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MoistyFeels
01-28-2017, 11:03 PM
Perhaps I'm missing the proper counter to this play, but it seems that the grab and stab combo doing somewhere between 30-40 % of a conq/warlords health bar seems a little high considering how often guardbreaks happen in a fight. Why does this one attack do more than most two handed swings on heavier characters? Tour of Duty [Assassins] has really made it obvious which assassin are outshining the others. The Orichi and Berserkers are at least manageable but the Peacemaker's are always an uphill battle. Some enlightenment would be appreciated, thanks.

TobiasStormrage
01-28-2017, 11:15 PM
Here's my problem with the Peacekeeper's gut stab. When I do it, I am only able to get off one stab before getting pushed away. When someone else does it to me, I get shanked 3 times and watch as 3/4 of my health bleeds away. I know I'm not great at the guard break reaction yet, but again, that is not my issue here. What am I doing wrong as the Peacekeeper that I only get to stab one time?

Mytk2000
01-28-2017, 11:19 PM
What am I doing wrong as the Peacekeeper that I only get to stab one time?

The timing. You need to hit the second light attack when the first hits. Not too fast. Try it. Every stab is its own button press. You can get 1, 2 or 3 in, depending on your timing of the three.

MoistyFeels
01-28-2017, 11:27 PM
The reason is simple. Peacekeeper's main "thing" is that up close and personal gut stab.

This means two things.

1. It hurts a ****ton when a Peacekeeper gets you with it.
2. When fighting a Peacekeeper, be more aware for Guard Breaks and counter them.

You can counter a Guard Break by either attacking(cannot be grabbed during an attack) or press Guard Break the moment they grab you. You can practice this from Main Menu > How to Play > Advanced Practice

No offense to you as you legitimately asked nicely instead of crying about it but when I see people cry about this in forums, as a Peacekeeper I go "You KNOW I will grab and gut stab you, why are you not putting more focus into guard break counters then?"

I should have elaborated a bit more I suppose. I'm aware that counter breaks are the best way to not get prison shanked, but either everyone is still getting used to the counter window or it really is just that tiny. If the latter is true, that much health loss seems rather staggering in a 'easy to execute/hard to counter' scenario. For those that say its a hard move to pull off because of the light attack timing, that boils down to muscle memory whereas guardbreak counter is a reactionary move and I don't think the two are unambiguously comparable.
I think what I'm actually asking is: "Should an attack that will kill any class in three executions really be that easy to pull off?"

MoistyFeels
01-29-2017, 01:42 AM
While I agree with you on the stab being memory and counter being reaction, I think you can also block all of those stuns. I see bots block some of my stabs even after a grab. I do not know how it works and I would love know myself as well to protect my gut from fellow Peacekeepers in the warzone. There seems to be a mechanic for guarding against the stabs that we just don't know yet.

If there is anyone who knows how to guard against the gut stabs AFTER getting caught, please share your wisdom.

Edit:

Just had the pleasure of getting gut stabbed by an AI Peacekeeper. Can confirm. You CAN block the gut stabs by pressing PARRYING the pokes with right mouse button. I wonder if other yellow signed moves can be guarded against with parries? Like that lovely light light bash loop of Warden?

Oh what? I would not have guessed to try that, For Honor combat impressing me further! Time for me to get back out there and git gud.
PS: Appreciate the insight on the peacekeepers

Altair_Snake
01-29-2017, 12:18 PM
Can someone please confirm that the stabs can be parried?

No offense.

MoistyFeels
01-30-2017, 02:34 AM
Can someone please confirm that the stabs can be parried?

No offense.

After some fights yesterday I can confirm using guard in the right direction. What I can't confirm is whether guard has to be tapped or held (playing as conq) as I was playing domination in a non-controlled test environment. Ought to add that it isn't actually a parry and the only way the peacekeeper will attack less than three times is if they botch the timing on their end. Could still use confirmation on whether its a held or timed block.

Also, no offence taken.

Cast_1
01-30-2017, 01:54 PM
As a peacekeeper player, yes you can parry the stabs. Have happened to me in 1v1's and 2v2's several times. They usually only manage to block one though, so i think you actually have to activley parry each one. Also, if you think that is bad, just wait untill you meet a peacekeeper that has perfected the deflections, and cry. Even more bleeds that stack.

Altair_Snake
01-31-2017, 03:51 PM
Thanks to both of you guys. ^

Worlcianz
02-10-2017, 05:12 PM
Peacekeepers Guardbreak -> 3 Stabs, deals 1.6 Bar, which is more or less the same as a Warden heavy, and the attacks cannot be blocked, i believe it was said on a stream that it was a bug that sometimes happened.

Kroma-
02-10-2017, 05:16 PM
The block on stabs still happens. So sometimes you loose one of the 3 stabs.

cTrix
02-10-2017, 05:55 PM
Wait, can I get a step by step walkthrough of how you are supposed to parry the stabs after you fail to counter the guardbreak?
People have been using both block and parry, which is it? Do you press Heavy Attack or what?

FabulousManStar
02-11-2017, 04:15 AM
Yeah I'd really like to know how to stop the second to stabs. I keep hearing that it can be done, but no one says how. I've tried mashing lots of things, but I don't ever see an attack indicator so I'm not sure it can be blocked/parried.

HiTeHa
02-11-2017, 09:53 AM
Iam maybe not right but I think that dodging back will get you from 3x Stabs. Everytime when I failed to deflect GB, I try to dodge back and sometimes it work, sometimes not. At my opinion, if deflecting GB will not depend "on luck", lots of players will not have problems with this. Iam referring to this post: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1573937-Please-help-how-to-deflect-GuardBreak

cTrix
02-11-2017, 03:03 PM
That's not you doing anything, that's just the Peacekeeper messing up their combo. Don't post here saying that something works unless you can pull it off every single time against a bot or a player that knows to play peacekeeper.

Nexuss94
02-11-2017, 03:06 PM
it cant be blocked but as a PK you have to time it perfectly i normally get 2 out of 3 stabs (kinda annoying)

Waynedetta40k
02-11-2017, 03:08 PM
it cant be blocked but as a PK you have to time it perfectly i normally get 2 out of 3 stabs (kinda annoying)


Good thing you know what ur talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm4qlS8VBRQ&feature=youtu.be

Iam the PK who gets his butt kicked i do not how he does it but he did it constantly

TripSin.
02-11-2017, 05:28 PM
I think you might actually have to block left, which is ridiculous because you're getting hit on the right.

If you want to test it out, add me pls.

cTrix
02-12-2017, 10:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN1jRk0SJqY

It's clearly a bug that this works.