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09-17-2004, 07:59 PM
I was watching the old Wildcat movie and noticed that sparks flew up from the contact of the hok and deck!

09-17-2004, 07:59 PM
I was watching the old Wildcat movie and noticed that sparks flew up from the contact of the hok and deck!

09-17-2004, 10:12 PM
I see them too now that you found them.

Hmmm lets see, metal hook + wooden deck = sparks?

Seem fanciful but its ok with me. Would make sense on the Illustrious Carrier.

09-17-2004, 10:42 PM
decking is bolted down... there might be sparks.

"the real slim shady"

09-17-2004, 11:52 PM
It's Wood from the great Steel Tree of Northern California, the only ones that didnt burn down.
They worked a lot better than the alluminum trees found in florida


~Aaron White

09-18-2004, 12:09 AM
IIRC, even the wooden decks on the US carriers had metal fittings running across them to provide drainage and tie-down cleats. Another neat attention to detail item from the team.


"Speed is life." - Anon
"Sight is life. Speed is merely groovy." - "Junior"

09-18-2004, 02:25 AM
Gentlemen, Gentlemen its OK its no big deal.

Now if there were sparks and ricochets when you shoot up a delta wood plane (or a Mossie) then I would be upset.

Seriosusly, I don't think of myself as much of a whiner. (In fact I've been mulling over a NO WHINING contract that I was going to post, that we could all sign. Kind of like DARE.)

If I could make something better I would. PF is great. I LOVE it. I'm gonna get all misty unless I stop.

09-18-2004, 03:05 AM
There are tie-down rails spaced evenly with a certain amount of wood planks between them running port and starboard. Unless you're seeing constant "sparkage", you could get a good spark or two as the hook engages the arresting gear at touch down.

Blacksheep 1


09-18-2004, 03:34 AM
Every eighth "plank" is made of metal and has holes so that could be used to mount the straps that the crews tied down the planes with.

Edit: Didn't read BSS_Vidar's post http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif


09-19-2004, 02:49 AM
Would spark sliding on the cable also, unless every landing is straight and perfectly centered on it.

09-19-2004, 06:58 PM
Sorry, new guy here -- where is this F4F landing movie? I would love to watch it. I've poked around for a while but haven't found it.

09-19-2004, 10:14 PM
OK, I'm cool with having sparks, but what is with the dust from the wheels and the prop on takeoff again?

Vertically challenged since 1984.

II JG2_Oesau
09-20-2004, 12:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by prb17:
Sorry, new guy here -- where is this F4F landing movie? I would love to watch it. I've poked around for a while but haven't found it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

prb17 - check this thread out for the wildcat movie, it's cool


"There were still others who would fire a quick burst, then quickly break off; or watch somebody else hammer an airplane, then, when the German was already windmilling and going down, dive in and fire a quick burst, then try to share credit for the kill. I had a guy do that to me. Believe me, he never did it again."

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09-24-2004, 09:19 AM
is that all? lol.
Have any off u see the Lexington?
Have u notice the Canons on the deck?
U know that the big cannons were removed before the Pearl harbour atack?
Early 1941 the lexington had replaced the big cannons for more AA and more deck room.
I hope the correct it.
Oh and dont mix it up wiht the Essex class lexington , on the update pic u see the First lexinton and in 1942 it was sunk , in 1944 the CV16 Essex class Lexinton was going in to service.
S! I/KG26_Oranje

09-24-2004, 09:24 AM
Damn, no in cockpit shot of the carrier landing.

09-24-2004, 09:45 AM
That's odd, since this picture was taken on the 14th of October, 1941:


If I recall correctly, Lex had the guns removed on or after March 27th, 1942. I'd tell you for sure, but I lent The First Team to a friend.

Similarly (though on the West Coast), Sara had her guns replaced in 1942 as well.



09-24-2004, 10:36 AM
Guys we all know Oleg's a stickler for realism and detail. Now while this may be off topic, i'm sure that if the guys came off, they'll be gone in the game when the time comes.
as for the sparks...i didnt notice that

09-24-2004, 10:48 AM
your wrong on CV16 not entering service till 1944
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> After Caribbean shakedown and yard work at Boston, Lexington sailed for Pacific action via the Panama Canal, arriving Pearl Harbor 9 August 1943. She raided Tarawa in late September and Wake in October, then returned Pearl Harbor to prepare for the Gilbert Islands operation. From 19 to 24 November she made searches and flew sorties in the Marshalls, covering the landings in the Gilberts. Her aviators downed 29 enemy aircraft on 23 and 24 November <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
from the Naval historical centers website

09-26-2004, 02:55 PM
ok u say the date are not correct?
well i got it from a warships 1900 till 1978.
by Hugh Lyon and Captain J.E. Moore , R.N.
Crescent books , from Crown publishers , Inc One park Avenue , New York.
N.Y. 10016
ISBN 90 02 13900 2

It say on the Lexington (Ex-Constitution).
bild by Fore Rivers yard.
orderd in 1916 as battle cruser.
hull bild in 8 jan 1921.
work stopt on 8 Feb 1922.
orderd as aircraft carrier on 1 july 1922.
3 okt 1925 relize in water (sorry dont know how to say it in englische).
Operationel on 14 Dec 1927.
early 1941 203 mm (8 inch) canons removed and 4x 78mm (3 inch) canons placed.
1941 dec till may 1942 , patroulles in the Pacific ocean.
1942 20 feb try to atack Raboul.
1942 7/9 may battle in the coral sea.
sunk the carrier Shoho.
8 may dimige carrier Shokaku , damige by airplane`s from Shokaku and Zuikaku.
3 hours later fire starts , sunk by torpedo hunter USS Phelps (5 torpedo`s).

Now the Essex class Lexington.
yep Skull i type the year incorrect sorry.
CV16 USS Lexington operationel on 17 Feb 1943 till 1991.
And u cane still vitit her , she is now a museum.
Her is the link to it : http://www.usslexington.com/curatorad1.shtml.

Well thats all folks i got no more info and maby we find out waht is correct and not.

S! I/KG26_Oranje

09-26-2004, 08:06 PM

Doesn't appear to have the guns still installed but I'm no expert on the Lexington by any means.

This picture really sets the historical stage for me however: http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/020214.jpg