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LeadSpitter_
07-17-2004, 06:31 PM
Im curious what versions of the p38 and p47 used the k14 gunsite. I seen many old photos from 44 that had the k14 site in the p38 and p47. I also know in the beta the p38 had the k14 site but it was removed for some reason.

Does anyone know which and what varients had them in the p38 and p47?

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LeadSpitter_
07-17-2004, 06:31 PM
Im curious what versions of the p38 and p47 used the k14 gunsite. I seen many old photos from 44 that had the k14 site in the p38 and p47. I also know in the beta the p38 had the k14 site but it was removed for some reason.

Does anyone know which and what varients had them in the p38 and p47?

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v43/leadspitter/LSIG1.gif

MEGILE
07-17-2004, 06:40 PM
The P-47D-40-RA was the first P-47 to have the new K-14 gunsight installed at the factory. It was also the first Thunderbolt to carry the new tail warning radar equipment http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The K-14 was not too popular at first, due to its mounting in the cockpit. Mounted right on top of the instrument panel, the new gun sight extended back to within inches of the pilot's face. this blocked the pilot's vision and created a serious hazard if he was forced to belly land his fighter. This problem was solved by a sergeant in the 357th Fighter Group.

Sergeant Idalo E. Auguliaro solved the problem by cutting a hoe out of the glare shield and moving the sight forward. The group's pilots were pleased with this modification and sent the specifications to the Air Corps engineering center at Wright Field in Dayton, Ohio. The engineering center rejected the improvement and ordered the 357th to place the sight back in it's original position. The Yoxford Boys ignored the order, remounted the rest of their sights in the same fashion, and shared their discovery with the rest of the Mustang equipped groups., This resulted the the North American factory retooling their assembly line to mount the gun sight as the 357th had discovered. Sergeant Auguliaro received the Bronze Star for his efforts.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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BlakJakOfSpades
07-17-2004, 10:28 PM
lol thats funny, cool story. the 357th is my fav, due in no small part to my grandpa bein one of their radio operators or somethin like that im not exactly clear on the facts. thanks for the info.

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VOL_Hans
07-17-2004, 11:12 PM
Despite the fact that I rarely [almost never] fly Allied planes, and very rarely [once for about 30 seconds] use gyro sights when I do get in a late P-51...

I think it would be a nice option to have '47s and '38's with the sight installed. It shouldn't be too difficult...We already have a P-38 panel for that configuration...

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necrobaron
07-17-2004, 11:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VOL_Hans:
Despite the fact that I rarely [almost never] fly Allied planes, and very rarely [once for about 30 seconds] use gyro sights when I do get in a late P-51...

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Isn't that a P-40 in your sig, Hans? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif


I don't know about the P-47, but I heard the K-14 was taken out of the P-38 because Gibbage couldn't prove to Oleg that it was a common modification.

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Gibbage1
07-18-2004, 12:12 AM
That is true. I have a book that said K-14's were in L series standard and had 1 pic of a P-38 with a K-14 but most referances said it did NOT have the K-14 because the P-51's were using them all.

Flying_Merkava
07-18-2004, 12:30 AM
Hey no posts about making american planes better. Please, you might offend oleg.

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VOL_Hans
07-18-2004, 12:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by necrobaron:
Isn't that a P-40 in your sig, Hans? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif
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Yhea, only because thats our squad's sig...

I wanted a Messerschmitt but they didn't like that idea...

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p1ngu666
07-18-2004, 06:15 AM
hehe
maybe in PF eh gibb?
p38 L "late" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Aaron_GT
07-18-2004, 10:33 AM
When can we have it for the Spitfire? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LeadSpitter_
07-18-2004, 03:51 PM
I like the k14 site alot, I just dont get why its not on a p38 and p47 varient as well.

They programmed the buttons to cycle the site but we dont have it on all the aircraft that used it, it would be nice to seen it thrown on a p38 and p47 varient.

Another thing is they said they cant have a radiator forward and radiator cycle backwards key. But it seems they can add new buttons fine hook for the i16 and tb3 etc.

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Bearcat99
07-18-2004, 03:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MEGILE:
The P-47D-40-RA was the first P-47 to have the new K-14 gunsight installed at the factory. It was also the first Thunderbolt to carry the new tail warning radar equipment http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The K-14 was not too popular at first, due to its mounting in the cockpit. Mounted right on top of the instrument panel, the new gun sight extended back to within inches of the pilot's face. this blocked the pilot's vision and created a serious hazard if he was forced to belly land his fighter. This problem was solved by a sergeant in the 357th Fighter Group.

Sergeant Idalo E. Auguliaro solved the problem by cutting a hoe out of the glare shield and moving the sight forward. The group's pilots were pleased with this modification and sent the specifications to the Air Corps engineering center at Wright Field in Dayton, Ohio. The engineering center rejected the improvement and ordered the 357th to place the sight back in it's original position. The Yoxford Boys ignored the order, remounted the rest of their sights in the same fashion, and shared their discovery with the rest of the Mustang equipped groups., This resulted the the North American factory retooling their assembly line to mount the gun sight as the 357th had discovered. Sergeant Auguliaro received the Bronze Star for his efforts.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey thats from Bud Anderson's book "To Fly & Fight".. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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