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Von_Zero
09-15-2004, 07:43 AM

Von_Zero
09-15-2004, 07:43 AM

BM357_TinMan
09-15-2004, 07:51 AM
Ventrilo Works better (a little), but the developers SUCK!!!!! (read the l/a concerning private users) so Teamspeak is the way to go.


- rw, is that still out there? We used to use R/W when we started two years ago....
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Bearcat99
09-15-2004, 07:53 AM
Ventrillo is nice but now they limit you to 8 users on the free one. RW is nice but the quality isnt that great.. but there was a time when it was THE comms software. TS is nice if you can get it going.

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BM357_TinMan
09-15-2004, 08:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Ventrillo is nice but now they limit you to 8 users on the free one. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Correct, but the problem is, they don't allow you to PURCHASE the registered one.

Sry to beat a dead horse, but they really ticked me off last march when they went to v2.2.x. It was very M$-ish. And the e-mail I got from them when I politely e-mailed begging to purchase a registered version was "less than polite"; was more like "bugger off" and deal with it....

I just want to make it apparent to everyone out there just was jerks the ventrilo developers are and if you are considering using a com program, to consider this as well.

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T_O_A_D
09-15-2004, 08:59 AM
TS is best all around comms easy to setup as a server, and client. If your having problems it genereally falls back on sound card, or the drivers for it.

My server has been up 7/24 for over two years now. Short an occasional power failure due to storms or I reboot it.

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Lupo_Argentato
09-15-2004, 09:52 AM
I use either TS or ventrilo clients and i never had problems (perhaps I'm just lucky). I also run a server for ventrilo (when i fly online with friends) and I find that it's quite easy to set up.
I can't say anything about TS server since i don't have any experience with it.
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BlackShrike
09-15-2004, 10:16 AM
aside from developer whines VENTRILO is far and away superior to teamspeak in quality.

ventrilo actually sounds like a phone line.

unless you intentionally degrade reception .

nothing compares to ventrilo for sound, or quality .

TS sounds like tin cans and a string in comparison and RW is like the old model T. it was fine in its day but you wouldnt want to commute in it anymore

BM357_TinMan
09-15-2004, 10:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BlackShrike:
aside from developer whines VENTRILO is far and away superior to teamspeak in quality.

ventrilo actually sounds like a phone line.

unless you intentionally degrade reception .

nothing compares to ventrilo for sound, or quality .

TS sounds like tin cans and a string in comparison and RW is like the old model T. it was fine in its day but you wouldnt want to commute in it anymore<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No disagreement, Ventrilo IS superior as far as sound quality (and a few other minor features), but you have to pay to use it, no exceptions (unless you only have 8 in your group).

*BUT* T/s isn't so bad, way better than RW and not quite as good as ventrilo.

btw-thanks for discounting geniune critism as a whine (ad hominum), if you can't dispute the validity of the claim, then attack the person making it....

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BlackShrike
09-15-2004, 10:26 AM
developers and opinions of them have zero to do with using ventrilo. thus its whining . ive never interfaced at all with them and ive gone thru 2 different companies plus free ventrilo.

and now im hearing whining about the whine

BM357_TinMan
09-15-2004, 10:31 AM
Actually, it does have a little do with CHOOSING one over the other, but it seems you might not be smart enough to see the connection, sry for you.

Since you seem to lack the intellegence to understand the connection, I don't feel the need to waste my time trying to draw you a map in crayola that you can follow.

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WOLFMondo
09-15-2004, 10:59 AM
99% of the games I play online I'll use voice comms with and 99% of the clans/communities I play games with use TS. I've never actually found a clan/community with a ventrillo server.

The quality on TS is pretty good and its easy to quick connect, you can even get plugins for vbulletin that will connect it for you as a guest with NO setup at the users end apart from a name.

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BlackShrike
09-15-2004, 03:10 PM
nice personal attack tinman. that violates your agreements for posting on this forum btw.

9th_Spitin
09-15-2004, 03:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BlackShrike:
nice personal attack tinman. that violates your agreements for posting on this forum btw.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ohhh no, here comes the forum police. BlackShrike, Tinman....lighten up.

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Von_Zero
09-15-2004, 03:36 PM
C'mon guys, dont get all fuzzy! lighten up http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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RxMan
09-15-2004, 03:57 PM
Ventrilo is the best, just don't use the new 2.2 unless you will never need more than 8 clients. I've run the 2.1 server for our squad for a while now, so I have the earlier 2.1 zipped files for backup, and new members. It is extremely stable, and has the best sound of any of the free ones out there.
The obsolete version 2.1 works very well, no limitations at all, and free.
The new 2.2 works well, the free version has an 8 connect limitation, the pay version does not.

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VMF223_Smitty
09-15-2004, 04:05 PM
I've used all three. Quality-wise, ventrilo is far and away he best. So what if it cost. It's worth it. I have never had any problems with tech support or having my questions politely answered.

John_Stag
09-15-2004, 04:11 PM
Our mob uses Ventrilo, but an obsolete version, and I'm sure we've had 8+ on at the same time. Some problems with those who have slower connections, but on the whole favourable.

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EFG_beber
09-15-2004, 04:52 PM
I belive ventrilo use higher bandwidth than TS.

Capt.LoneRanger
09-15-2004, 05:22 PM
Ventrilo is the best. It has the best quality, by far, is the least vulnerable to complex sound cards (a big problem with TS2) and it has a bunch of options in an easy and very simple menu. Very good.

Yes, the you have to pay for the latest version of Ventrilo, but come on, be honest and fair. RW is even more expensive and the registred version is still full of spyware.

And TS2? I fussed with it for 2 days and couldn't get rid of mike probs and the often reported echoes. And then, trying to open a server I found out, that my server was displayed in a server-browser-list, together with IP and all. Dunno if you can switch this off, but after 2 days I was simply fed up with it.

So, as with RW, who the hell uses the new ventrilo-version anyway!? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

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VFS-22_SPaRX
09-15-2004, 06:40 PM
Just an FYI guys. Read Flagships L/A very carefully. There are direct quotes:

"9. UPDATES AND NEW VERSIONS. Flagship may, at its discretion,
make updates or new versions of the Software available to you
under such terms and conditions as may be required by Flagship.
In the event that any such updates or new versions of the
Software are made available to you, you agree to update, delete
from your computers and/or otherwise discontinue use of previous
versions of the Software. Unless otherwise agreed to in writing,
this Agreement shall apply to any updated or new version of the
Software issued by Flagship."

This means that you are not allowed to run a Pre-2.2 server. Infact having a copy of any Pre-2.2 version is a direct violation of his L/A.

"4.3.1 Protection of the Software. The Software and all
copies of it, regardless of the form or media in which the
original or copies may exist, are the sole and exclusive
property of Flagship. By accepting this license, you agree
that the Software, including the source and object codes,
logic and structure, constitute valuable trade secrets of
Flagship. Except as expressly permitted herein, you agree
not to disclose, post, transfer, transmit, permit
downloading or copying or otherwise make available any part
of the Software to any third party on any basis."

and

"4.1.5 You shall not rent, lease, sublicense, lend, allow
access to, or transfer the Software to any other party, by
operation of law or otherwise except as specifically
permitted in this Agreement."

These two statments mean that you are not allowed to transfer any versions of his software period. So making availible previous versions of his client to clanmates or hosting the files on a website is again a direct violation of his agreement.


Flagship has been very clear that he will enforce his L/A at all costs. I know alot of players here post ips and such in the forums for others to see to join their servers. Flagship knows of these forums and i am sure if he sees any info in here that is a violation of his L/A, you will get notified. This is exactly why i changed WarClouds Voice Comms to Teamspeak. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. But just want you all to know what you are getting into.

S~

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T_O_A_D
09-15-2004, 06:50 PM
That was rude and against the rules.
We see it again or simuliar I'll have your vacation arranged.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BM357_TinMan:
Actually, it does have a little do with CHOOSING one over the other, but it seems you might not be smart enough to see the connection, sry for you.

Since you seem to lack the intellegence to understand the connection, I don't feel the need to waste my time trying to draw you a map in crayola that you can follow.

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WUAF_Badsight
09-15-2004, 11:43 PM
so whats the deal with ventrillo now ?

can you only get the "full" version by renting a ventrillo serveer now ?

is this "full" version ventrillo only available to people that the Ventrillo people like ?

is it not possible now to buy this "full" version for yourself ? you now have to rent ventrillo from a Ventrillo server host & its no longer possible to get the full ventrillo version for yourself ?

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RedDeth
09-16-2004, 01:24 AM
AFJ TEAM SERVER has a paid ventrilo server now. i.p. is "dream.pure-voice.net" port number is "3208" and pass is "afj" its a public server for pilots flying the AFJ server. it hosts 25. we have another ventrilo server as overflow

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BM357_TinMan
09-16-2004, 05:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by T_O_A_D:
That was rude and against the rules.
We see it again or simuliar I'll have your vacation arranged.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BM357_TinMan:
Actually, it does have a little do with CHOOSING one over the other, but it seems <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe so, Toad, but I believe I was called a whinner and insulted first thank you

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BM357_TinMan
09-16-2004, 06:03 AM
rgr Badsight

That is the deal now

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Tully__
09-16-2004, 06:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EFG_beber:
I belive ventrilo use higher bandwidth than TS.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Like TS, Ventrilo can be set up for various bandwidths by changing the codec and codec bandwidth settings.

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