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xTHRUDx
05-31-2004, 05:45 PM
If a hollywood studio exec game to you and said,
"will give you a budget of X$ (x = enough to make the film you want) to go make a WW2 aviation story, now go make it"
what story would you tell?
a story based on a battle/mission? like Ploiesti or Marianas turkey shoot?
a story based on person or squadron? like Pappy or Yeager, Tuskegee, Black Sheep.

For me it would be the Yamamoto P-38 intercept. There is also another story of a blact cat PBY that would make a good film, but i'd have dig thru my library to find it.

xTHRUDx
05-31-2004, 05:45 PM
If a hollywood studio exec game to you and said,
"will give you a budget of X$ (x = enough to make the film you want) to go make a WW2 aviation story, now go make it"
what story would you tell?
a story based on a battle/mission? like Ploiesti or Marianas turkey shoot?
a story based on person or squadron? like Pappy or Yeager, Tuskegee, Black Sheep.

For me it would be the Yamamoto P-38 intercept. There is also another story of a blact cat PBY that would make a good film, but i'd have dig thru my library to find it.

NegativeGee
05-31-2004, 06:30 PM
So many possibilites!

I think a biopic of Erich Hartmann following his career with the WW2 Luftwaffe, and using it as a window to portray the air war in the East.

I've got the opening scene figured out already. It would follow a jet of the post war luftwaffe (F-104? I cannot remember what aircraft he flew after he joined the post war Luftwaffe) doing a bit of flying and then coming into land. The pilot would get out the aircraft and a member of the ground crew would call him by name - Hartmann, and the camera would fix on his name bar on his flight suit. The scene would then cut to 1940 germany where his name is called again, although this time it is a person (postman/wife?) with a letter for him (show name on letter). when he opens his letter it is informing him to report to Air Force Military Training Regiment 10 at Neukuhren where he began his flight training.

And so on from there http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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PBNA-Boosher
05-31-2004, 06:47 PM
Me? Mapletiger knows full well what I'd do!

I'd do a biographical piece on these pilots:

Lilya Litvyak
Valeriia Xomayakova
Nadia Popova
Natalya Myeklin
Katerina Budanova

etcetera! etcetera!.... etcetera!

One 2 hour bio/documentary for each of the Female VVS pilots I know and learn about.

I'd spend a lifetime doing it if I had to. These women need to recieve the recognition they rightfully deserve.

LEXX_Luthor
05-31-2004, 07:12 PM
Malcolm McDowell (who played the cleric "Yottskry" in season 1 LEXX movie Gigashadow), was originally supposed to play in Night Witches about the U~2 pilotesses. But that movie was cancelled recently I believe. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif


Kelly's Heroes is playing right now, and so I would have to do something like that but with aircrew flying behind enemy lines to pick up the gold, and then fly to Switzerland, avoiding both Luftwaffe and USAAF. At some point they would be forced to make a deal with a Luftwaffe Great Ace, you know, a Deal deal, maybe the guy's a Republican, to bomb the bank open wide. But you just can't get the kind of deep story you can get with infantry movie.



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WereSnowleopard
05-31-2004, 09:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NegativeGee:
So many possibilites!

I think a biopic of Erich Hartmann following his career with the WW2 Luftwaffe, and using it as a window to portray the air war in the East.

I've got the opening scene figured out already. It would follow a jet of the post war luftwaffe (F-104? I cannot remember what aircraft he flew after he joined the post war Luftwaffe) doing a bit of flying and then coming into land. The pilot would get out the aircraft and a member of the ground crew would call him by name - Hartmann, and the camera would fix on his name bar on his flight suit. The scene would then cut to 1940 germany where his name is called again, although this time it is a person (postman/wife?) with a letter for him (show name on letter). when he opens his letter it is informing him to report to Air Force Military Training Regiment 10 at Neukuhren where he began his flight training.

And so on from there http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ditto! Also Would like make movie with start in Spanish civil war with two leading actors Werner M¶lders amd Adolf Galland even possible with Ernst Udet and more...Oh too many special LW pilots in that story. Also we won't forget some both side of minor counties air forces. Ummmm I guess FAF will be great one too! Did Finnish already made that movie? That's enough let other one take turn and tell what aviation movie they want to product story.

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WereSnowleopard
05-31-2004, 09:31 PM
Oh I forget one...Hans-Joachim Marseille! Most amazing story!

xTHRUDx
05-31-2004, 09:48 PM
good stuff guys, keep more coming

JorBR
05-31-2004, 09:53 PM
So many possibilities! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Just three of them:

1 - Hiroyoshi Nishizawa History: Japanese Navy pilot; possibly 86 victories; knowed as "The Devil" and highly respected by Saburo Sakai; tough, very japanese-like character; died 26 october 1944 while a passenger in a bomber; from-glory-to-the-beggining-of-defeat style.

2 - Heinz Bar History: flew from the first day of the war to the last; fought and scored on every front, from Poland and France, to the English Channel, to Russia, to North Africa, to the Mediterranean, and back to the Defense of the Reich; flew approx. 1000 missions over the course of his Luftwaffe career; shot down a total of 18 times; took to his parachute four times, and made 14 belly landings; 220 victories, 96 in the East, 45 in North Africa and 21 four engine bombers, 16 with the Me-262; very unmilitary and undisciplined character; nice-guy-fighting-for-the-wrong-side style.

3 - "Half a Wing Three Engines and a Prayer": from the book, directed by Peter Jackson; Twelve-O´clock-High style, nothing like Memphis Belle for God´s sake!

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heywooood
05-31-2004, 09:53 PM
There are soooo many -

I would do a film on Benjamin O.Davis
from the cradle to the grave this man was the epitome of strength and honor. A great pilot with a long and distinguished career. First flying for the RAF in 1940 and then going on to lead the Tuskeegee Airmen to their sterling record..

Or the Jimmy Doolittle story.. I would love to see a film featuring the golden age of flight air racers.. The Thompson Trophy and Schneider Cup winners in the mid 30's and leading up to the attack on Pearl and then the planning and preparation for the reprisal raid on Tokyo by Doolittle.

These would be my choices because I am an American and these are to my mind (and POV)the most important stories to tell and they need to be told accurately!!!

rick_475
05-31-2004, 10:17 PM
Without any doubt, a movie about the life and career of Hans-Joachim Marseille

310th Falcon
05-31-2004, 10:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> It would follow a jet of the post war luftwaffe (F-104? I cannot remember what aircraft he flew after he joined the post war Luftwaffe) doing a bit of flying and then coming into land. The pilot would get out the aircraft and a member of the ground crew would call him by name - Hartmann, and the camera would fix on his name bar on his flight suit. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He flew the F-86 Sabre.

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Dunkelgrun
06-01-2004, 12:34 AM
'The Hardest Day' based on the book by Alfred Price. It encapsulates the Battle of Britain through the events of August 18th 1940.
To quote: 'On that day the war in the air reached its peak. The German Luftwaffe mounted three separate attacks on British fighter airfields and more aircraft were lost to both sides than on any other day.'
It could be accurately portrayed from the viewpoint of both sides, as long as I was allowed to cast actors in their late teens and early twenties as the aircrew. No Tom Cruise, in fact no Hollywood stars at all. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Cheers!

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ELEM
06-01-2004, 01:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
Me? Mapletiger knows full well what I'd do!

I'd do a biographical piece on these pilots:

Lilya Litvyak
Valeriia Xomayakova
Nadia Popova
Natalya Myeklin
Katerina Budanova

etcetera! etcetera!.... etcetera!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes! The Nightwitches would have been my choice too. The planned film, with Malcolm McDowell seems to have gone every quite. Filming hasn't even started yet, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.

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PikeBishop
06-01-2004, 01:49 AM
I would make a film leading up toand ending with "The battle of the Bay"
This was where one Short Sunderland took on 8 JU88's and got away with it!
My second would be the career of William Barker, ending with his single handed fight against a total of 62 fokker D7's and he still survived though badly wounded. (He must have had invlnerability at least partially switched on).

Best regards,

SLP
P.S. The Nishizawa story would be my third choice.

Ankanor
06-01-2004, 03:57 AM
I would make a movie about the Midway. It will include everything, from the very beginning, with a flashback to PH disaster, Yamamoto saying to the rest of the high ranks "we need to destroy the american fleet in one big battle" then to the americans preparing, with John Waldron saying to his squadron "If there is one plane left...", the brevity of the pilots of both sides, strong friendship among the pilots, no love story, lots of Special effects(Yorktown attack), ending with Yamamoto saying something of the sort: "This is the beginning of our end. Now it`s a matter of time..."

O, how I want to hold you,
To feel your breath
And hear your laughter in my ears.
To look into your eyes
And see myself in there.
Caress you with my lips.
To hold your hands in mine
And find the hidden smile in your dimple
That makes you irresistible
And stops the breathing in my chest.
To be with you when you are weeping,
To wipe away the tears and take away the sorrow.
To watch you while you are sleeping
Like there is no tomorrow.

And with a tender kiss to wake you up.

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Beirut
06-01-2004, 04:38 AM
I would want to see a movie made about the air assault and invasion of Crete.

Those Germans had balls the size of mountains to pull that off.

"Official Lancaster whiner"

Franzen
06-01-2004, 05:32 AM
Would like to see a movie that describes in detail the rescue of Mussilini(or however it's spelt). Really seems to be an interesting story.

Fritz Franzen

Capt.LoneRanger
06-01-2004, 05:43 AM
Something about the AVG, maybe - just because I love P40s http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I like the Movies BattleOfBritain, Midway and ToraToraTora. But these are allready done and what we see from the remakes nowadays, I'd rather like to do something the "EnemyAtTheGates" style, with 2 aces flying missions and finally meeting in head-to-head engagement, maybe even one of the fights ending in a draw? (Just to do something anti-Hollywood-style http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif )

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jensenpark
06-01-2004, 05:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NegativeGee:
So many possibilites!

I think a biopic of Erich Hartmann following his career with the WW2 Luftwaffe, and using it as a window to portray the air war in the East.

I've got the opening scene figured out already. It would follow a jet of the post war luftwaffe (F-104? I cannot remember what aircraft he flew after he joined the post war Luftwaffe) doing a bit of flying and then coming into land. The pilot would get out the aircraft and a member of the ground crew would call him by name - Hartmann, and the camera would fix on his name bar on his flight suit. The scene would then cut to 1940 germany where his name is called again, although this time it is a person (postman/wife?) with a letter for him (show name on letter). when he opens his letter it is informing him to report to Air Force Military Training Regiment 10 at Neukuhren where he began his flight training.

And so on from there http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Yea, just think...Hollywood making a Hartmann movie...the twits would hire Tom Cruise to play him. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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ploughman
06-01-2004, 06:00 AM
Yeah, the story of Crete would make a great film. From the German Paras being slaughtered as they landed to the evacuation of Commonwealth troops whilst under massive air-attack by Nazi bombers. "It takes 3 years to build a ship, 300 years to build a tradition," said Cunningham as he sent his ships back to rescue more troops despite terrible losses. The scale of it would be awesome.

But the one I would really like to see might actually be made. Miramax have bought the film rights to a book about the siege of Malta. The Hollywood angle might be the story of Operation Pedestal, a desperate attempt to resupply the beleaguered island on the verge of surrender. The fast American tanker SS Ohio was part of the convoy that was subjected to intense air and naval attack. When she arrived in Valetta, torpedoed, lashed between two RN ships, she had two crashed enemy aircraft on her decks. Testement to the intensity of the combat she had only just survived. The operation cost 2 cruisers, an aircraft carrier, two destroyers and 9 merchant ships, with many others damaged. One ship arrived with its bow blown off. But what go through was enough to stave off Malta's surrender and keep her fighting astride Axis supply lines to North Africa. Truely the stuff of legend.

Link to a brief history of Pedestal (http://www.usmm.org/malta.html)

AWL_Spinner
06-01-2004, 07:22 AM
Pedestal was the operation that gets several chapters in (I think, I've read several recently) Geoffrey Wellum's fantastic book "First Light". He mentions the Ohio too. It was vital it reach port. Surely one of the most finely balanced operations of the war.

He describes how they flew Spitfires off the deck of one of the carriers just as the convoy came under heavy attack. They had wooden wedges stuck in the flaps to get the required deflection for takeoff (the Spitfire carrier was an older design built for biplanes). They also had their ammo boxes filled with cigarattes for the troops on Malta. Plenty of ammo there, but no cigarettes.

Would make a cracking movie as there's so much going on and at least four nations involved.

For me though, I'd like to see.... something around D-Day. There are so many celebrated and detailed accounts of the land assault but I'd love to know more about air operations. I know there was heavy level bombing inland, but what was the extent of fighter-bomber attacks on coastal defences? Surely Typhoons and Jugs would have been useful against the gun emplacements? Were most of the coastal RAF and USAAF fighter squadrons involved in air cover? Was there heavy Luftwaffe involvement? Were there paratroop/resistance attacks on German airfields in Normandy before the landings?

etc. etc.

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budvar62
06-01-2004, 09:26 AM
Having just read Fortress Malta I have to agree with the suggestions about this one - the most bombed place on Earth at one point! Also, from us humble game jockeys point of view what a story - literally starting with Gladiators, and at times being down to 3 aircraft to defend the island! And you've got Warby - the most valuable PR pilot of that phase of the war - he once jumped straight back into an armed spit and immediately flew back to shoot up the AA battery that had had the audacity to shoot at his PR spit...

However, I'd also have to fund a film about the Typhoon squadrons operating for the TAR fromm D Day onwards - if you haven't clocked this website it's worth a go:

http://www.197typhoon.org.uk/crew_byrne.htm

Upto 4 sorties a day, ultra low level pin-point bombing (some of the planes were not converted to rockets), target rich environments in the Falaise Gap - if they ever did it right it would be awesome. If I had the money I'd make sure they did too!

Well, that's two films already... better quit now http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

KarayaEine
06-01-2004, 11:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xTHRUDx:
If a hollywood studio exec game to you and said,
"will give you a budget of X$ (x = enough to make the film you want) to go make a WW2 aviation story, now go make it"
what story would you tell?
a story based on a battle/mission? like Ploiesti or Marianas turkey shoot?
a story based on person or squadron? like Pappy or Yeager, Tuskegee, Black Sheep.

For me it would be the Yamamoto P-38 intercept. There is also another story of a blact cat PBY that would make a good film, but i'd have dig thru my library to find it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

An ACCURATE version of 'Enemy at the Gates' but told from the perspective of the Luftwaffe. A deperate battle fought against overwhelming odds.

Johann

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LuftLuver
06-01-2004, 11:31 AM
I would do "The Lady Be Good." (http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/history/wwii/lbg.htm) Would be one heck of a difficult screenplay, but perhaps a time lapse then and now like was used in Titanic.

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JJaguar
06-01-2004, 11:54 AM
I don't know if this counts since it's not a shoot-em-up action movie, but I've always wanted to see a movie based on the story of the Pacific Clipper.

The Pacific Clipper was a Pan Am flying boat that was in the air enroute to New Zealand from Hawaii when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. Given the order to get home by any means necessary, the Pacific Clipper and it's crew embarked on an incredible adventure. Cut off from Hawaii by the Japanese Navy, they flew west around the world, becoming the first commercial airliner to circumnavigate the globe. They arrived in New York about a month later after overcoming a lack of supplies, engine failures, no spare parts, and no support facilities. They were even almost shout down. This was also at a time when there were no established airways or navaids to follow. Done right, this would make a great, epic adventure movie.

csThor
06-01-2004, 11:55 AM
Definitely something "dark" and depressive. A film along the lines of "Stalingrad" (the german movie) but featuring some nameless pilots in Reich Defense in 1944. Basically a film without happy end, maybe even the death of the main character. No big success, young pilots not surviving more than 5 missions, death of friends etc ... Something to capture the hopeless mood of this time.

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boxmike
06-01-2004, 12:49 PM
Ok, lessee, theres these 2 childhood friends,other goes to fly Eagles and other robs his girlie and they meet in middle of Pacific...Where's everyone goin?? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif
Nuff said,
1. 8th AF runs against ball bearings 1943, pick August or October(Black Thursday?)
2. Epic Malta, 1940-42
3. Japanese pilot's career at Pacific 1941-

JorBR
06-01-2004, 02:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dunkelgrun:
'The Hardest Day' based on the book by Alfred Price. It encapsulates the Battle of Britain through the events of August 18th 1940.
To quote: 'On that day the war in the air reached its peak. The German Luftwaffe mounted three separate attacks on British fighter airfields and more aircraft were lost to both sides than on any other day.'
It could be accurately portrayed from the viewpoint of both sides, as long as I was allowed to cast actors in their late teens and early twenties as the aircrew. No Tom Cruise, in fact no Hollywood stars at all. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Cheers!

Dunkelgrun aka 242Sqn_Cat<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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WereSnowleopard
06-01-2004, 03:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dunkelgrun:
'The Hardest Day' based on the book by Alfred Price. It encapsulates the Battle of Britain through the events of August 18th 1940.
To quote: 'On that day the war in the air reached its peak. The German Luftwaffe mounted three separate attacks on British fighter airfields and more aircraft were lost to both sides than on any other day.'
It could be accurately portrayed from the viewpoint of both sides, as long as I was allowed to cast actors in their late teens and early twenties as the aircrew. No Tom Cruise, in fact no Hollywood stars at all. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Cheers!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would like to see European actors/actress as European pilots/crews. I had enough with Hollywwod stuff. Also I may like to have European productors/film support crews too.

Cheers
Snowleopard

ploughman
06-02-2004, 12:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I would do "The Lady Be Good." Would be one heck of a difficult screenplay, but perhaps a time lapse then and now like was used in Titanic.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I remember seeing a film years ago about a B-24 lost deep in the desert. The crew don't know they're dead and just hang around the aircraft, playing base-ball and shooting craps and waiting to be rescued. Eventually a team arrives to recover the bodies and personal effects etc., and slowly it dawns on the crew that they've been dead for years and they have to come to terms with their own passing. I can't remember the name of the bomber, but I would not be suprised it "The Lady Be Good" wasn't the inspiration for this slightly eccentric but quite moving film.

Tully__
06-02-2004, 12:23 PM
The C-47 supply line accross the Himalayas. There's bound to be some drama there.

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horseback
06-02-2004, 12:24 PM
Film the book "Goodbye Mickey Mouse" by Len Deighton. Good read, technically accurate description of average USAAF fighter group in the UK, early '44.

No glorification, there's only one ace in the story, and he is an all too human guy in his early twenties. Most of the guys in the story are average pilots, just trying to get the jobs done and their butts home in one piece, with the certain knowledge that statistically, a substantial percentage of them wouldn't.

A good showcase for an ensemble cast, assuming that it isn't overpopulated by thirty-plus year old guys who never looked twenty two.

cheers

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Xnomad
06-02-2004, 03:57 PM
Where is the worlds biggest film industry located? It's Bollywood I tell you! Get the Indians to make a movie for you. You'll have difficulty making it without lots of songs and dancing.

No but seriously I'd love to see the defence of the Reich portrayed as realistically as possible, pictures from inside a bf 109 cockpit as the pilot attacks a "pulk" of B-17's from head on etc. and then gets chased to the deck by the defending Mustangs.

The second post on this thread about Hartmann sounds really good but I fear if they made a film about him 3/4 of it would be him as a POW ala "Papillion", really depressing. It would be nice to get his name out to the public though as the average person has never heard of him.

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PraetorHonoris
06-02-2004, 04:08 PM
A film about the nightfighters would be great.

Imaging the angry defenders of the burning cities, advancing in the dark, led by the ground control.

Especially the light effects could be amazing!

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Bearcat99
06-02-2004, 05:19 PM
Tough Question... so many... Id love to see another Tuskegee Airmen movie (natch... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif)
A story about the Night Witches would be awesome too...
Id like to see a movie about Chenault and his boys....

Id also love to see somthing about the Aztec Eagles Squadron..

Theres a book about the Battle of Kursk.. called The Last Citadel.. by David Robbins.. I havent started it yet.. it is semi historical. I like the historical accuracy more but sometimes even a good work of fiction if done right can be just as good as historical fact.. look at Dark Blue World.

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nickdanger3
06-02-2004, 05:29 PM
The Story of Douglas Bader - wow - what a guy !

KarayaEine
06-02-2004, 09:06 PM
I'm reading 'The Last Citadel' right now. Part of the story revolves around the Night Witches.

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crazyivan1970
06-02-2004, 09:23 PM
Story based on memoirs of IL-2 pilot Lyadskiy, something i translated a while back.

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Freefalldart
06-03-2004, 04:58 AM
What about something like "once upon a time there was a young german pilot who first saw combat on Spanish Civil War and gradually sees how its fatherland falls while he fights against a growing horde of enemies without the hope of winning"?
Put a bitter end and, voila!.

It could be a 12 hours trilogy with extended version and so on...

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mentalFlaws
06-03-2004, 05:37 AM
I would simply do a film that portrayed the tragic story of those luftwaffe pilots who were not Nazi'z but compelled to fight by a sense of duty to their service and thier country regardless of the fact that the individual responsible for throwing them into the war was a complete and certifiable zulu nutcase.
Similar to the plight of our troops in Iraq.