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Bearcat99
05-03-2004, 12:15 PM
Im getting used to it.. I still need more practice before I take it to HL but.... I have one nagging problem. When I look right I see the seat back and the rear right window.. when I look over my left shoulder however I can only go so far then it just locks and goes back to front view. To look over my left shoulder I have to actually lean to the left instead of turning my head.. any suggestions?

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Bearcat99
05-03-2004, 12:15 PM
Im getting used to it.. I still need more practice before I take it to HL but.... I have one nagging problem. When I look right I see the seat back and the rear right window.. when I look over my left shoulder however I can only go so far then it just locks and goes back to front view. To look over my left shoulder I have to actually lean to the left instead of turning my head.. any suggestions?

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BaldieJr
05-03-2004, 12:24 PM
Make sure your dot is in the center of the black window (if forget the name of the tab in the Tir software).

You'll probably want to adjust the position of the tir device so that you are in the happy-zone (where it performs best... about 18 inches from the dot).

Also look for other light sources in that same window. You'll want to try to rid yourself of them to get best performance.

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Xnomad
05-03-2004, 02:23 PM
And if you haven't already use a reflective ball.

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WalterNowi
05-03-2004, 02:30 PM
I found that the closer you (track hat/dot) are to the TIR unit, the better the unit tracks the extreme left/right/up/down motion. Also, I usually run the motion test to make sure I am centered and have the full range of motion before using it in a sim.

I also set smooth to 120, although I am not quite sure what it does.

It took me a week or so to settle my stomach, after that I feel really comfortable. Hope this helps.

Nowi

nickdanger3
05-03-2004, 03:09 PM
Use the big stickers and experiment using the Natural Point software in the Motion tab. There you can see what the tracker sees and you can adjust your dot placement, sitting position, and tracker location. I had the exact same problem.

The reason the balls track so well is that there is always a reflective surface facing the unit.

I got around this by putting two stickers, overlapping, on either side of the hump for the bridge of the nose on a pair of lensless glasses.

PriK
05-03-2004, 03:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WalterNowi:
I found that the closer you (track hat/dot) are to the TIR unit, the better the unit tracks the extreme left/right/up/down motion. Also, I usually run the motion test to make sure I am centered and have the full range of motion before using it in a sim.

I also set smooth to 120, although I am not quite sure what it does.

It took me a week or so to settle my stomach, after that I feel really comfortable. Hope this helps.

Nowi<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Having smoothing that high I find detrimental to flying and acquiring targets quickly. Smoothing interpolates (read:guesses) in between each sample point as you move and adds more. Effectively you get less jumpiness as you move but the tradeoff is motion lag. The lag makes the cursor or view seem like it's trailing behind where you move and the higher the smoothing value the more laggy it will be.

Bring your smoothing down to about 60 for best effectiveness or experiment to find your comfort zone.

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tttiger
05-03-2004, 07:23 PM
LOL, as you can tell, everyone has their own solution and it's all different.

I found adjusting the width and height of the tracking area (one of the tabs) helped considerably.

To me, the most important thing is where you have your reflector. I use the microphone on my headset, which places it closer to the tracker. It also exaggerates my head movement a bit (when I turn freom side to side, it's moving faster than my face is). The front tip of a baseball cap bill will do the same, although wearing a cap can get kinda warm here in Hawaii http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

It's mostly tweaking and trial and error.

Once you get it set, you'll like it.

ttt

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FunYun46
05-03-2004, 09:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I found adjusting the width and height of the tracking area (one of the tabs) helped considerably.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just got my TrackIR2 today. I can't find anywhere to adjust the width and height. Anyone able to clarify this?

PriK
05-03-2004, 10:43 PM
You can't. I'm not sure what tttiger was smoking.

Be sure.

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FunYun46
05-03-2004, 10:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PriK:
You can't. I'm not sure what tttiger was smoking.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's what I thought. Thanks, and tttiger, pass that over here. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif