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Cyriccube
02-28-2017, 03:07 AM
Sorry but...um...It says Vikings Won 24-21-whatever Samurai was...yet the faction battle field shows 21-18-21

where Knights and VIkings were tied? Hold the **** up and say what the ****? Thats a solid tie and we were just thrown under the bus!? And this isn't some it ended halfway through the round ******** what the actual **** is this?


ALSO, what kind of ****ty rewards are these? We played 15 Days, half a month, throwing resources and fighting hard through crappy connections to get ****ed over by what seems to be some ******** and only get a crappy amount of scavange boxs that people can get with one day of light play!? Are you ****ing kidding me Ubisoft? You have your players deal with ****ty imbalances, DOWNRIGHT HORRIBLE CONNECTION QUALITY, Very little developer or company response and effort put into fixing these problems. And now you shove a glaringly obvious one in everyones face and give us crappy change for everything we've put up with these 15 days since Launch.

What. The. Actual. ****.

Takanoshiden
02-28-2017, 03:13 AM
there was a error somewhere because as i was fightign for the vikings we were going to be at 24 i kept count very closely

MyNameIsMicheal
02-28-2017, 03:33 AM
Where do i go to claim the rewards?

CarnivalLaw
02-28-2017, 03:34 AM
Well said. I'm having some Destiny deja vu. Bungie's fleecing of the Community was, and still IS, despicable. Ubisoft is behaving no better.

Exaffect
02-28-2017, 03:37 AM
The faction war stuff is hugely shallow and disappointing. I don't even bother with my assets. It's a waste of time.

Gray360UK
02-28-2017, 03:37 AM
With about an hour to go it was going to be a tie.
Then it changed with roughly 30 minutes to go, to this:

https://i.imgsafe.org/4debded92b.png

Not sure why Round 2 has started with the numbers it has, don't quite know how that part is figured out.

m3gas_
02-28-2017, 03:45 AM
ALSO, what kind of ****ty rewards are these? We played 15 Days, half a month, throwing resources and fighting hard through crappy connections to get ****ed over by what seems to be some ******** and only get a crappy amount of scavange boxs that people can get with one day of light play!? Are you ****ing kidding me Ubisoft? You have your players deal with ****ty imbalances, DOWNRIGHT HORRIBLE CONNECTION QUALITY, Very little developer or company response and effort put into fixing these problems. And now you shove a glaringly obvious one in everyones face and give us crappy change for everything we've put up with these 15 days since Launch.

What. The. Actual. ****.

You do realise that they could've just skipped the entire "factions war" thingy and no one would've bat an eye, just play the game, right buddy?? Also 5 to maybe 10% of the player base actually bothers to use assets, so it's besically "the faction that completes the most matches wins". Some "war", huh? So how can you even DARE complaining that they actually gave you a random reward just for playing the game?!! And it's not even a Season's end reward, just a random reward, which they could've also just skipped and no one would've cared... So just shut the F up and stop making a complete fool of yourself. Play the game. Try to enjoy. Peace!!

Aidames
02-28-2017, 03:51 AM
I think it was 26 for Vikings, 24 or 25 for Knights, and 10 or 9 for Samurai.

If you don't want the crates, you can pass them to me as 2nd place got squat. Thx mate! :)

Edit: Apparently I should've gotten 2 boxes, but nothing on my account yet...
Edit 2: I had to relog for the boxes to be credited, yay!

CoyoteXStarrk
02-28-2017, 03:51 AM
You are looking at the faction score AFTER the round reset.



We won fair and square. Better luck next round :)

Gray360UK
02-28-2017, 03:53 AM
I think it was 26 for Vikings, 24 or 25 for Knights, and 10 or 9 for Samurai.



https://i.imgsafe.org/4da74e73ad.png

Gray360UK
02-28-2017, 03:55 AM
You are looking at the faction score AFTER the round reset.



We won fair and square. Better luck next round :)

You actually did and I'm pretty happy that there's no doubt about that this time (apart from in the minds of a few tin foil hat people).

A good solid win with no last minute rule changes / no controversy is exactly what we needed.

Even if it was the filthy heathen Vikings that won. I still blame the Samurai :p

Kaotic_CipherTV
02-28-2017, 03:57 AM
You actually did and I'm pretty happy that there's no doubt about that this time (apart from in the minds of a few tin foil hat people).

A good solid win with no last minute rule changes / no controversy is exactly what we needed.

Even if it was the filthy heathen Vikings that won. I still blame the Samurai :p

I still think its weird that they would calculate the assets deployed and not have that factor in. Technically the samurai should be in second by 1% more assets. Not salty just saying.

Same with the deployed asset counts per player. Why have a number value associated with how much a player puts out if it literally means nothing.

PackingMoney
02-28-2017, 03:59 AM
I still think its weird that they would calculate the assets deployed and not have that factor in. Technically the samurai should be in second by 1% more assets. Not salty just saying.

Same with the deployed asset counts per player. Why have a number value associated with how much a player puts out if it literally means nothing.

I second this. I feel used xD (jk).

Kashrafall
02-28-2017, 04:01 AM
I still think its weird that they would calculate the assets deployed and not have that factor in. Technically the samurai should be in second by 1% more assets. Not salty just saying.

Same with the deployed asset counts per player. Why have a number value associated with how much a player puts out if it literally means nothing.

To show you how much you contributed to the war. That's pretty much all it is for.

Gray360UK
02-28-2017, 04:02 AM
I still think its weird that they would calculate the assets deployed and not have that factor in. Technically the samurai should be in second by 1% more assets. Not salty just saying.

Same with the deployed asset counts per player. Why have a number value associated with how much a player puts out if it literally means nothing.

Now that they are sticking to Territories controlled = winner it does mean a lot and it does make sense.
Not to rub it in, but the fact the Samurai deployed more assets than the Knights means they deployed them in the wrong places.
Someone did a really basic drawing to explain it a while back.
Basically even if you put a million assets into one territory, you'll win that one, but only that one.
It's important to put them where they will gain you the most ground, important not to over-attack or over-defend (once it's yours, further assets are wasted).
You can see then that asset totals mean nothing, it's where you place them.

Gray360UK
02-28-2017, 04:05 AM
To show you how much you contributed to the war. That's pretty much all it is for.

Not even that really, if you put all your assets into a territory that was already yours, on say 51%, and you boosted it up to 53%, you didn't really help with anything.
It was already yours anyway.
This is where the tactical allocation of assets comes in.
Okay you made it harder for it be taken back, but who says anyone even tried?
Lot of elements at play.

Kaotic_CipherTV
02-28-2017, 04:09 AM
Now that they are sticking to Territories controlled = winner it does mean a lot and it does make sense.
Not to rub it in, but the fact the Samurai deployed more assets than the Knights means they deployed them in the wrong places.
Someone did a really basic drawing to explain it a while back.
Basically even if you put a million assets into one territory, you'll win that one, but only that one.
It's important to put them where they will gain you the most ground, important not to over-attack or over-defend (once it's yours, further assets are wasted).
You can see then that asset totals mean nothing, it's where you place them.

Not really though, since only the last day of turns matter. I understand what you are saying but in reality you could say that my faction only put out 10% assets while the others 40% or more and still win the round. In no real scenario should someone win a war by simply not participating until the last day.

Gray360UK
02-28-2017, 04:21 AM
Not really though, since only the last day of turns matter. I understand what you are saying but in reality you could say that my faction only put out 10% assets while the others 40% or more and still win the round. In no real scenario should someone win a war by simply not participating until the last day.

Yeah this is true, too much is decided at the end regardless of what went before.

Ausweisen
02-28-2017, 04:26 AM
I'm sorry is that a KNIGHT that is *****ing? Pretty sure SAMURAI had everyone beat but thanks to that NAT red **** we got ****ed. Most Samurai are from overseas and play when it's night in America. That huge buffer we had between the two factions since they like to double team us was what kept us ahead. So please...cry again about how your faction lost. Let them take this round. The rest of them belong to Samurai....I'll make you a big sandbox, though. That way it'll still feel like home.

Aidames
02-28-2017, 04:35 AM
Yeah this is true, too much is decided at the end regardless of what went before.

I'm sure the devs will implement extra rewards later on, for personal assets. What I would find likely is 1 steel for every 500-1000 assets. That way most people would get another scavenger crate worth of steel. Well, depending on how much you play.

For Knights though, I would totally settle for some better ornaments. Especially for the Conqueror. :)

buff_Nobushi
02-28-2017, 04:49 AM
Is it just me, or are way less Samurai active in the "last hours" of the faction war? If yes, ****.
How is the Samurai Faction supposed to win one round or something then? How, if only the last turn matters and, what do I know, 60% of all Samurai are sleeping?
The Faction War is overall somewhat..."bad", but that's nothing new.

Nomir2016
02-28-2017, 06:41 AM
Faction war is fake anyway.

buff_Nobushi
02-28-2017, 05:43 PM
Faction war is fake anyway.

The rewards aren't.

FramboisMan
02-28-2017, 06:14 PM
Is it just me, or are way less Samurai active in the "last hours" of the faction war? If yes, ****.
How is the Samurai Faction supposed to win one round or something then? How, if only the last turn matters and, what do I know, 60% of all Samurai are sleeping?
The Faction War is overall somewhat..."bad", but that's nothing new.

This is also a concern of mine. Consistently playing between 9PM & 3AM PST, I see that is when we make progress, up until about 6 am. During the actual day, namely the later afternoon, is when Samurai seem to not be there. I know I was just leaving an 11 hour shift at the time of the round closure. Will the rounds always end at around 6PM PST, 9PM EST?

Here's another thing that leaves me curious...The game launched at 12 AM EST & 9PM PST. If you have 6 hour turns & 57 turns that makes 342 Hours in a round, 14.25 days. If Turn one ended at 6AM EST, then turn 57, the final turn should have ended at 6AM EST. (Removing the 6 hours of playtime from the first turn, the end of turns range is 14 days flat.) Here, look at this table I drew up (isn't copying over from excel, not going to reformat into html, sorry!):




Turns Knights Vikings Samurai Turn ends(EST)
1 17 15 28 6AM
2 24 15 21
3 24 18 18
4 26 24 10
5 25 19 16 6AM
6 15 22 23
7 17 28 15
8 15 34 11
9 14 36 10 6AM
10 19 28 13
11 17 22 21
12 17 29 14
13 18 23 19 6AM
14 15 28 17
15 21 26 13
16 27 17 16
17 20 24 16 6AM
18 17 22 21
19 18 21 21
20 21 15 24
21 18 24 18 6AM
22 12 30 18
23 18 31 11
24 19 24 17
25 23 17 20 6AM
26 15 19 26
27 23 14 23
28 15 17 28
29 17 17 26 6AM
30 16 12 32
31 15 18 27
32 18 25 17
33 22 16 22 6AM
34 14 23 23
35 11 26 23
36 18 27 15
37 20 18 22 6AM
38 12 19 25
39 14 15 31
40 12 21 27
41 14 14 32 6AM
42 7 20 33
43 9 28 23
44 9 35 16
45 12 28 20 6AM
46 18 21 21
47 23 22 15
48 22 16 22
49 23 10 27 6AM
50 24 15 21
51 22 22 16
52 22 29 9
53 23 23 14 6AM
54 15 30 15
55 18 23 19
56 14 27 19
57 21 24 15 6AM???
Total 1015 1266 1135
Avg. 17.80701754 22.21052632 19.9122807

(Side quip: Even if we went by average territories the Vikings still won, but we came in 2nd, GG)


SO explain why the round ended at 6PM PST (9PM EST).

The solution I ask for with round closures is rotate ending times to give everyone the opportunity to have a round close within their routine gameplay windows. This is if you are keeping round victories based off the final turn (which is really lackluster by the way.) Another option is to make victories based on average territories held throughout the round. That fits everyone's schedules.

II may just have to
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh253/jimifunguzz/deal-with-it-meme-animated.gif
And if so that's fine; just lost the motivation to grind, that's for sure.


From another post:


Isn't it 7hr rotations? not 6hrs?

Changing the end time?

Let's see...I'm actually going to compare to a calendar:

For Honor Released on 2/13/17 9PM PST / 2/14/17 at midnight EST.
Round One Ended 2/27/17 at 6PM PST / 9PM EST

Sticking with one time zone to be consistent (EST) - 13 Full 24 hour days & one 21 hour day (2/27/17 midnight - 9PM) = 333 hours.

333/7 = 47.571428571428571428571428571429 turns per round ; 7 hours doesn't cut it.

333/6 = 55.5 turns ; almost there, but something is off. at 336 hours it would fit perfectly, but wait..


OK, so it looks like we're missing 3 hours, but then again something is way off.... My original calculations were based off 14 24-hour days plus 6 hours (342 hours) , but the Faction War page (currently unavailable) shows 57 turns. That is what I did my original math off of; 57 6-hour turns adding up to 342 hours. How the f@ck did this pan out with 57 turns in 333 hours? If they were 6 hour turns, the round would have lasted 14.25 days, but only 13.875 days were in round 1.

13.875 * 24 = 333, which when divided by 57 turns comes out to turns being 5.8421052631578947368421052631579 hours long.

Now I'm starting to believe the turn time is variable. ::grabs tinfoil hat::

Pope138
02-28-2017, 06:32 PM
I'm sorry is that a KNIGHT that is *****ing? Pretty sure SAMURAI had everyone beat but thanks to that NAT red **** we got ****ed. Most Samurai are from overseas and play when it's night in America. That huge buffer we had between the two factions since they like to double team us was what kept us ahead. So please...cry again about how your faction lost. Let them take this round. The rest of them belong to Samurai....I'll make you a big sandbox, though. That way it'll still feel like home.

Where did you come across this info?

jeffparkerus
02-28-2017, 09:02 PM
:)

DJ_Masterson
02-28-2017, 09:11 PM
Is it just me, or are way less Samurai active in the "last hours" of the faction war? If yes, ****.
How is the Samurai Faction supposed to win one round or something then? How, if only the last turn matters and, what do I know, 60% of all Samurai are sleeping?

Psst.



... we're not. :C