't any more room but your voice opinion about this bird too. My choice is for the P-63. It took me weeks to master that damn cannon. No german bird can catch it on the deck, It climbs like a bat out of hell, and it turns pretty damn well once you master the freaky stall behavior. The real treat is that cannon after you master it. I understand that it might get some tweaking in the DM because the Luftwhinners are upset that their 108s cant tear the wings off the thing or it wont catch on fire. But that is Ok with me, but beware the new cannon that the bird is getting in the patch will make the changes in the DM a non issue. Hmmnn 37mm explosive shells instead of the armor peircing sounds sooooooo good. Instead of taking 3 hits to bring down a 190, now it will take just one.

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mortoma
04-29-2004, 03:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by huggy87:
If the P-63 is so great, why did the Americans not keep any for themselves? They gave about 4000 to the soviets and I don't think the Ami's ever used them operationally (correct me if I am wrong).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Supposedly it wasn't needed since they had plenty of P-51s, which also had the long range and high altitude abilities needed for strategic escort. The P-63 was recognized as a fine fighter by top brass in the war dept. but they didn't need a short-range tactical plane in the U.S. arsenal to win the war. The Soviets did need tactical planes, so they worked out a deal with them.

Kriebelerelf
04-29-2004, 03:07 PM
i read some where that during flight testing they had a more powerful engine installed but the makers ot the allison needed the bussiness so the government went with the allison because it was cheaper and the field men knew how to work on it with the more that abundant parts supply. I'll see if i can find some solid proof of this.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
More to the point, theres not a US plane I don't like.

If I had to pick one it would be the P51C or D. Sound anglo-US engineering. Makes you wonder why they never chucked in a couple of merlins in the P38.

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Huckebein_UK
04-29-2004, 03:33 PM
Err, sorry Tiger - p'raps you can enlighten me further: I heard that the only theatre where the Brewster was at all successful was Finland - it got slaughtered by the Japanese due to poor speed, climb-rate and gun-reliability as far as I knew. I read about it in a book called "The world's worst aircraft" (which also had the Fairey Battle in, but that's another story.

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Dammerung
04-29-2004, 06:38 PM
P-80 Shooting star =P

Sure, your engines kinda suck, but it's a blast to fly!
But props, P51, no contest. Dont care what anyone else says, the 6 .50s are brutal in the right spot. Can down anything if you pepper the wing enough.

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Snuffy_Hadden
04-29-2004, 07:32 PM
B-17!

Heavy's rule.

WUAF_MJ_Prop
04-29-2004, 07:47 PM
gotta say p47 D10...... looks like a pig, flies like a pig (when slow) plane poppin .50 cals, helluva bombload for re-arranging the landscape, and surprisingly, can turn nicely if done well and at hi enuff speeds http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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steiner562
04-29-2004, 07:52 PM
P-40 cause I love that old warhorse.

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Trigger_88
04-29-2004, 10:58 PM
without a duobt P-38L its fast has fire power climbs and can even turn tighter than a mustang with full flaps a brake hispano 20mm will take out a La-7 with 3 rounds http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif major structural dammage! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

tttiger
04-30-2004, 03:33 AM
Huck:

Here's more than you ever wanted to know about the Brewster Buffalo:

http://www.danford.net/buff.htm

No question, the Finns made the best use of them.

Also, no question, the British and Dutch Buffs in Southeast Asia were hammered by the Japanese. But at the start of the war in that area, the Japanese overwhelmed everything by weight of huge numbers, so that isn't much of a test. The entire British Army in Singapore surrendered without firing a shot because they were so badly outnumbered.

And the USMC Buffs at Midway were demolished by the Japanese, but, again, overwhelmed by numbers.

But that doesn't mean the Buff isn't a great early war plane. Even out the odds a bit and the Buff can play with any early war opponent. (Read the British flight tests in that link; some test pilots loved 'em, others weren't very impressed but all agreed it was better overall than the Hurricane and in roll rate better than the Spitfire. One placed them just a notch below the Zero in dogfighting, giving the Zero the edge because it had the speed to break off at will.)

I've set up a DCG Burma campaign (Spring 1942)with British and Dutch (who flew with the RAF after they lost the Dutch East Indies) flying Buffalos and the AVG flying P-40Es. The Japanese fly A6M2s, IL-4s dressed up as Betty Bombers, SU-2s dressed up as Kates, IAR-80s dressed up as Oscars, even a couple Chinese P-36s. Plenty of great skins at IL-2 skins for all of them. Kuban map is a stand-in for Burma.

I switch off between the Buffalo and the AVG P-40E and, frankly, the Buff is more effective than the P-40. It can turn fight with a Zero very well.

Give it a whirl. Great fights over Burma.

As for your research, I think I saw in a thread you mentioned you were 17 (apologies of I'm getting it wrong). That means I've had an extra 41 years on you to accumulate useless knowledge. My problem, now, is remembering any of it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Aloha & S!

ttt

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-- Chuck Yeager describing "The Best Airplane."

[This message was edited by tttiger on Fri April 30 2004 at 03:03 AM.]

masamainio
04-30-2004, 06:59 AM
Finnish Air Force had 44 Brewsters in service.

478 victories and only 23 planes lost.

Top scorers: Capt. Hans H. Wind (39), WO E. Ilmari Juutilainen (34), Maj. Jorma Karhunen (26)


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WUAF_Badsight
04-30-2004, 07:28 AM
the P-63 is a Monster

but its best used by players who are really good shots

more less experienced players will probably be more happy in the P-51 or p-39 if their choice was limited to the Polls options in a DF server

Mirtma
04-30-2004, 09:20 AM
P-39. I begin with it in original IL2, went through it's stalls and spins and I still like it. Great visibility, speed and firepower.

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gates123
04-30-2004, 09:58 AM
P-38. Its the only american plane (in this patch)that I can catch and kill 190's in, but I will admit I need to spend more time in a P-63.

http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/justin/1087/WWII/Images/Thumbs/TBf109AK.jpg
Did anyone see that or was it just me?

Huckebein_UK
04-30-2004, 10:06 AM
Ok Tiger, I have no option but to submit to your greater experience, but (I hope) I should surprise you with the extent of my knowledge - I'm a big reader, and I'm not the sort to 'make up' stuff if I don't know what I'm on about; I can admit when I'm wrong, (as I'm doing now).

I'll read that site with interest, thanks.

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tttiger
04-30-2004, 10:53 AM
LOL Huck, I wasn't trying sounding to sound superior. Far from it. I've just wasted more time on stuff like this than you have (yet) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S!

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Huckebein_UK
04-30-2004, 11:15 AM
ok cool mate. Oh, and I'm 18. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Osirisx9
04-30-2004, 01:32 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by gates123:
P-38. Its the only american plane (in this patch)that I can catch and kill 190's in, but I will admit I need to spend more time in a P-63.

That P-63 will pass the P-38 chasing the 190 and shoot down the 190 and then beat the Pissed off pilot in the p-38 back to base. The P-38 is a slow slug compared to the P-63

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